The general public are like lemmings. They need to be led and told literally what to do. It’s about time the governments realized this very simple fact and stopped with the ambiguous, wishy washy messaging. Lock it down. Give them access cards to go to the shop in turns. Anyone else on the street? Arrest them, shoot them I don’t care.
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
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Journalists are considered essential workers....not that the prick is an actual journalist mind.
So I've been wondering about what happens after a lockdown. Let's say, in an ideal world, that a lockdown is implemented in a perfect way and the health services manage to get casualties under control. How exactly do you then go about restarting society and allowing people to get infected in a manageable way?
I assume there are plans for this. Anyone know what they are?
I assume there are plans for this. Anyone know what they are?
This will happen in Europe as well and is the "desired" outcome. Get the virus under control, start loosening the restrictions, when cases are confirmed through intensive testing and tighten it up to get control again. The goal is to have the maximum amount of freedom in life(economical impact) while simultaneously not hit the capacity of the number of ICU beds(and especially ECMOs) which is one of the main reasons of the high CFR in Italy.
This is bang on.
It's not though, previous generations were as dumb. The only difference is that now people have the technological tools to expose their stupidity.
That's very true. People talk about having freedoms taken away from them but I absolutely support in times like this. It's been proven time and again that people are irresponsible arsenals that can't be trusted with anything.
Idiocracy?
We're becoming pandas.
I think it was the perfect storm. We'd had probably the worst winter ever in terms of rain and storms, a lot of confined public spaces were closed, the first nice weather of the year appeared and people mistakenly estimated they'd be safe up a mountain in the fresh air.
Have a think about how stupid the average person is. Then realise that 50% of people are more stupid than that.............
The IQ of people across the globe is getting lower. It's a fact.
Also, hopefully this is a sign that we're falling behind Italy. Only one day of course, so the next couple will be vital. But it's a significant difference between us and them for yesterday.
Had to laugh doing my Asda shopping online, the only baked beans they have in stock are the Heinz 'no added sugar' variety. People don't seem to like the healthy option even in times of pandemic panic buying.
Until the vaccine is here I presume. Or we build herd immunity. If it's the latter, in all likelihood it'll be a shit show. Apparently Hong Kong are getting a spike in new cases after measures were relaxed. This thing isn't going away, unfortunately.
Yeah,I've noticed this.
Stocked up on quiche's.
Yeah those a good points. We can't help ourselves but to stick our fecking shorts on and hit the beach when it's sunny but still only 14 degrees outside.
Presumably there must be a release of people by age group perhaps? Location will come into it.
It just seems like a monstrously difficult situation to manage and implement.
No longer survival of the fittest. Lazy dumb people like to reproduce and spawn children with similar values toward society and their futures.
What a great movie. Watched it last night!
I've no idea how it's going to work but I can't see this going away as it's spread far beyond containment at this point. No one is going to enforce such quarantines where the R0 goes below 1. The whole world would literally have to come to a standstill. It's not going to happen.
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Not the Army; the National Guard is being called up. Standard procedure for a State of Emergency.
They help officials with a variety of random things like after a natural disaster...basically cheap labor.
NY will have a massive problem with looting and civil disturbance. It will get really bad there, I reckon.
And rightly so. I slag off Sky news a lot but reports like theirs from northern Italy can help save a lot of lives. Piers is a tit thought
That was my thought process. Smarter people are busy building careers etc. Don't have time for families and when they do it's planned around financial situations. Then on the other hand you get bums just spawning next generation yobs by the dozen. Of course this is all just conjecture but it certainly feels like it.
I don't know if its a fact, its a hypothesis based on the idea that IQ and education are negatively correlated with the number of kids and therefore less educated people are producing more kids.
The less educated could do with either the fact that they are not smart enough to read and learn or that they don't have the resources, either of which could be true. There's plenty of examples in developing nations where parents who never went to college produce kids who have PhDs because education in general is more accessible now.
Me too. Epic.
That’s great because being diabetic it’s the only ones i eat when I have the choice.
A mixture of social media, lack of or standardized education, populistic media causing populistic people, and a small bit of eugenics (which again is heavily influenced by social structure: people with fewer resources will not get the same opportunities as rich people. I mean, Trump became president.).
Hard data: Uneducated people have more kids on average and at a younger age, but this should not be seen in isolation. Environment and Inheritance are vital factors in this, while some extreme people will say that Heredity is the one that counts...
And IQ (tests) can be trained. A person with a scoring of 100 can "train" to perform higher on the test over time.
Well, no one’s going to feck with a pallet of toilet paper being delivered when it’s with someone in army camo.
I'm just parroting this info by the way but to me it feels like people are less intelligent, certainly going by the way we're acting now. Anyway full article is in the link below.
"A defining trend in human intelligence tests that saw people steadily obtaining higher IQ scores through the 20th century has abruptly ended, a new study shows.
The Flynn effect – named after the work of Kiwi intelligence researcher James Flynn – observed rapid rises in intelligence quotient at a rate of about 3 IQ points per decade in the 20th century, but new research suggests these heady boom days are long gone."
https://www.sciencealert.com/iq-sco...telligence-boom-flynn-effect-intelligence/amp
The guy from the WHO was talking about the importance of aggressive testing and contact tracing in this regard. So I guess they use that to dictate when, where and how lockdown gets lifted bit by bit? Maybe certain regions/cities being treated differently, different measures being lifted in a staggered way, social distancing remaining in place and the elderly/vulnerable told to continue to self-isolate?
I'd imagine it would have to be done in a fairly bespoke way that suits the requirements of each country.
Honestly it was just a throwaway comment as it certainly feels like people are acting like total idiots regarding this.
It's a flawed fact, the vast majority of people don't have their IQ tested now and almost no one had it tested in the past. And the test itself is flawed.
Well, its a study based on a population of Norwegian teenagers. You can't generalize it to the rest of the world. They also say that there is disparity within siblings of the same family so the cause is not even genetic with "dumb people breeding more" as is being claimed.
Same.
My kid lives with his mother and it’s times like these I get really anxious over it, wish I could get him and hibernate
Probably not the way you're wondering.
https://www.npr.org/sections/corona...-army-corps-to-help-build-temporary-hospitals
Being told by the Mayor to "Go inside. Play videogames" 
Not witnessed anything though I've basically been in a 3 radius square block over the last 3 days.