Another buffoon. My fiancee met him a while ago and he's meant to be a Brazilian version of Trump.
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
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My mate's grandmother in belfast has just passed away from Covid-19. She was fit and healthy (for her age) just a few weeks ago.
Not sure if there's a better thread to ask employment related question.
My employer are a private healthcare provider (care homes and behavioural schools). As our kids are considered vulnerable we have remained open. The company have just sent out a briefing outlining guidelines for different situations. The crux of these were, if you come into contact with a child in work with a confirmed case you are to carry on as normal and not self isolate. If in extreme circumstances where you may live with a high risk person they may pay for alternative accommodation for you for a week. At each point they made they made it abundantly clear that they would not be paying anyone, anything if they self isolate. That includes SSP.
Surely this would be a case for whistleblowing? The directors are endangering the lives of the staff and children as far as I'm concerned and forcing people to ignore the government's advice.
My employer are a private healthcare provider (care homes and behavioural schools). As our kids are considered vulnerable we have remained open. The company have just sent out a briefing outlining guidelines for different situations. The crux of these were, if you come into contact with a child in work with a confirmed case you are to carry on as normal and not self isolate. If in extreme circumstances where you may live with a high risk person they may pay for alternative accommodation for you for a week. At each point they made they made it abundantly clear that they would not be paying anyone, anything if they self isolate. That includes SSP.
Surely this would be a case for whistleblowing? The directors are endangering the lives of the staff and children as far as I'm concerned and forcing people to ignore the government's advice.
Let's not start hoarding tinfoil too, mate.
Sounds dodgy as hell.
Definitely report them. Some employers are showing themselves to be fecking sociopaths during this crisis, and they need to be investigated, shamed and punished where appropriate.
Some stories coming out here about very young people being unable to catch a breath when infected. Really scary. I really doubt that a high percentage of cases will be 'asymptomatic' unless there is a medical reason why people in seemingly similar condition would have such different responses to being infected.
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Was scrolling through Twitter and this Tweet provoked a visceral reaction from me. I obviously don’t know the people involved here, but it was more of a general response regarding funerals at this time. They’re hard enough as it is, as I’m sure many on here have experienced, but imagine going through one now?
You can’t even be comforted with a hug or a reassuring hand on the back as you bury your loved one. Instead, you have to stand a certain distance apart, immediate family only, not even able to reach out for someone’s hand. Very cruel.
Yes, report them.
Our staff work 5 day shifts, the children's homes are already self-isolating in as much as they aren't leaving the homes or school although we've changed the curriculum to hobbies, art and projects and each homes grounds are big enough to play various sports. All we can ask is that staff self-distance off shift but where they have families we have to see how this goes and maybe accept that they will become unavailable through contact and self-isolating. We've made no decision not to pay staff full salaries or SSP but while we can they'll draw salaries. As far as I'm concerned they are all keyworkers, we can't send kids home so we have to back them up.
I am getting increasingly more and more annoyed at my father. He is a creature of habit and is used to popping out a few times a day but he is still going on out everyday to stock up food and tidbits, despite being elderly and high risk due to underlying health conditions. At this point, you can only help someone so much. We've sat down and had a chat with him and we thought he understood but evidently not. I still don't think he understands how selfish he is being, particularly towards my mother.
Yes i would agree that they're endangering staff with that form of policy - Might be worth giving ACAS a call to get some guidance - https://www.acas.org.uk/coronavirus/if-someone-has-coronavirus-symptoms-at-work
If you are paid directly for the employer, they cannot withhold SSP if they've been told to self isolate by NHS 111.
Same happens if you get pneumonia as a young person too.
It's getting pretty horrific here now in that respect. Funerals are banned and they have already been sending coffins in army convoys to crematoriums in nearby provinces because they can't cremate the bodies fast enough, and now they are starting to run out of coffins too.
Doubt it, but shops will still be open for the essentials
Forum gold!
Doctors mess currently has exactly ..... 29 people in it. The room is 7mx8m.
Where else can we eat?
Where else can we eat?
sucks about the people that are passing away during this time since we can’t even have a proper funeral they deserve. Reminds me of Chernobyl tv show. Just cement the graves. Least it’s not like that thank god. It’s horrible, especially since they won’t let you say goodbye in their final moments. Couldn’t they not just dress them up in some hazmat suit. I wouldn’t care. If I have to fight every donator to say goodbye, I would. To hell with it.
She's from my town. I think her mum reported it a few days ago on Facebook. Tragic.
Yep, my dad's exactly the same. He's in his mid 60s and has had hypertension for years now, but he insists on going out himself to do shopping or get his medicine. We tell him to at least wear gloves if he's going to be stubborn but he refuses to do that too.
It is a killer that is for sure.
Yeah, but good luck expecting the average Joe to be sensible if you tell him that. Unfortunately you can't.
Government here allows going out for exercise (maximum of two people in a group), guess what happened on the first sunny day that followed? Crowds gathered in sportswear on those niche scenic places to exercise (boardwalks, parks) instead of distributing themselves through the enormous amount of low-traffic (even lower now) streets that every city has.
The Clinical Director of the biggest oncologic hospital in Portugal did that yesterday. Terrible news, but must be seen in the context that suicide in health professionals is above average always, and they could have done that for a myriad of different reasons.
Our lunatic president Bolsonaro made a surreal speech today calling for the end of the quarantine. Said covid is a little flu and not many of us will die, because we are young.
That is quite typical. Yes he comes across as stubborn. But he has probably lived his life as a father and husband who felt it his duty to be strong and not rely on anyone.
These are ingrained habits and he is trying to maintain his social standing in the family as the strong one.
Not a chance. And the greedy people who emptied out the supermarket shelves will be patting themselves on the back singing how we all came together to help each other out.feckin hell.
I desperately hope there's a public outcry to help all those in the NHS after the dust has settled. They all need support.
What these last few weeks have confirmed for me is that 35 - 40% of us are fecking idiots, super rich people and corporate profits are fecking useless and the majority conservatives continue to be a heartless pack of rabid cnuts.
People who are assuming that this will affect only very old people are just being naive. It is going to affect all.
And there are many youngsters (<40) who have different illness related to obesity, undergoing treatments of different kinds including mild cancer and all. All of them are in the so called vulnerable list.
And there are many youngsters (<40) who have different illness related to obesity, undergoing treatments of different kinds including mild cancer and all. All of them are in the so called vulnerable list.
This is the same leader who wants to burn down all of the Amazon Rainforest.
You have such a big country there, too, it's not like he's boss of the Isle of Man. How frightening to have a leader that says things like that.
Isn’t this basically the danger of this virus? It causes severe pneumonia.
I don't think anyone denies this.
Naive to say the least. Especially when there is no hospital beds to treat 23 year old Brad who thought licking toilets on spring break between ass munching was good fun during a global pandemic.
I will bet that in her autopsy it's found she had some unknown underlying condition. Still, sad news and RIP.
Even if 0.3% of people under 40 die, considering that about 99% with change make it from 20 to their 40th birthday, bar accidents and suicides which are not health related, it’s a significant risk that wasn’t there before. You basically have less than 1% chance of dying before 40 due to any illnesses right now, if coronavirus increases it by even 0.3% it’s a lot.
We probably need someone like him to drop dead with the virus for right wingers to open their eyes. Even then they will still see it as a conspiracy.
Yes, he can't force governors to do nothing because is a Federation. The States are not going to following his ideas in this case.
That would be enough to crash the mortgage/life insurance market surely? Especially if the fatality rate is higher as it is closer to 40
Yeah, at a much higher frequency and speed than that of normal flu.