Could they void the PL due to the Coronavirus? | No | Resuming June 17th

[KristianKrystal]

Sky News just had an immunologist explain why Covid-19 affects people in such drastically different ways. She said it’s essentially because of individuals immunity genes and it’s the same reason why some people get colds often and others, sometimes in close proximity, don’t.
This difference in immunity is vital to the survival of the human race. If we all had the same type of immune system then potentially a single infectious disease could wipe out the entire planet.

It was a short interview and I would have liked to have heard if there was some way of knowing how susceptible individuals were. People with compromised immune systems due to underlying health conditions and/or because they take immunosuppressants due to organ transplants have been identified as high risk but there will be other individuals including young healthy people who will be at risk because of their immunity genes.

I wish people who don’t seem to grasp the severity of the situation and have not been enacting social distancing measures could have seen this interview.

I think the difference in genes means that we react differently to the virus ie. from few symptoms to severe symptoms. If you’re young and healthy and have a genetic disposition to get more sick in general you should still be fine, but young people can also get sick and with when if enough get infected statistically some young people will also need intensive care and respiratory support although most should be fine after.
This also happens with the flu although mainly if you have lung disease like asthma. They way I see it the biggest challenge is the capacity in the health care system and the amount of intensive care beds and respirators available.

 

[royboy16]

Alright, 117 pages, jeez. Can anyone summarize what's the most likely scenario right now?

BBC reckon on the simulation model results, liverpool will get the trophy.

 

[HackeyC]

BBC reckon on the simulation model results, liverpool will get the trophy.

FY20/21 PL season to be decided on Football Manager 2020

 

[Strelok]

Found someone posting this a few days ago which really made me chuckle:

Day 2 without sports:

Found a young lady sitting on my couch yesterday. Apparently she’s my wife. She seems nice.

 

[FootballHQ]

Alright, 117 pages, jeez. Can anyone summarize what's the most likely scenario right now?

Nothing until July/August at the very earliest.

 

[thegregster]

BBC reckon on the simulation model results, liverpool will get the trophy.

They are going to use the RAWK alternative table.

Unfortunately it means we are relegated.

 

[thegregster]

If the PL goes past the 30th June how will they decide European places?

UEFA can't do the draws unless they know all the teams by that date.

The competitions start in late June by its only the smaller teams. But for the mid July rounds they need to know all the teams.

They need to know it for their seeding system.

So it starts. Doubt UEFA would allow it.

Tweet

— Twitter API (@user) date

If the PL goes past the 30th no PL team will be allowed into European competition next season.

 

[dwd]

So it starts. Doubt UEFA would allow it.

Tweet

— Twitter API (@user) date

If the PL goes past the 30th no PL team will be allowed into European competition next season.

That's another vote towards the 14 then.

 

[Buchan]

I’m sure it’s been mentioned here before (I haven’t read every post on every page thus far), but surely whatever happens with the leagues resuming, it’ll be uniform for every league in Europe? Why would England differ from Spain, Italy, Germany etc.? Just to appease the Scousers? If the other leagues agree with UEFA that it’s nigh-on impossible to conclude this season within a reasonable timeframe, and that beginning next season should be a priority, what have the Premier League got to gain by completing their 2019/20 season by any means necessary?

A common ground will have to be found here and all leagues will have to be considered and liaised with.

 

[dwd]

I’m sure it’s been mentioned here before (I haven’t read every post on every page thus far), but surely whatever happens with the leagues resuming, it’ll be uniform for every league in Europe? Why would England differ from Spain, Italy, Germany etc.? Just to appease the Scousers? If the other leagues agree with UEFA that it’s nigh-on impossible to conclude this season within a reasonable timeframe, and that beginning next season should be a priority, what have the Premier League got to gain by completing their 2019/20 season by any means necessary?

A common ground will have to be found here and all leagues will have to be considered and liaised with.

Money.

 

[Buchan]

Money.

And risk being alienated from European competition for the 2020/21 season as their qualifying clubs won’t be finalised? I don’t think so.

 

[Devil may care]

What are other leagues doing? We seem to be the only one that is massively bothered about finishing this season from what I've read, mainly due to the whiny would be champions fanbase.

 

[Ludens the Red]

If they decide to play behind closed doors and a player gets infected, can he take legal actions against the team/league?

Id imagine so yes. Put in unnecessary danger by his employer

Absolutely no chance, in their dreams. Footballers are always at risk to injury or illness. Why would this be any different?

They're just like everyone else , in the same way police officers, nurses, train drivers, delivery drivers are at risk so are they. Can you imagine if everybody could sue who they work for because they caught the coronavirus whilst working

There is also literally zero way of proving when and where you caught or catch the infection. To be fair to footballers most will hate the idea of sitting around not playing and I’d imagine all would be willing to start playing again within a reasonable time.

 

[diawl_coch]

And risk being alienated from European competition for the 2020/21 season as their qualifying clubs won’t be finalised? I don’t think so.

China is the place to watch. Superleague was due to start a month ago.

If things get going there, there might be hope.

 

[Class of 63]

Absolutely no chance, in their dreams. Footballers are always at risk to injury or illness. Why would this be any different?

They're just like everyone else , in the same way police officers, nurses, train drivers, delivery drivers are at risk so are they. Can you imagine if everybody could sue who they work for because they caught the coronavirus whilst working

There is also literally zero way of proving when and where you caught or catch the infection. To be fair to footballers most will hate the idea of sitting around not playing and I’d imagine all would be willing to start playing again within a reasonable time.

'Danger Money' will be written into their contracts somewhere.

 

[Redcy]

Completely ignoring the financial ramifications. Yes you could argue that maybe we don't need 4 tiers of football in england, I saw a guess somewhere that if we don't start football up within 9 months of the 90+ teams in the league at least 50% will go out of business completely. It may be the biggest shake up in football ever if it happens.

 

[Greck]

Completely ignoring the financial ramifications. Yes you could argue that maybe we don't need 4 tiers of football in england, I saw a guess somewhere that if we don't start football up within 9 months of the 90+ teams in the league at least 50% will go out of business completely. It may be the biggest shake up in football ever if it happens.

I wonder when teams threatened with bankruptcy are going to stop paying player's salaries to avoid it. Would imagine a few players would rather lose a paycheck than lose a job

 

[horsechoker]

I wonder when teams threatened with bankruptcy are going to stop paying player's salaries to avoid it. Would imagine a few players would rather lose a paycheck than lose a job

I wonder if we'll see footballers and clubs look for directing funding from gofundme or Patreon.

Maybe even more heavily reliant on advertisers?

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[Crustanoid]

Its not happening LFC fans

000000s of people dying I think is more important than your league

Kindly fvck off now

Once football resumes, if you are good enough, you will win now

 

[thegregster]

I’m sure it’s been mentioned here before (I haven’t read every post on every page thus far), but surely whatever happens with the leagues resuming, it’ll be uniform for every league in Europe? Why would England differ from Spain, Italy, Germany etc.? Just to appease the Scousers? If the other leagues agree with UEFA that it’s nigh-on impossible to conclude this season within a reasonable timeframe, and that beginning next season should be a priority, what have the Premier League got to gain by completing their 2019/20 season by any means necessary?

A common ground will have to be found here and all leagues will have to be considered and liaised with.

https://shewore.com/2020/01/28/fa-a...rd-fa-cup-winners-with-champions-league-spot/

It used to be the case that each association decided themselves how teams qualified. Of course they pretty much all had the same sort of system.

Now UEFA have a set of rules. So its going to be up to them to sort the mess out.

 

[redman5]

I’m sure it’s been mentioned here before (I haven’t read every post on every page thus far), but surely whatever happens with the leagues resuming, it’ll be uniform for every league in Europe? Why would England differ from Spain, Italy, Germany etc.? Just to appease the Scousers? If the other leagues agree with UEFA that it’s nigh-on impossible to conclude this season within a reasonable timeframe, and that beginning next season should be a priority, what have the Premier League got to gain by completing their 2019/20 season by any means necessary?

A common ground will have to be found here and all leagues will have to be considered and liaised with.

Don't know about what the Premier League have to gain by ensuring the season is completed. But we all know what they stand to lose - financially - if it's not. & this common ground you speak of, that would be playing all matches behind closed doors right across Europe wouldn't it ? Hardly ideal, but as a worst case scenario, i.e a European lockdown having little effect on the spreading of the virus, then the BCD option is still very much on the table.

 

[Greck]

I wonder if we'll see footballers and clubs look for directing funding from gofundme or Patreon?

We'll all be lucky to not have to open a gofundme if this drags out

 

[thegregster]

Don't know about what the Premier League have to gain by ensuring the season is completed. But we all know what they stand to lose - financially - if it's not. & this common ground you speak of, that would be playing all matches behind closed doors right across Europe wouldn't it ? Hardly ideal, but as a worst case scenario, i.e a European lockdown having little effect on the spreading of the virus, then the BCD option is still very much on the table.

Fans cant be trusted to stay away.

Trying to keep them away would take a huge amount of resources which cant be wasted at this time.

 

[Random Task]

Don't know about what the Premier League have to gain by ensuring the season is completed. But we all know what they stand to lose - financially - if it's not. & this common ground you speak of, that would be playing all matches behind closed doors right across Europe wouldn't it ? Hardly ideal, but as a worst case scenario, i.e a European lockdown having little effect on the spreading of the virus, then the BCD option is still very much on the table.

You have to take the clubs outside the PL into consideration before you propose how and when to restart the league. They gain no benefit whatsoever from playing games behind closed doors for obvious reasons.

 

[redman5]

Fans cant be trusted to stay away.

Trying to keep them away would take a huge amount of resources which cant be wasted at this time.

TBFthough a lot has happened even in the short space of time since that PSG match was played. I think it's dawning on more & more people right across Europe that this Covid-19 really means business & needs to be taken seriously by everyone regardless of one's age or health situation. I'm pretty sure if senior figures - manager, players etc - at clubs who stand to gain by ensuring the fixtures are completed, were to speak to their own supporters via social media, tv, the press, & urge them to stay at home & watch the game on television, the vast majority of fans would heed their words. Even more so if they knew the consequences could well be that the season doesn't reach it's climax.

 

[thegregster]

TBFthough a lot has happened even in the short space of time since that PSG match was played. I think it's dawning on more & more people right across Europe that this Covid-19 really means business & needs to be taken seriously by everyone regardless of one's age or health situation. I'm pretty sure if senior figures - manager, players etc - at clubs who stand to gain by ensuring the fixtures are completed, were to speak to their own supporters via social media, tv, the press, & urge them to stay at home & watch the game on television, the vast majority of fans would heed their words. Even more so if they knew the consequences could well be that the season doesn't reach it's climax.

People cant be trusted. Look at the pubs last night.

What about players injuries?

They usually go straight to a public hospital for initial assessment and treatment.

Not many private hospitals open at 9pm on a Wednesday night in the UK or across Europe.

 

[Ish]

The way this thing is developing there might not even be a next season.

Bingo

 

[redman5]

You have to take the clubs outside the PL into consideration before you propose how and when to restart the league. They gain no benefit whatsoever from playing games behind closed doors for obvious reasons.

I was speaking generically about the top leagues in Europe, the lower leagues present a completely different challenge. European qualification is one of the main targets/objectives for a lot of teams in the top leagues. If this season doesn't get completed it'll simply throw up even more problems for UEFA.

 

[redman5]

People cant be trusted. Look at the pubs last night.

What about players injuries?

They usually go straight to a public hospital for initial assessment and treatment.

Not many private hospitals open at 9pm on a Wednesday night in the UK or across Europe.

How did PSG overcome that when they played Dortmund ? (serious question)

 

[thegregster]

How did PSG overcome that when they played Dortmund ? (serious question)

I presume if somebody got injured seriously they would have had to go to one of the public hospitals.

But when hospitals are full from May onwards it wouldn't be too well received by the public.

 

[dwd]

And risk being alienated from European competition for the 2020/21 season as their qualifying clubs won’t be finalised? I don’t think so.

Well why else do they seem hell-bent on completing the season no matter the consequences?

 

[Ish]

I was speaking generically about the top leagues in Europe, the lower leagues present a completely different challenge. European qualification is one of the main targets/objectives for a lot of teams in the top leagues. If this season doesn't get completed it'll simply throw up even more problems for UEFA.

Tbf, every solution throws up a number of problems to a number of people/institutions. I guess it’s a question of fairness & priorities (to the majority).

 

[Hugh Jass]

Sky News just had an immunologist explain why Covid-19 affects people in such drastically different ways. She said it’s essentially because of individuals immunity genes and it’s the same reason why some people get colds often and others, sometimes in close proximity, don’t.
This difference in immunity is vital to the survival of the human race. If we all had the same type of immune system then potentially a single infectious disease could wipe out the entire planet.

It was a short interview and I would have liked to have heard if there was some way of knowing how susceptible individuals were. People with compromised immune systems due to underlying health conditions and/or because they take immunosuppressants due to organ transplants have been identified as high risk but there will be other individuals including young healthy people who will be at risk because of their immunity genes.

I wish people who don’t seem to grasp the severity of the situation and have not been enacting social distancing measures could have seen this interview.

Does this mean that people who generally pick up colds and the flu more often will be most affected by this new virus?

 

[Finn MacCool]

Does this mean that people who generally pick up colds and the flu more often will be most affected by this new virus?

I didn't take that from the interview but it would be worth seeking qualified medical opinion. I do know that anyone who qualifies for a yearly flu jab, is classed as being at more risk of some of the serious effects of Covid-19. Here is a link to who qualifies for the flu jab, it might help.

 

[redshaw]

"Premier League could resume before coronavirus restrictions are lifted – Southampton chief"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/51990101

When everybody is safe and we're not using up NHS and police resources, the government would like us to get back to playing because we are entertainment and a sign that the country is coming back to normal.

If people are home for another month and Premier League football is on the TV every day that can only be a good thing. Not because we are more essential than the NHS but because we can give people entertainment and show that we're fighting back."

Semmens said teams are hopeful of completing the league by the end of June but did not yet know when play would resume."

Don't think that is possible. The shit hits the fans in 3-4 weeks and police and NHS will be beyond the limit and more.

 

[christinaa]

What are other leagues doing? We seem to be the only one that is massively bothered about finishing this season from what I've read, mainly due to the whiny would be champions fanbase.

You are exactly right!!
The world will end if the whiny would be champions are not appeased - Horror of horrors!

Don't know about what the Premier League have to gain by ensuring the season is completed. But we all know what they stand to lose - financially - if it's not. & this common ground you speak of, that would be playing all matches behind closed doors right across Europe wouldn't it ? Hardly ideal, but as a worst case scenario, i.e a European lockdown having little effect on the spreading of the virus, then the BCD option is still very much on the table.

BCD only serves for one reason: giving the scousers the PL League - for the rest it's definitely not fair to play bc doors.

 

[BeforeKeanetherewasRobson]

Alright, 117 pages, jeez. Can anyone summarize what's the most likely scenario right now?

This is going to last loads longer than we thought.

And Dalglish still talks crap.

 

[Buchan]

If this season doesn’t resume soon (or, indeed, never will), the Scousers themselves will have a lot of flak to cop over their incredibly selfish decision to have 3,000+ fans from Madrid mingling among the UK populace for up to three days when they played Atletico at Anfield. It was completely irresponsible of them. Due to football matches requiring the presence of the emergency services, a service which will be stretched beyond their limit for the foreseeable future, it’s fantastically naive to assume the Premier League will return any time in late April or early May.

These money-hungry bastards need a reality check. The public absolutely should not stand for it.

 

[Dancfc]

"Premier League could resume before coronavirus restrictions are lifted – Southampton chief"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/51990101

When everybody is safe and we're not using up NHS and police resources, the government would like us to get back to playing because we are entertainment and a sign that the country is coming back to normal.

If people are home for another month and Premier League football is on the TV every day that can only be a good thing. Not because we are more essential than the NHS but because we can give people entertainment and show that we're fighting back."

Semmens said teams are hopeful of completing the league by the end of June but did not yet know when play would resume."

Don't think that is possible. The shit hits the fans in 3-4 weeks and police and NHS will be beyond the limit and more.

Probably not in 3-4 weeks, but it's pretty clear from the comments of the last few days that unless it's lip service to give us some light at the end of the tunnel there's at the very least going to be an attempt at some sort of ressurection in the not too distant future.

 

[Dennis Viollet]

the exodus of Juventus players continues. This means two things. Or they are running away or Juve knows that the season is over