Now that's what I call a January window

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So we did a Maguire with Bruno. A player available for less money last summer (as was Maguire when Jose wanted him). We then proceeded to spend the whole window negotiating, only to end up paying the set price at the end of the window. With Maguire, we could have had him bed in much sooner, with Bruno we could have had him playing for all of January.

We tried to tempt Jude Bellingham to join from Birmingham. Rumoured to have offered 30m for the 16 year old. He didn’t fancy it.

We made an offer for Josh King - Bournemouth fighting relegation - how likely was it that they’d want to sell relatively cheap with no time to replace him?

Ole personally went to speak with Haaland, thinking he’d join us. Goes to Dortmund and scores loads of goals. Granted, if rumours of the deal are to be believed, the player is almost being rented from Raiola and his dad. If Ole tried to get around Raiola, that’s a plus.

We were rumoured to have scoped out a loan move for 20 year old Argentine striker Adolfo Gaich, who has a tiny €13.5m release clause.

Vague rumours around Grealish, Maddison, Cavani, Rakitic.

And we saw Rojo and Young leave, despite Ole saying he wanted to retain the players at the club as the squad was so stretched.

It is clear that our transfer “committee” is atrocious. It is also clear that we do not have a long-term approach in place, where we know our targets. A long-term plan includes more then 2-3 players that are unattainable in January because they are playing in the CL. This “long-termism” seems to be a relatively empty buzzword to buy more time for a club that has little ambition, and perhaps, not the money it once did, having squandered hundreds of millions on inflated fees, wages and managerial sackings.

That being said, we needed a striker and got one in. Mainly it’s good so we won’t destroy Martial and Greenwood.

And we needed a midfielder so we won’t play Matic and Fred until they get even too injured for Ole to play them.

I don’t mind us not spending huge sums in January, but I find it unacceptable that a club of this stature doesn’t seem prepared in the slightest.

I’d give this window a 5/10 given our needs, but I was expecting 0/10.
Yawn
 

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Bruno in our starting line up and Ighalo off the bench is a boost that no other club in the league has had. If we can get Pogba and McT back soon, with Rashford a little later, I am quite confident of fourth to be honest. Chelsea and Spurs are even worse than we are.
 

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This transfer window has demonstrated a lot. Compared to other teams I say we did B+. We are still obviously 3 starters away from a good squad. But not bad.
 

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Quite excited by the Ighalo loan, He was really good in the PL and I think he has the capability to take the main striker spot from Martial.
 

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Quite excited by the Ighalo loan, He was really good in the PL and I think he has the capability to take the main striker spot from Martial.
I personally think Ole will be hoping Ighalo hits a scoring streak and move Martial to the left. Having Martial and Rashford scoring goals for the first half of the season was enough to get us into 5th in the table, we need to replace Rashford's goals in addition to what Bruno will add for any chance at 4th.
 

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I personally think Ole will be hoping Ighalo hits a scoring streak and move Martial to the left. Having Martial and Rashford scoring goals for the first half of the season was enough to get us into 5th in the table, we need to replace Rashford's goals in addition to what Bruno will add for any chance at 4th.
Good point. Don't know what form Ighalo is in now but if he's as good as he was in Watford he'll surprise a lot of fans.
 

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Wonder if we would have gone for Ibra if he was still available?
I'm gonna have to say that why didn't we go for him when he offered himself to us? This is why we must act faster and I really hope Woodward and the guys learn from these mistakes because I guarantee you they do not want the stick that they're recieivng again. I feel as if the club is taking a positive turn to be honest.
 

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Bringing in Bruno was good but I feel it should have been done so that in was in place for January 1st. We lost four games this month and went into it knowing we had Injury issues but decided to feck around with the Bruno deal all month. More incompetency.

We did need a striker but again Ighalo really? We couldn’t find a young versatile forward to bring in? There’s one heading to West Ham now and another at Brentford. Again what are our scouts doing ? Why do they seemingly have no idea about these players? Why can’t they find anything not completely obvious ?
 

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In a perfect world we would have got Haaland, without any shady clauses, and Bruno, but the world is not perfect.

This window show that at least we are trying to compete and we are not giving up just yet. Top 4, the FA-cup and Europa league still up for grabs. There is alot of football this season yet to be played so in a sense I’m happy for the effort.

Surely the Bruno transfer could have been done a bit earlier and that might have cost us a point or two, but no reason to spill your beans anymore about that. It is what it is.

Ighalo is clearly a panic buy because he has also been available for a while since the league is on a winter break in Koronaland. I’m confident we were counting on Haaland to join and since that went south we had really no ready made plan for a second option. I’m not going judge this transfer just yet, it’s low risk and medium/high reward kind of transfer. We needed a body upfront and I’m going to let him play some games before I judge. I’m sure the caf we be after him after the first bad touch he makes.

Patience is required once again.
 

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All signals point to us not wanting those kind of egos in the team any more.
What type of ego's? Model professionals? Legendary players? Leaders? Someone who would inspire even Pogba to get his shit together for us for the 2nd half of the season?
Right... Let's get one thing straight. It's fecking Zlatan Ibrahimovic, he's one of the most professional, determined and inspirational players over the past 20 years. Not someone like Balotelli who is a distraction.
 

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I think we all basically agree the squad should look like this, if Pogba is indeed leaving.

Forward - Martial, #9
Wingers - Rashford, RW, James, Greenwood
AM/CM - Bruno, #10, Fred
CM/DM - DM, McTominay, Matic
FB/WB - AWB, LB, Williams, Shaw, Dalot
CB - Maguire, LCB, Lindelof, Tuanzebe
GK - De Gea, Romero

That's 9 defenders, 6 midfielders, 4 wingers and 2 strikers and then probably one of Pereira/Gomes/Chong should be kept around as depth. Rashford and Greenwood can be the #3 striker just fine.

So, I would say we've gone from 6 holes in the squad (since Pogba is around for now and can be that #10) down to 5. And we've papered over the hole at the 9 with Ighalo, who was great for one prem season and terrible the next, so at the risk of being reductive has a 50/50 shot at being decent in the role for the next few months. That's pretty good for the winter. 6 holes down to 5 and a schrodinger's cat chance of 4. Can even be okay with just giving Williams a shot at the LB job for the next few months as he's been quite good.

We did badly need a RW solution, long-term or short, especially with Rashford hurt. And

In the summer, we can sell Smalling, Jones and Lingard which should generate enough money for signing one proper DM or LB. Could even sell Shaw since buying an LB and making Williams and Dalot the backup fullbacks, along with buying a proper left-sided CB to start next to Maguire and also be able to play LCB when we got to 3 at the back would give us decent coverage, though you'd have to feel good about Laird or someone playing 5-10 times.
 

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I mean, I love this daft idea people have that Maguire was available the Summer after the World Cup (he wasn't and didn't push for a move), and that somehow he was cheaper (he wasn't).

Bruno was plenty more expensive in the Summer by the way, we called their bluff.
I actually believe Castles (who was pretty much leading this story, despite the general ridicule he gets) who claims Spurs had negotiated a deal in summer that was lower than what we are forking out now. Which is not to say that I think he's overpriced, just that we wasted time again when we could have lined him up for the start of the window. With regards to Maguire, the price rumoured when Jose wanted him was 70m.

Don't want to quote your whole post @Bastian but Sporting wanted €80-90m in summer, so we've actually paid less.

Regarding Bellingham, he wasn't going to come straight into the side and we were going to loan him back for 18 months, this deal can still be completed outside of the transfer window and may still be done.

I don't for a minute believe the Gaich rumours.
I'm not sure we would have forked out 30m for him and not wanted him in asap, even though Birmingham wanted him to stay on loan. Hopefully we'll come back in the summer.

I was expecting something even just vaguely accurate when someone says they'll do a 'roundup' of events
It's not like I posted a thread on it. Feel free to address inaccuracies. I caveat plenty with "rumours".

And a yawn to you too buddy. Sleep well.
 

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What type of ego's? Model professionals? Legendary players? Leaders? Someone who would inspire even Pogba to get his shit together for us for the 2nd half of the season?
Right... Let's get one thing straight. It's fecking Zlatan Ibrahimovic, he's one of the most professional, determined and inspirational players over the past 20 years. Not someone like Balotelli who is a distraction.
And he comes with an ego. I loved the guy and he was what we needed when we had him. But it's no shock to anyone paying attention that we were not going to get him again this time around.
 

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Chelsea didn't sign anyone right? Pretty good window for us in the end.
 

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All signals point to us not wanting those kind of egos in the team any more.
You mean 100% professionals? Don't mistake his antics in front of the camera with his dedication in training and on the pitch.
 

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I actually believe Castles (who was pretty much leading this story, despite the general ridicule he gets) who claims Spurs had negotiated a deal in summer that was lower than what we are forking out now. Which is not to say that I think he's overpriced, just that we wasted time again when we could have lined him up for the start of the window. With regards to Maguire, the price rumoured when Jose wanted him was 70m.



I'm not sure we would have forked out 30m for him and not wanted him in asap, even though Birmingham wanted him to stay on loan. Hopefully we'll come back in the summer.



It's not like I posted a thread on it. Feel free to address inaccuracies. I caveat plenty with "rumours".



And a yawn to you too buddy. Sleep well.
If Spurs negotiated a deal for less than this in the Summer, why didn’t they buy him?
 

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If Spurs negotiated a deal for less than this in the Summer, why didn’t they buy him?
If rumours are to be believed, because they were working concurrently on a few deals and he wasn't a priority. They did get Ndombele and Lo Celso. Maybe Eriksen's future was part of the equation (similar to us and Pogba perhaps).
 

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I've heavily criticized the Ed and the board for a long time and will continue to do so.

But credit where it's due: this is was a very good January window. It shouldn't have been necessary in the first place, but it's a good response nonetheless.
 

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I actually believe Castles (who was pretty much leading this story, despite the general ridicule he gets) who claims Spurs had negotiated a deal in summer that was lower than what we are forking out now. Which is not to say that I think he's overpriced, just that we wasted time again when we could have lined him up for the start of the window. With regards to Maguire, the price rumoured when Jose wanted him was 70m.
Sporting president said they rejected Spurs bid

"It was 'impossible' to retain Bruno Fernandes, but we did it. We prepared for his sale by putting a fair price on him, and we had bids, but the only serious offer was from Tottenham and that was €45 million (£40 million/$50 million) plus another €20m in bonuses for winning the Premier League and the Champions League. Those are difficult objectives, so we chose not to accept.
 

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It was a decent window, signed Bruno Fernandes who should be huge improvement on what we have in that position. Didn't expect to sign Ighalo but the fact that we at least used loan option is good to see, for some reason we rarely use loan options.
 

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I'm not sure we would have forked out 30m for him and not wanted him in asap, even though Birmingham wanted him to stay on loan. Hopefully we'll come back in the summer.
It wasn't going to be £30m upfront but I think itll be £15-20m plus £10-15m in bonuses. We'll definitely keep negotiating for him, in summer he only had one year left on his deal I think.
 

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We did need a striker but again Ighalo really? We couldn’t find a young versatile forward to bring in? There’s one heading to West Ham now and another at Brentford. Again what are our scouts doing ? Why do they seemingly have no idea about these players? Why can’t they find anything not completely obvious ?
Ighalo is obviously a stop gap to get us to the summer. I am sure if we could get our summer targets this month we would have done. No offence to the young lad from Hull but I would hope we have a better long term target than that.

Not replacing Lukaku in the summer was a complete balls up and the board/Ole have been fairly criticised for that now Rashford is injured. They have done reasonably well in January.
 

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It wasn't going to be £30m upfront but I think itll be £15-20m plus £10-15m in bonuses. We'll definitely keep negotiating for him, in summer he only had one year left on his deal I think.
I hope so. Hopefully our shown desire to get him will help us beat competition in the summer.
 

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Decent window, no doubt. Getting Fernandes for under 50m was good, hope he ends up costing more. And Ighalo, experienced PL striker who’s a United fan on loan also good.
Still hope we keep up the anti glazer protests.
 

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Very happy with what United have achieved in this window signed a world class midfield player and at short notice got a striker covering for the injured Rashford. Good moves and they should be applauded. Hopefully get Pogba playing after the break and then MCT and give it a good go in the run in.
 

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Roundup:

So we did a Maguire with Bruno. A player available for less money last summer (as was Maguire when Jose wanted him). We then proceeded to spend the whole window negotiating, only to end up paying the set price at the end of the window. With Maguire, we could have had him bed in much sooner, with Bruno we could have had him playing for all of January.

We tried to tempt Jude Bellingham to join from Birmingham. Rumoured to have offered 30m for the 16 year old. He didn’t fancy it.

We made an offer for Josh King - Bournemouth fighting relegation - how likely was it that they’d want to sell relatively cheap with no time to replace him?

Ole personally went to speak with Haaland, thinking he’d join us. Goes to Dortmund and scores loads of goals. Granted, if rumours of the deal are to be believed, the player is almost being rented from Raiola and his dad. If Ole tried to get around Raiola, that’s a plus.

We were rumoured to have scoped out a loan move for 20 year old Argentine striker Adolfo Gaich, who has a tiny €13.5m release clause.

Vague rumours around Grealish, Maddison, Cavani, Rakitic.

And we saw Rojo and Young leave, despite Ole saying he wanted to retain the players at the club as the squad was so stretched.

It is clear that our transfer “committee” is atrocious. It is also clear that we do not have a long-term approach in place, where we know our targets. A long-term plan includes more then 2-3 players that are unattainable in January because they are playing in the CL. This “long-termism” seems to be a relatively empty buzzword to buy more time for a club that has little ambition, and perhaps, not the money it once did, having squandered hundreds of millions on inflated fees, wages and managerial sackings.

That being said, we needed a striker and got one in. Mainly it’s good so we won’t destroy Martial and Greenwood.

And we needed a midfielder so we won’t play Matic and Fred until they get even too injured for Ole to play them.

I don’t mind us not spending huge sums in January, but I find it unacceptable that a club of this stature doesn’t seem prepared in the slightest.

I’d give this window a 5/10 given our needs, but I was expecting 0/10.
Sums up my feeling pretty well. Great post. However we can't do anything currently so let's just hope everything will turn out well.
 

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Ighalo is obviously a stop gap to get us to the summer. I am sure if we could get our summer targets this month we would have done. No offence to the young lad from Hull but I would hope we have a better long term target than that.

Not replacing Lukaku in the summer was a complete balls up and the board/Ole have been fairly criticised for that now Rashford is injured. They have done reasonably well in January.
You do yourself an injustice, I rated that opinion.
 

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With both Haaland & Bellingham either choosing other clubs or to keep their options open & stay in the second tier this transfer window surely raises questions about the allure for ‘top talent’; we’ve signed a young keeper if I’m not mistaken but 2 multi million pound teenagers came to the conclusion we aren’t the right place for their development/long term futures & that worries me.
 

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Decent transfer window I guess, but as usal it appears the Man Utd equivalent of Dumb and dumber seem to be able to work seriously on one transfer at a time. They managed to stuff up the recruitment of the Celtic physio as they couldnt be bothered to keep in contact. Probably talking to someone about Bruno and couldn't manage 2 conversations at once.

This is something that needs to be looked at, actually be able to do multiple negotiations without messing up. This summer window needs to be worked on now, and like our European rivals completed as soon as the window allows to get players in training and on tour.
 

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Someone tell Ole we have got another striker as it seems he thought it was going to be Alexis next year.