Could they void the PL due to the Coronavirus? | No | Resuming June 17th

[Djemba-Djemba]

That analogy doesn't work. A more realistic analogy would be if someone offered you a million pounds for your car but they were 20p short would you let them have it?

Liverpool will win the league this season, one way or the other.

If I were United fans I'd be more worried about the league stopping just when you've hit form. By the time it restarts, the likes of Spurs will have their attackers back.

This Liverpool shouldn't be given the league title despite being 25 points clear with 10 games to go is small time behavior. Is that really where United are at now?

Liverpool fan outrage to the season being suspended will keep my spirits up throughout this Coronavirus crisis I think.

What on earth are you expecting on a Utd forum?

You're saying if it was the other way round Liverpool fans would be saying well done Utd?

 

[Utd heap]

That analogy doesn't work. A more realistic analogy would be if someone offered you a million pounds for your car but they were 20p short would you let them have it?

Liverpool will win the league this season, one way or the other.

If I were United fans I'd be more worried about the league stopping just when you've hit form. By the time it restarts, the likes of Spurs will have their attackers back.

This Liverpool shouldn't be given the league title despite being 25 points clear with 10 games to go is small time behavior. Is that really where United are at now?

Your situation is way more amusing mate.

Us being half decent is a bonus tbh.

 

[dwd]

That analogy doesn't work. A more realistic analogy would be if someone offered you a million pounds for your car but they were 20p short would you let them have it?

Liverpool will win the league this season, one way or the other.

If I were United fans I'd be more worried about the league stopping just when you've hit form. By the time it restarts, the likes of Spurs will have their attackers back.

This Liverpool shouldn't be given the league title despite being 25 points clear with 10 games to go is small time behavior. Is that really where United are at now?

You haven’t won the league yet. Hope that helps.
And by the way, the price is still 1 million.

 

[clarkydaz]

That analogy doesn't work. A more realistic analogy would be if someone offered you a million pounds for your car but they were 20p short would you let them have it?

Liverpool will win the league this season, one way or the other.

If I were United fans I'd be more worried about the league stopping just when you've hit form. By the time it restarts, the likes of Spurs will have their attackers back.

This Liverpool shouldn't be given the league title despite being 25 points clear with 10 games to go is small time behavior. Is that really where United are at now?

It would simply be the biggest laugh of all time, not logic driven.

 

[Pink Moon]

Not voiding in the face of growing concern and medical and governmental advice and the example set by other governing sporting bodies around the globe would be just as much of a "bullshit response", the only difference being that that would be one being likely driven by those with a different, although no less self-interested, agenda to the teams you name; a team like Liverpool, for example.

Of course the Villa fan is of the opinion that the season should be voided and the last 7 months rendered meaningless. I'm stunned.

I wonder if the same people clamouring for the void also think if a team is 4-0 up with 5 minutes to go and the game is abandoned that it should be replayed from scratch at a later date. Because that's totally logical and fair.

 

[UncleBob]

That analogy doesn't work. A more realistic analogy would be if someone offered you a million pounds for your car but they were 20p short would you let them have it?

Liverpool will win the league this season, one way or the other.

If I were United fans I'd be more worried about the league stopping just when you've hit form. By the time it restarts, the likes of Spurs will have their attackers back.

This Liverpool shouldn't be given the league title despite being 25 points clear with 10 games to go is small time behavior. Is that really where United are at now?

One way or the other.

Well, you either win it or you don't.

If they find a suitable solution that allows the season to be concluded, then you'll obviously win it. If not, season must be concluded as null and voided and that's all of us fecked.

 

[Pink Moon]

Great, and ?

And my point was that there's agendas at play here, you disputed that, I'm showing you evidence to the contrary and you're now asking "and what?".

 

[dwd]

One way or the other.

Well, you either win it or you don't.

If they find a suitable solution that allows the season to be concluded, then you'll obviously win it. If not, season must be concluded as null and voided and that's all of us fecked.

Yep, got no problem winning IF ALL fixtures for EVERYONE are concluded. Is that really small time? I mean that is the rules after all.

 

[Megadrive Man]

Liverpool fan outrage to the season being suspended will keep my spirits up throughout this Coronavirus crisis I think.

What on earth are you expecting on a Utd forum?

You're saying if it was the other way round Liverpool fans would be saying well done Utd?

I'm not outraged at the season being suspended. The whole country should be made to self isolate for the foreseeable future in my opinion.

I don't know, I always thought United fans had a bit more respect, sense and integrity than say the majority of City or Everton fans. That's why I joined here. I was a lurker for many years before.

If any team were 25 points clear with ten games to go and the only team that could catch them hadn't won more than 4 league games in a row all season I'd say that they obviously deserve to win the league.

 

[stevoc]

Luckily Liverpool are so far ahead it will be impossible for anyone to ever suggest Liverpool haven't won the league this year. If it were closer then you could make another argument, but Liverpool have won the 19/20 Premier League, even if it gets postponed or voided. Nobody will ever be able to change the way the current table looks.

If the season becomes null and void and its as if it never took place then, what league table?

If it does get cancelled then we all know Liverpool most likely would have won it had it not and they deserve it, but i guess we'd never know for sure. Some doubt will always remain.

Maybe the PL could award a lovely wooden and brass plaque to commemorate the occasion. Liverpool ''The team who most likely would have been champions 19/20 if the season hadn't been cancelled.''

Open top bus tour?

 

[dwd]

I'm not outraged at the season being suspended. The whole country should be made to self isolate for the foreseeable future in my opinion.

I don't know, I always thought United fans had a bit more respect, sense and integrity than say the majority of City or Everton fans. That's why I joined here. I was a lurker for many years before.

If any team were 25 points clear with ten games to go and the only team that could catch them hadn't won more than 4 league games in a row all season I'd say that they obviously deserve to win the league.

You haven’t won the league.

 

[Djemba-Djemba]

I'm not outraged at the season being suspended. The whole country should be made to self isolate for the foreseeable future in my opinion.

I don't know, I always thought United fans had a bit more respect, sense and integrity than say the majority of City or Everton fans. That's why I joined here. I was a lurker for many years before.

If any team were 25 points clear with ten games to go and the only team that could catch them hadn't won more than 4 league games in a row all season I'd say that they obviously deserve to win the league.

Liverpool fans were cheering Chelsea goals 10 years ago at Anfield , with one of them coming from a ludicrous Gerrard backpass, because it stopped us winning the title, so let's not act like Liverpool fans wouldn't be doing the exact same thing Utd fans are now doing.

You've had a very impressive League campaign and under normal circumstances you'd be strolling to the title but if the season is suspended and you don't get the title then that's it. You're not champions, thems the rules.

Maybe you can be given an interim PL trophy like they do in UFC sometimes? Made out of cardboard or something?

 

[clarkydaz]

If the season becomes null and void and its as if it never took place then, what league table?

Maybe the PL could award a lovely wooden and brass plaque to commemorate the occasion. Liverpool ''The team who most likely would have been champions 19/20 if the season hadn't been cancelled.''

would be the first team to achieve that to be honest, no mean feat

 

[esmufc07]

So at the moment is the most likely thing for Euro 2020 to be pushed back a year and League Seasons/EL/CL to be finished by end of June if possible?

Doubt the PL will void the league at this stage.

 

[Utd heap]

So at the moment is the most likely thing for Euro 2020 to be pushed back a year and League Seasons/EL/CL to be finished by end of June if possible?

Doubt the PL will void the league at this stage.

Yep, sadly.

 

[Djemba-Djemba]

So at the moment is the most likely thing for Euro 2020 to be pushed back a year and League Seasons/EL/CL to be finished by end of June if possible?

Doubt the PL will void the league at this stage.

Please don't kill our dream just yet.

 

[christy87]

So at the moment is the most likely thing for Euro 2020 to be pushed back a year and League Seasons/EL/CL to be finished by end of June if possible?

Doubt the PL will void the league at this stage.

Its almost better that way they won't win it now they will default it, with an asterisk forever next to there title

 

[harrington]

Of course the Villa fan is of the opinion that the season should be voided and the last 7 months rendered meaningless. I'm stunned.

If, purely by dint of Villa being relegated, those most at risk of dying from the coronavirus could be granted a fair, fighting chance of coming through the current health scare alive, I'd be fine with seeing them go down. That's just a fantasy world solution though, unfortunately. What we need to do at the moment is to find ways of helping to slow down the spread of COV-ID 19.

 

[UncleBob]

And my point was that there's agendas at play here, you disputed that, I'm showing you evidence to the contrary and you're now asking "and what?".

It's random people taking the piss out of the situation. Surely it can't be that complicated to seperate that from the common sense.

As i've said all along, the leaders in the UK are thick as feck and the decision to stick to the fixture list given the situation in most countries in Europe is baffling, it's piss funny that on the front page of Skysports we've gone from all fixtures being played as normal to all fixtures being played as normal next to an article about Arteta contracting covid-19 and their match being cancelled to Arteta contracting covid-19 and emergency fixture meetings to be held, all in the space in less than half a day.

It's been a disaster waiting to happen, and once it hits it will hit hard. Look at Norway and how quickly things have evolved, from no issues whatsoever to full disaster mode.

No one is going to accept not finishing the season, but allowing Liverpool to be crowned champions while the rest of the teams are fecked. Ah the table will stand as it is now, good one, the CL spots up for grabs, the relegation battle, everything determined by a random fixture list.

Things aren't going to be better in a week from now, or two weeks for that matter.

The instant decision should've been to keep the fixture list but no fans, now that clubs can't be involved for minimum 2 weeks due to covid-19 the only decision they can make is to follow Spain by postponding everything until disaster is avoided, if that takes too long then the season needs to be null and voided and everyone is shafted.

 

[Spiersey]

Why do the teams in the lower division get rewarded for a season that seemingly never happened but the teams in the top flight don't? No matter what happens there's gonna be some unhappy campers.

Assuming the situation gets serious enough that this type of action is required, I doubt much teams will kick up a big fuss over a season being annulled. Will be much more important things for everyone to worry about. In England it would make sense to implement similar but give Liverpool the title (much funnier if they didn’t get it though).

 

[UncleBob]

So at the moment is the most likely thing for Euro 2020 to be pushed back a year and League Seasons/EL/CL to be finished by end of June if possible?

Doubt the PL will void the league at this stage.

If possible is a big if....

 

[Pogue Mahone]

So at the moment is the most likely thing for Euro 2020 to be pushed back a year and League Seasons/EL/CL to be finished by end of June if possible?

Doubt the PL will void the league at this stage.

Possible but very unlikely. No vaccine, no new treatments any time soon. Sadly, normality is many months away. I’m just hoping we’re back on an even keel by the start of next season.

 

[UncleBob]

Assuming the situation gets serious enough that this type of action is required, I doubt much teams will kick up a big fuss over a season being annulled. Will be much more important things for everyone to worry about. In England it would make sense to implement similar but give Liverpool the title (much funnier if they didn’t get it though).

It doesn't. Leicester aren't performing well and are only 8 points ahead of United, Chelsea are only 3 points ahead and have to play City, Liverpool and Wolves.

 

[Megadrive Man]

Liverpool fans were cheering Chelsea goals 10 years ago at Anfield , with one of them coming from a ludicrous Gerrard backpass, because it stopped us winning the title, so let's not act like Liverpool fans wouldn't be doing the exact same thing Utd fans are now doing.

You've had a very impressive League campaign and under normal circumstances you'd be strolling to the title but if the season is suspended and you don't get the title then that's it. You're not champions, thems the rules.

Maybe you can be given an interim PL trophy like they do in UFC sometimes? Made out of cardboard or something?

Yes I never really understood that myself. I don't think the majority of Liverpool fans were cheering on Chelsea in that game. Most Liverpool fans respect United more than Chelsea.

But the point is Liverpool are strolling to the title! If we were 10 points or even less clear then yes fine, its a long way to go etc.

In the event of the season being cancelled the table will still show Liverpool being 25 points clear. It would be incredibly damaging to the brand of the Premier League to deny Liverpool the league now.

 

[RedDevilRoshi]

Luckily Liverpool are so far ahead it will be impossible for anyone to ever suggest Liverpool haven't won the league this year. If it were closer then you could make another argument, but Liverpool have won the 19/20 Premier League, even if it gets postponed or voided. Nobody will ever be able to change the way the current table looks.

Shows you what 30 years of hurt can do.


You haven’t won anything yet. You are only declared champions when it is mathematically impossible for any other team to overtake you. It’s like saying you won the Euro Millions as you guessed all the correct 7 numbers but didn’t buy a ticket with those numbers on it.

 

[UncleBob]

Yes I never really understood that myself. I don't think the majority of Liverpool fans were cheering on Chelsea in that game. Most Liverpool fans respect United more than Chelsea.

But the point is Liverpool are strolling to the title! If we were 10 points or even less clear then yes fine, its a long way to go etc.

In the event of the season being cancelled the table will still show Liverpool being 25 points clear. It would be incredibly damaging to the brand of the Premier League to deny Liverpool the league now.

No.

It wouldn't be denying Liverpool the title, it'd be null and voiding the season for everyone due to extreme circumstances.

"Ah, you were so far ahead we'll give you the title, but we'll feck all the rest of the teams because if we feck Liverpool as well its going to be incredibly damaging to the brand".

 

[EngimaMK]

Oh, come on. This is embarrassing. If rather see the season finish behind closed door than it be cancelled. We're 80 or so % through. Gotta finish it delayed or without fans.

If Liverpool win, so be it but I couldn't let my ocd have a season be unfinished.

 

[Zlatan 7]

Yes I never really understood that myself. I don't think the majority of Liverpool fans were cheering on Chelsea in that game. Most Liverpool fans respect United more than Chelsea.

But the point is Liverpool are strolling to the title! If we were 10 points or even less clear then yes fine, its a long way to go etc.

In the event of the season being cancelled the table will still show Liverpool being 25 points clear. It would be incredibly damaging to the brand of the Premier League to deny Liverpool the league now.

It will show you may have won the league but it wasn’t mathematically settled. So no league win sorry

 

[VP89]

Possible but very unlikely. No vaccine, no new treatments any time soon. Sadly, normality is many months away. I’m just hoping we’re back on an even keel by the start of next season.

A few doctors have been saying there's a fair chance the virus won't spread as much in warmer weather. Perhaps it can phase out naturally?

 

[Needham]

Thinking about Arteta, what if Hodgson caught the virus? He's in the age group that is most vulnerable, it would be a tragedy if something happened to him or even any other older manager because the league continued unnecessarily.

Hodgson will be fine. Palace basically hired him because of his strong defensive system.

 

[UncleBob]

Oh, come on. This is embarrassing. If rather see the season finish behind closed door than it be cancelled. We're 80 or so % through. Gotta finish it delayed or without fans.

If Liverpool win, so be it but I couldn't let my ocd have a season be unfinished.

It reaches a point where it becomes meaningless. A decent chunk of Arsenals squad, all the players + a large part of their staff, will be isolated for a minimum of 2 weeks, most likely there's players at other clubs that spread the virus without showing symptoms. The players will quickly be in no mental state to focus on football. Spain had 31 deaths today related to covid-19.

 

[VP89]

Oh, come on. This is embarrassing. If rather see the season finish behind closed door than it be cancelled. We're 80 or so % through. Gotta finish it delayed or without fans.

If Liverpool win, so be it but I couldn't let my ocd have a season be unfinished.

Tough shit, health comes first.

 

[Megadrive Man]

Shows you what 30 years of hurt can do.

You haven’t won anything yet. You are only declared champions when it is mathematically impossible for any other team to overtake you. It’s like saying you won the Euro Millions as you guessed all the correct 7 numbers but didn’t buy a ticket with those numbers on it.

I'm not old enough for 30 years of hurt. In normal circumstances then yes you are correct, but in circumstances where you are unable to finish a season, you think what? you just bury your head in the sand and pretend it didn't happen? I hope that's not your plan for Covid 19?

Another poor analogy. A realistic one would be you guessed all 7 correct numbers on the Euro Millions. Paid for a ticket. Sat down in front of the TV, watched the numbers come in. Went to collect it but then Camelot said you haven't won it yet because the 7th ball hasn't officially stopped yet. its 5mm away from stopping but its got stuck so the draw is null and void!

 

[Tarrou]

Yes I never really understood that myself. I don't think the majority of Liverpool fans were cheering on Chelsea in that game. Most Liverpool fans respect United more than Chelsea.

But the point is Liverpool are strolling to the title! If we were 10 points or even less clear then yes fine, its a long way to go etc.

In the event of the season being cancelled the table will still show Liverpool being 25 points clear. It would be incredibly damaging to the brand of the Premier League to deny Liverpool the league now.

good one

 

[Rhyme Animal]

Luckily Liverpool are so far ahead it will be impossible for anyone to ever suggest Liverpool haven't won the league this year. If it were closer then you could make another argument, but Liverpool have won the 19/20 Premier League, even if it gets postponed or voided.

No I just think it's embarrassing the way that some people are suggesting Liverpool should be denied the title when it's obvious they were going to win it. I thought United were better than that.

When I was in my 20s I was at a party in London... there was a beautiful, tall, Dutch model there, in her late 20s, utterly stunning.

We spent ages talking and it started to become very clear that for whatever reason, she liked me. She was holding my hand and wouldn't leave my side. She then asked how far away I lived from the party and if she could come back with me.

Unfortunately, about an hour prior to us hitting it off, I thought it'd be a good idea to neck copious amounts of crystal MDMA, which was extremely potent and as the evening went on I became, shall we say, more 'psychedelic' minded than libidinous...

I had no idea what the fecking feck I was doing and after stumbling around the party like Steven Gerrard trying to intercept a misplaced pass to Demba Ba, I stumbled home, back to my lonely room with my dog looking at me and probably thinking 'you twat, not again'.

What should've been a XXX porn scene ended up more like an out-take from Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas.

Now, the above story is true. But what wouldn't be true, is if I tried to say that I DID shag the gorgeous Dutch babe... because, well, I didn't.

I could've, she was right there for the taking... but I didn't.

And that's how this season would be remembered for you if the PL is voided - you could've won it, but you didn't.

And besides, it's worse for Utd - we're being denied the EL and the F.A Cup, you're only being denied a PL title, and trust me, they come and go - well, not so much for you, but for us.

Also, another way of looking at it, is that if you do fail to win it - yes, you'll feel a bit mopey for a bit, but you will've brought so much joy and amusement to the rest of the League at a time of National crisis.

And that, my scouse friend, is a beautiful thing.

 

[clarkydaz]

 

[17 Van der Gouw]

I can't see voiding being a thing.

BUT the trouble with just letting the football league standings just 'stop where they are' is not that teams will complain about Liverpool winning, the problem is more the teams in the relegation zones feeling like they haven't had a fair chance to fight their way out of it.

I suspect behind closed doors for the rest of the season will be the best compromise. It will be bleak for Liverpool lifting the trophy in front of no fans.

 

[Ronaldo's ego]

Of course you aren't but many other fans would be. You're not really doing much to dispute my initial claim that it would be agenda driven either (which in itself is a bit icky when you consider it's a global pandemic we're talking about).

Believe it or not, Manchester United don’t decide what happens here. The people in charge of the league will discuss it and make a decision, possibly clubs get a vote. Liverpool being a few games from wrapping the league up shouldn’t even be in consideration when making a decision.

 

[Cat1989]

Freeze the league as it is with no relegations happening and as a one off expand the league next season to 22 teams to include Leeds and West Brom. Exclude teams from the league cup who are playing in Europe and scrap FA cup replays for rounds 3 and 4

 

[MikeKing]

Cut the league short and make it fair for everyone. Provided no players get infected by then.

Finish the league in cup-style. Top 6 teams in one cup and the bottom 6 teams in another fight it out. Mid-table teams wont complain about staying safe from relegation and have no chance of top 4.

What if a lot of Liverpool players got sick and had to play on without half their squad, they could lose the title. The only fair thing if it can't be settled in a quick competition behind closed doors is to delete this season of football from the record completely.