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So many other things have been going on that i honestly thought he had conceded ages ago
Trump will beat Biden anyway, the youth vote has totally gone out of the window and this is the most uninspiring election in god knows how long and that includes 2016.No no no!!!!
That would basically put Trump into the white house again.
Trump would have beaten Sanders anyway, there's a reason why 2 supposedly uninspiring candidates both got many many more primary votes than Sanders.Trump will beat Biden anyway, the youth vote has totally gone out of the window and this is the most uninspiring election in god knows how long and that includes 2016.
SameGuess I'll be staying home in November.
“Establishment” voters, in this scheme, means center-left voters who make up just over 60 percent of the total. They stood out as favorably inclined to Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, Barack Obama and the Democratic National Committee — in other words, to the Democratic establishment.The “establishment” and the “progressive left.” A third group also emerged, and while it’s not as clearly defined as the other two, it has some overlap with the establishment and tends to be more fond of Wall Street, so I’m calling that “neoliberals.”
Not like them there yanks to make a mistake thereWhat the feck America. Biden over Sanders is insane. You guys fecked up big time.
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She made a fortune with that book.Yeah those polls again.How did that work out for Hillary.
All will be in play imo. FL would've been a write off for the Dems if Sanders was the nominee. Biden is a bit more suited to do well there.I hope he concentrates on PA, WI, MI this time. Go for FL too if DeSantis keeps messing things up.
Whats the difference ? The article never goes into the differences between the two. Neo liberalism at it's core is a model of capitalism, it's not simply a political preference, Obama was a neo liberal, the same with Pelosi. Neo liberalism has been the dominate model of capitalism for the past 40 odd years, so what the hell is establishment politics, if it isn't neoliberalism ?This is why a progressive would face difficulty to becoming the Dem nominee.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/08/opinion/bernie-sanders-democratic-party.html
In summary the party is 60% establishment, 20% neo-liberal, and 20% progressive, which doesn't seem to create favorable conditions for a progressive to win the nomination, while creating favorable conditions for an establishment candidate to win it.
Even worse for progressives then since that would make it an 80-20 split.Whats the difference ? The article never goes into the differences between the two. Neo liberalism at it's core is a model of capitalism, it's not simply a political preference, Obama was a neo liberal, the same with Pelosi. Neo liberalism has been the dominate model of capitalism for the 40 odd years, so what the hell is establishment politics, if it isn't neoliberalism ?
The overall point of the article seem true enough, the progressive wing simply don't have the numbers.
Yeah if anything the article was far too optimistic about the chances of progressives.Even worse for progressives then since that would make it an 80-20 split.
From a anyone but Trump perspective, I'm happy the primary is done.All will be in play imo. FL would've been a write off for the Dems if Sanders was the nominee. Biden is a bit more suited to do well there.
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Trump's win was a fluke. He capitalized on some bad press Hillary received 10 days prior to the election which saw polls tighten then on top of which won 3 key swing states very very narrowly. The stars and planets aligned for him in those last couple of weeks, but he's an extremely poor candidate and Biden probably will win this.Yeah those polls again.How did that work out for Hillary.
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I hear this from Trump supporters each time an unfavorable poll is posted.Yeah those polls again.How did that work out for Hillary.
Which is nearly all of them. Biden has led 23 out the last 24 national polls.I hear this from Trump supporters each time an unfavorable poll is posted.
Yep. If the polls are bad, the only remaining response would be to question the validity of polls.Which is nearly all of them. Biden has led 23 out the last 24 national polls.
It's a win win for them. Trump vs 'Nothing will fundamentally change'
that's sexist!! stop the bernie bro toxic rhetoricsnake
She was actually sixty something just before the election, not 78% like Biden is now. She also struggled in a head-to-head vs Bernie, while Biden totally annihilated him. Biden is a much better/electable candidate than Hillary.Yeah those polls again.How did that work out for Hillary.
Bernie in swing states would have been totally destroyed. It is absurd to think that Bernie does worse than Biden in leftish states Massachusetts or Minessota, but somehow it is gonna do better than him in tossup states where the centrists and GOP are stronger.All will be in play imo. FL would've been a write off for the Dems if Sanders was the nominee. Biden is a bit more suited to do well there.
For me it's what he stands for .Could someone explain why Biden is not popular among people?