Could they void the PL due to the Coronavirus? | No | Resuming June 17th

[HackeyC]

Honestly I would prefer the season not to be cancelled, as much as it would be funny (in a football rivalry sense), it raises so many issues. Off the top of my head and aside from the risk to life:

Would the current positions be frozen this year?
Is relegation/promotion paused for a season?
How are prize money and parachute payments to be allocated?
Do we revert to last years finishing positions? i.e. Do Arsenal secure Champions League for their 5th place last year.
What happens to the Champions League this season?
European Championships on/off?
What happens to players out of contract in July is the season is extended or even the start of next season delayed?

I would hate to be making those decisions, no matter what you do I can imagine a legal challenge from someone.

 

[Ronaldo's ego]

Luckily Liverpool are so far ahead it will be impossible for anyone to ever suggest Liverpool haven't won the league this year. If it were closer then you could make another argument, but Liverpool have won the 19/20 Premier League, even if it gets postponed or voided. Nobody will ever be able to change the way the current table looks.

Voided, a write off, doesn’t exist, didn’t happen. The history books will skip over 19/20 season and Liverpool will remain on 18 league titles for hopefully another 30 years.

 

[Marcus]

The question is when not if anymore.

 

[MackRobinson]

When I was in my 20s I was at a party in London... there was a beautiful, tall, Dutch model there, in her late 20s, utterly stunning.

We spent ages talking and it started to become very clear that for whatever reason, she liked me. She was holding my hand and wouldn't leave my side. She then asked how far away I lived from the party and if she could come back with me.

Unfortunately, about an hour prior to us hitting it off, I thought it'd be a good idea to neck copious amounts of crystal MDMA, which was extremely potent and as the evening went on I became, shall we say, more 'psychedelic' minded than libidinous...

I had no idea what the fecking feck I was doing and after stumbling around the party like Steven Gerrard trying to intercept a misplaced pass to Demba Ba, I stumbled home, back to my lonely room with my dog looking at me and probably thinking 'you twat, not again'.

What should've been a XXX porn scene ended up more like an out-take from Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas.

Now, the above story is true. But what wouldn't be true, is if I tried to say that I DID shag the gorgeous Dutch babe... because, well, I didn't.

I could've, she was right there for the taking... but I didn't.

And that's how this season would be remembered for you if the PL is voided - you could've won it, but you didn't.

And besides, it's worse for Utd - we're being denied the EL and the F.A Cup, you're only being denied a PL title, and trust me, they come and go - well, not so much for you, but for us.

Also, another way of looking at it, is that if you do fail to win it - yes, you'll feel a bit mopey for a bit, but you will've brought so much joy and amusement to the rest of the League at a time of National crisis.

And that, my scouse friend, is a beautiful thing.

Some form of this has happened to me many a time, and because of that, I have to agree.

"Almost doesn't count" - Brandy

 

[amolbhatia50k]

It's going to be one giant mess. There's no way you can cancel this season without pissing off most people. Than again, if we resume in August from where we are now, it'll be a complete drag /chore. I guess they'll go for the latter as at least it would be 'fair'.

 

[amolbhatia50k]

Cut the league short and make it fair for everyone. Provided no players get infected by then.

Finish the league in cup-style. Top 6 teams in one cup and the bottom 6 teams in another fight it out. Mid-table teams wont complain about staying safe from relegation and have no chance of top 4.

What if a lot of Liverpool players got sick and had to play on without half their squad, they could lose the title. The only fair thing if it can't be settled in a quick competition behind closed doors is to delete this season of football from the record completely.

I was just thinking. Why don't they have play offs for the key places either behind closed doors or whenever it is safe to do so. And then the European ties which wouldn't take long to complete.

 

[Megadrive Man]

When I was in my 20s I was at a party in London... there was a beautiful, tall, Dutch model there, in her late 20s, utterly stunning.

We spent ages talking and it started to become very clear that for whatever reason, she liked me. She was holding my hand and wouldn't leave my side. She then asked how far away I lived from the party and if she could come back with me.

Unfortunately, about an hour prior to us hitting it off, I thought it'd be a good idea to neck copious amounts of crystal MDMA, which was extremely potent and as the evening went on I became, shall we say, more 'psychedelic' minded than libidinous...

I had no idea what the fecking feck I was doing and after stumbling around the party like Steven Gerrard trying to intercept a misplaced pass to Demba Ba, I stumbled home, back to my lonely room with my dog looking at me and probably thinking 'you twat, not again'.

What should've been a XXX porn scene ended up more like an out-take from Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas.

Now, the above story is true. But what wouldn't be true, is if I tried to say that I DID shag the gorgeous Dutch babe... because, well, I didn't.

I could've, she was right there for the taking... but I didn't.

And that's how this season would be remembered for you if the PL is voided - you could've won it, but you didn't.

And besides, it's worse for Utd - we're being denied the EL and the F.A Cup, you're only being denied a PL title, and trust me, they come and go - well, not so much for you, but for us.

Also, another way of looking at it, is that if you do fail to win it - yes, you'll feel a bit mopey for a bit, but you will've brought so much joy and amusement to the rest of the League at a time of National crisis.

And that, my scouse friend, is a beautiful thing.

That's a wonderful story (not for you, although I'm sure when you were off your tits you probably felt pretty good?) Its also the least accurate analogy!

If you want to make a proper analogy to Liverpool winning the league this year then It's need to be where you did everything right to achieve your goal, got 99% of the way to doing it, but then due to circumstances completely out of your control you were denied it.

In your case it would have been if you arrived sober, met a stunner, pulled her, went back to yours, stripped off, was just about to get stuck in to her but then an earthquake happened, and you got separated and never saw her again.

You've only got yourself to blame for that one sunny jim!

 

[Rhyme Animal]

It's going to be one giant mess. There's no way you can cancel this season without pissing off most people. Than again, if we resume in August from where we are now, it'll be a complete drag /chore. I guess they'll go for the latter as at least it would be 'fair'.

Who's gonna be pissed off...?

Liverpool and Leeds, yes, but beyond them?

City - Guardiola has clearly stated he thinks there's no point in playing behind closed doors
Foxes - Rodgers has said the same thing as Guardiola
Chelsea - they get to stay in the CL
Utd - Dippers get denied a PL

Wolves - stay in EL

Midtable - who cares?

Relegation teams - Will all be over the Moon

 

[DVG7]

Yes I never really understood that myself. I don't think the majority of Liverpool fans were cheering on Chelsea in that game. Most Liverpool fans respect United more than Chelsea.

But the point is Liverpool are strolling to the title! If we were 10 points or even less clear then yes fine, its a long way to go etc.

In the event of the season being cancelled the table will still show Liverpool being 25 points clear. It would be incredibly damaging to the brand of the Premier League to deny Liverpool the league now.

the premier league thrives off the“anything can happen” brand and regularly calls itself the best and most competitive league in the world. Their own mission statement essentially says that any one of Liverpool’s remaining opponents could beat them, and given their current plight its trending towards more probable than possible.

 

[RonaldoVII]

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[Rhyme Animal]

That's a wonderful story (not for you, although I'm sure when you were off your tits you probably felt pretty good?) Its also the least accurate analogy!

If you want to make a proper analogy to Liverpool winning the league this year then It's need to be where you did everything right to achieve your goal, got 99% of the way to doing it, but then due to circumstances completely out of your control you were denied it.

In your case it would have been if you arrived sober, met a stunner, pulled her, went back to yours, stripped off, was just about to get stuck in to her but then an earthquake happened, and you got separated and never saw her again.

You've only got yourself to blame for that one sunny jim!

And, just remind me... who invited 3000 rabid fans from a Coronavirus Hotspot into their home stadium when everyone else was playing behind closed doors???

And whose fault is it that you didn't beat Watford and Utd and sew up the title already???

Hmmm

 

[Shane88]

Can Everton just refuse to play the pricks for safety reasons?

They always bend over for Liverpool so surely they'll want to take any reason they can to avoid Liverpool winning the league at Goodison.

 

[Dozer]

I don't think we'll see any games this weekend, and not for a few weeks at least.

 

[amolbhatia50k]

Who's gonna be pissed off...?

Liverpool and Leeds, yes, but beyond them?

City - Guardiola has clearly stated he thinks there's no point in playing behind closed doors
Foxes - Rodgers has said the same thing as Guardiola
Chelsea - they get to stay in the CL
Utd - Dippers get denied a PL

Wolves - stay in EL

Midtable - who cares?

Relegation teams - Will all be over the Moon

There's no logical reason to cancel the season and disregard all that's already happened. How would that make more sense than suspending the competitions to future and to be determined date? What's the benefit other than Liverpool losing their title? Wishful thinking IMO. Sensible thing is to either determine basis results til date or resume once deemed okay to do so.

Cancelling seems unfair to the teams that have met their objectives and those who haven't. We and Liecester wouldn't get CL football. Understandable for us but terrible for them. Liverpool obviously get denied the title. All the teams in the relegation zone get an unwarranted lifeline while those in the championship have to spend another year there. It would be proper silly.

 

[0le]

There's no logical reason to cancel the season and disregard all that's already happened. How would that make more sense than suspending the competitions to future and to be determined date? What's the benefit other than Liverpool losing their title? Wishful thinking IMO. Sensible thing is to either determine basis results til date or resume once deemed okay to do so.

Cancelling seems unfair to the teams that have met their objectives and those who haven't. We and Liecester wouldn't get CL football. Understandable for us but terrible for them. Liverpool obviously get denied the title. All the teams in the relegation zone get an unwarranted lifeline while those in the championship have to spend another year there. It would be proper silly.

What does "determine basis results" mean?

 

[Wumminator]

There's no logical reason to cancel the season and disregard all that's already happened. How would that make more sense than suspending the competitions to future and to be determined date? What's the benefit other than Liverpool losing their title? Wishful thinking IMO. Sensible thing is to either determine basis results til date or resume once deemed okay to do so.

Cancelling seems unfair to the teams that have met their objectives and those who haven't. We and Liecester wouldn't get CL football. Understandable for us but terrible for them. Liverpool obviously get denied the title. All the teams in the relegation zone get an unwarranted lifeline while those in the championship have to spend another year there. It would be proper silly.

The virus takes roughly three weeks to leave the system and you return to normal.

arsenal players might have contacted it from Arteta today. CHO might have passed it to someone today.

when do you play those games again? When do you restart the season? The prem can barely afford to add another game week.

 

[Rhyme Animal]

There's no logical reason to cancel the season and disregard all that's already happened. How would that make more sense than suspending the competitions to future and to be determined date? What's the benefit other than Liverpool losing their title? Wishful thinking IMO. Sensible thing is to either determine basis results til date or resume once deemed okay to do so.

Cancelling seems unfair to the teams that have met their objectives and those who haven't. We and Liecester wouldn't get CL football. Understandable for us but terrible for them. Liverpool obviously get denied the title. All the teams in the relegation zone get an unwarranted lifeline while those in the championship have to spend another year there. It would be proper silly.

I don't think you realize how long the 'pause' would have to go on for...

There comes a point when it's just not relevant anymore.

This won't go away in a few months. It'll be a long while. And then when it does pass, it'll be time for a new season, teams won't wanna go back just so Liverpool can hire a bus out and bounce around etc.

And like I said in my previous post - other teams will actively WANT to void it.

 

[Dante]

Blackpool were leading the the Football League in 1939 when the league was abandoned for WW2.

It didn't count towards their tally of honours, and to this day the record books say they only won the one title in 1930.

Liverpool haven't won anything this season, and nor are they going to.

20-18 YSB

 

[amolbhatia50k]

What does "determine basis results" mean?

Based on the current table

 

[hobbers]

 

[amolbhatia50k]

Blackpool were leading the the Football League in 1939 when the league was abandoned for WW2.

It didn't count towards their tally of honours, and to this day the record books say they only won the one title in 1930.

Liverpool haven't won anything this season, and nor are they going to.

20-18 YSB

Interesting. So we have precedence. How much of the league was already played?

 

[Dante]

Interesting. So we have precedence. How much of the league was already played?

Errrm... only 3 matches. But don't tell the scousers that.

 

[amolbhatia50k]

The virus takes roughly three weeks to leave the system and you return to normal.

arsenal players might have contacted it from Arteta today. CHO might have passed it to someone today.

when do you play those games again? When do you restart the season? The prem can barely afford to add another game week.

It resumes when it does. Nothing we can do about that. Only decision to make is how football will resume when it does.

 

[amolbhatia50k]

Errrm... only 3 matches. But don't tell the scousers that.

 

[el3mel]

That's it for the league. It will be so stupid to keep it going.

 

[Wumminator]

It resumes when it does. Nothing we can do about that. Only decision to make is how football will resume when it does.

Say we do 6 weeks before everything is back to normal. That will put us in May.
Do we just resume the league then and start the next season at the same time? No time off for players?

what if we stop till mid June?

 

[Dante]

It resumes when it does. Nothing we can do about that. Only decision to make is how football will resume when it does.

That's just it.

I don't think THIS season can resume. Player contracts will end in June and squads will potentially change significantly. It could also take months for isolations to end, so the knock effects of playing the 9 remaining matches will mean delaying the following season by at least a couple of months on top. This then means we have to start delaying international tournaments and so on and so forth. Then everything goes to pot.

At best, I reckon the PL will give Liverpool an honourary league title with an asterisk beside it. But the next football we'll play will be a fresh start and a new season which the authorities will try to align to the regular football calendar.

 

[DOTA]

At best, I reckon the PL will give Liverpool an honourary league title with an asterisk beside it. But the next football we'll play will be a fresh start and a new season which the authorities will try to align to the regular football calendar.

I think this is what happens.

 

[F-A-C-T-S]

Some people are really strange...A Global Pandemic is spreading like wildfire and all they are thinking about it is how it affects Liverpool who are running away with the league, I mean who the feck cares? Liverpool is a complete non factor.

 

[tenpoless]

Stop the league, decide if there's no winner for this season because there's not enough time to finish it and You never know what's going to happen. Start next season as usual.

 

[DOTA]

Some people are really strange...A Global Pandemic is spreading like wildfire and all they are thinking about it is how it affects Liverpool who are running away with the league, I mean who the feck cares? Liverpool is a complete non factor.

We mainly talk seriously about the global pandemic in the serious thread about the global pandemic in the general.

This thread is specifically about its effect on the Premier League.

 

[Rhyme Animal]

At best, I reckon the PL will give Liverpool an honourary league title with an asterisk beside it. But the next football we'll play will be a fresh start and a new season which the authorities will try to align to the regular football calendar.

Thing is, Watford just thrashed them... Watford are a relegation team.

Chelsea beat them in FA Cup.

Atletico beat them home and away in the CL.

They've lost 4 of their last 6 games in all competitions.

You either have to continue the PL and let them win it fairly, or declare it void.

You can't give them (or any team) a title that hasn't been won properly.

 

[Dante]

Thing is, Watford just thrashed them... Watford are a relegation team.

Chelsea beat them in FA Cup.

Atletico beat them home and away in the CL.

They've lost 4 of their last 6 games in all competitions.

You either have to continue the PL and let them win it fairly, or declare it void.

You can't give them (or any team) a title that hasn't been won properly.

Hence the asterisk. It won't count towards the official tally, but will be a form of unofficial recognition.

As much as I agree with you, I think a nominally neutral body like the PL will have to do award them something, even if only a hollow substitute.

 

[Djemba-Djemba]

We mainly talk seriously about the global pandemic in the serious thread about the global pandemic in the general.

This thread is specifically about its effect on the Premier League.

It would be good if everyone on here would read your post.

Joking about Liverpool not winning the title on the football forum doesn't mean you're not taking the pandemic seriously.

 

[Rhyme Animal]

Hence the asterisk. It won't count towards the official tally, but will be a form of unofficial recognition.

I dunno, if it doesn't count toward the official tally, why bother?

It just confuses things.

Maybe they could give them a small points advantage or something when the new season eventually starts up again?

 

[MikeKing]

I was just thinking. Why don't they have play offs for the key places either behind closed doors or whenever it is safe to do so. And then the European ties which wouldn't take long to complete.

Yes. Would have worked if teams weren't getting sick already. Sport is off completely then, happy holidays. Netflix it is and also I think I'm going to order those Man Utd season dvd's full boxset or something or I'll go mad. Can't even go to the bowling alley for some simple fun. This sucks.

 

[Dante]

I dunno, if it doesn't count toward the official tally, why bother?

It just confuses things.

Maybe they could give them a points advantage or something when the new season eventually starts up again?

It'll be something like the specially commissioned invincibles trophy

Meaningless in any real sense.

But the Premier League will need to give Liverpool something for the sake of appearing to be neutral body with some sporting integrity.

If it was any other club, you'd have to say they don't deserve the title but do deserve at least a trinket.

It won't be equal in worth to a League or European title. Probably not even equal to an FA Cup. Maybe around as prestigious as the League Cup. Definitely not their 19th.

 

[Gringo]

I dunno, if it doesn't count toward the official tally, why bother?

It just confuses things.

Maybe they could give them a points advantage or something when the new season eventually starts up again?

Have you got a fever ?

 

[MikeKing]

It'll be something like the special invincibles trophy

Meaningless in any real sense.

But the Premier League will need to give Liverpool something for the sake of appearing to be neutral body with some sporting integrity.

Alternative League table without Corona trophy? No, I know it now. 'The best type of football played'-trophy. Klopp would prefer that one to the real one I think.

 

[Rhyme Animal]

It'll be something like the specially commissioned invincibles trophy

Meaningless in any real sense.

But the Premier League will need to give Liverpool something for the sake of appearing to be neutral body with some sporting integrity.

If it was any other club, you'd have to say they don't deserve the title but do deserve a trinket.

Aw man, I miss Wenger.

Things were better when Wenger was in the PL.

Have you got a fever ?

A small points advantage. And NO MORE VAR.