If I were to guess, they will need to resort to some form of play off among these sides, and the same to decide relegation.
Could they void the PL due to the Coronavirus? | No | Resuming June 17th
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Yes other Euro games were played to empty stadiums that week, i dont recall any outcry by Liverpool before that match when they needed a full Anfield to turn around that tie. So now they got beat its a disgrace
They will not pay if they do not have a product - and viewers will want their money back.
And I guess for the TV broadcasters it is less important which clubs play in the first league - the most interesting for them (apart from Schalke, but they will probably make it somehow) will survive...
I think whatever the Dutch league decide will be the model. They are looking to do this tomorrow. If they do that, then put it through to UEFA and it gets agreed, then that will be what other leagues follow.
Which is why UEFA should stay clear and allow the various leagues to decide on their own, the situation is bad enough as it is.
It might be the start of leagues officially announcing they will finish.
however, why would the decision that is right for the Dutch league by implemented by other leagues. We can see throughout the world, every country is doing things differently. This is be no different.
There's far too many complications. Who plays who, why is it more fair, and there will still be a large number of matches that needs to be organized.
We won't accept CL qualification unless it has bee earned legitimately. You can quote me on this.
We're United and
Yeah, I've changed my mind. I do not wish to be quoted.
Thanks.
Thanks.
I only think this because the Dutch league is even more complicated than the PL and if UEFA agree to it, then everyone will have a blueprint.
If the tournament can't be complete and we are gifted the trophy yes, otherwise I don't think so.
I see your point, and think your right that there is more thought that needs to go into Holland in respect of who wins. I just think each country will make their own decisions.
Yep.The most glorious silver lining of this situation.
Their best case scenario: a hollow check mark in the history books and shouting YAWN from their windows.
Worst case: losing the title creates a complete implosion of mentality and identity. Mané goes to Real and VVD/Firmino/Salah all past their peaks in a team which will take another 30 years to recover.
Noone will give it a second's praise as people will just care that the virus has gone, and football is back.
It'll wipe one of the finest title wins in a long time out of memories, and despite the massive lead, people will still be all "well, you got awarded it, you didn't actually win it" which is quite hilarious really, but it is what football fans do!
Like when fans blindly argue their player is the best in the league, and refuse to give anyone else any praise whatever the situation.
Very unlikely, but a voiding would make that Stevie G slip look like absolutely nothing in the scheme of comedic blowouts!
If the league does end up voided and the Dippers do not win the league, this will literally be me as I rock up outside my Dipper friends houses in my car.
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The clue is in his username!
Point taken and that was well dodgy at the time. It was a stupid rule that the winners didn't qualify automatically but we didn't go on to win it anyway, which looking back with the benefit of hindsight may not have been a bad thing.didn’t Liverpool qualify for the CL when they weren’t entitled to, and the rules were changed to accommodate them?
I don’t need to make up a friend.
At that time one of the concerns was that no more than 4 teams from the same country could be represented. As it turned out Everton made sure that wasn't an issue by getting beat in the qualifying round anyway.
UEFA hasn’t said anything how they are going to conclude CL and EL if no further matches take place.
Lets just assume they'll give it to Liverpool
Ok I see how this works now. I'll tell my friend.
It's wishful thinking on my part because I live there but why don't they move the league to the countries that are on the verge of opening up such as Australia and New Zealand?. The logistics would be a nightmare and the governments of those would be reluctant but If UK is unlikely to open up for next 6 months than they can probably do something like move all the personnel there, quarentine them for 14 days and restart the league. I'm now going to bed at 3:30 am fantasizing about this incredibly unlikely scenario.
Thats the sensible way to look at things to be honest.
If all the other competitions are being played out (big if) then i don't see why they would scrap a competition with only 3 one off rounds left (7 games) that could be played out in 1 week.
Is playing the FA Cup final with no fans any more ridiculous than playing the CL or EL finals with no fans?
Didn't you know that at Anfield they do everything in the right and proper way?!I suppose everyone queues in a nice orderly fashion when leaving at Anfield do they? 30k of people all leaving at the same time, pushing, showing, all trying to get out. Sounds like a great idea.
I do think we will see a staged return to full capacity ( I suppose you could start with games at the Eithad first) but it will need to be as safe for 30k people as for 60k people due to interactions in getting into the ground, getting out and getting on transport. Effectively it will be a PR exercise, as just having 50% of the crowd would clearly spread the virus.
how is not obvious that If you need to wear gloves, masks and not touch anything to watch a football match - the simple answer is not to go.
Do you really trust the typical football supporter to actually wash their hands when they go for a piss, not to jump up and down and hug people when someone scores, not to have spit coming out of their mouths when they are abusing the opposition. I don’t.
From the question asked, We can all see that your friend is a Liverpool fan - his/her IQ is rather weak.
Now, now no need for that. Criticise the post, not the posters imaginary friend.
Can only think it would be more acceptable to hold fixtures on neutral grounds like St Georges Park and Wembley so you cut that but I agree it's not been adequately explained yet what would happen if player broke their leg or had concussion as they'd obviously need to go to hospital.
Depends what european finals are held. You saw in Baku last season for europa how souless it was for the few who travelled.
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It's less complicated than trying to base it on current standings, where Sheffield have a game in hand and can go above us, where Chelsea could have ended outside the top 4, and so on. A play off among teams that had a feasible chance of top 4 would at least resolve the uncertainty there - i.e. limit it to say 4 teams, Wolves, Sheffield, Chelsea and Manchester United. Sure they need to draw a line somewhere and that's complicated, but it's less questionable than taking a snapshot as is.
Im not sure I’m following mate. If there’s no fans in attendance what difference does it make where the match is held.
BCD games all have strange atmospheres. If the FA Cup is played out it doesn’t necessarily have to be held at Wembley.
I wasn't advocating starting football up again with fans immediately. I'm talking about the time when, once it's considered safe again to have spectators, that'll (hopefully) happen in different phases and the first one will be limited capacity and, or so I'd hope at least, orderly waiting in line. Can't have all those people entering the stadium all at once, that's just not gonna happen anymore in the near future. They'll figure out solutions imo.
Chief health official in Italy dosen't think covid would spread through football when it resumes.
Also moving end of season to August 2nd.
interesting development in Scotland that will have implications for all leagues...
Uefa added that if a league were to be ended early, then domestic organisers- in Scotland's case, the SPFL - will select teams to compete in next season's European competitions based on sporting merit and "on objective, transparent and non-discriminatory principles".
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52396490
So up to the individual country to decide who plays in Europe.
The two conditions where it’s acceptable to finish a league early are:
Uefa added that if a league were to be ended early, then domestic organisers- in Scotland's case, the SPFL - will select teams to compete in next season's European competitions based on sporting merit and "on objective, transparent and non-discriminatory principles".
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52396490
So up to the individual country to decide who plays in Europe.
The two conditions where it’s acceptable to finish a league early are:
- Existence of an official order prohibiting sports events so that the domestic competitions cannot be completed before a date that would make it possible to complete the current season in good time before the next season to start.
- Insurmountable economic problems which make finishing the season impossible because it would put at risk the long-term financial stability of the domestic competition and/or clubs.
Is this guy for real we already know we are talking about 200 people needed per game in most countries.
if they are anywhere near it can spread, then they go home to people who could have it, etc.
I’m not saying football can’t restart with right testing, but the idea it won’t spread in football matches even bcd?
I assume Serie A players will be in training camps/grounds while they play out the games although of course they'll still be staff at those places.
OK I see that part now, so they are going to keep everyone isolated completely? OK I see that might work in principle as long as those people cannot come into contact with anyone. Like I have said elsewhere what happens when 5,6,7,8 players in a team catch it? Or an official or family member dies because they do it. Id love to see the corporate insurance policy for that.
It's not. UEFA are more or less trying to force leagues to let the current standings be the final position unless it can be completed
Basing it on current standings is piss easy, you just do it.
For a play off, why would you only include Chelsea's 4th position . There's 27 points left to play for (30, for Arsenal). Arsenal are 13 points behind Leicester, but they still have to play them. Win the game in hand and win the game against Leicester and it's down to 7 points, while Leicester have to play Manchester United, Sheffield United and Tottenham.
Leicester: Bournemouth - Arsenal - Everton - Brighton - Man Utd - Sheffield U - Crystal Palace - Spurs - Watford
They can easily lose 5 out of those matches..
Leicester in 3rd aren't safe.
Essentially you'd have to involve Leicester, Chelsea, United, Sheffield, Tottenham, Arsenal, Wolves...
The amount of ifs and buts makes a playoff very difficult to sort out.
It sounds good on paper, and it is their job and they are being well compensated for it, but we're talking about people being away from their families for about two months (including training before the season restarts). I doubt it's a reasonable thing to ask, especially right now.
IMO we should be prepared to be without football until 2021. Doctors and scientists still need time to study and understand how to threat that thing.
Just scrap this season and try to return in August 2021 with 2021-2022 season. Don't even try to have 2020-21 season.
Just scrap this season and try to return in August 2021 with 2021-2022 season. Don't even try to have 2020-21 season.
Do that a 70%+ of teams would go bust minimum. Now way is that happening in a million years.