What’s going on with you? We paid £36m for Martial. This is insanely higher. It’s three times the amount or €100m more!
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Transfermarkt says 54 million.
Aye with all the potential add-ons and this is 150million!
You're arguing that add ons don't count for Martial but then include them in this deal
Nah they will just burn
No you are.You're arguing that add ons don't count for Martial but then include them in this deal
Yes if you believe everything written on twitter
No, I just quickly looked at transfermarkt for his transfer fee and you claimed that he cost less than I stated. You then claimed we were going to pay 150 Million (euros) which would include bonuses for Fati.
You absolutely did don't be a hypocrite
You can relax anyway because it was rejected as Barca want the release clause to let him go according to Castles.
You said it was a similar fee to Martial and quoted 54million including the add-ons.No, I just quickly looked at transfermarkt for his transfer fee and you claimed that he cost less than I stated. You then claimed we were going to pay 150 Million (euros) for Fati.
You absolutely did
You can relax anyway because it was rejected as Barca want the release clause to let him go according to Castles.
Fati is 150million including the add-ons.
Are you gaslighting me?
Still have somefaith in Duncan Castles, but might be naive
I was unaware that our deal from Martial included bonuses. Like I said I just looked it up.
You didn't want to include bonuses in the Martial deal to make him sound less expensive and include them to make Fati sound more expensive.
Has proven connections to Mendes though doesn't he.
We ended up paying £43.2m for Martial (he failed to hit 2/3 clauses).
Unless the fee for Fati is full of clauses then it would be a crazy offer.
Unless the fee for Fati is full of clauses then it would be a crazy offer.
What’s the equivalent of ~£45 million in today’s inflated market? Martial was 2015 and prices have increased a bit since then. In 2015 ADM was a British transfer record at £56 million I think.
£89 Million would be a decent chunk of money to spend on a 17 y/o though. Would be the Joao Felix of 2020.
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Good player prior to his injury but....
Does he want to play for Manchester United, or would he just be joining because he can't get in the Barca starting 11 yet? If Barca is his dream then that is not the type of player we are looking for. We are talking about a kid who has been there since he was 10. The only way I would want him is if the Sancho deal doesn't go through this year and we could get him on loan for a year...
I agree with the sentiment but I'd say the same for Sancho and most foortballers these days.
I think what he is arguing is that we didn't originally pay that for Martial. We paid just over 30m for him (which to me seemed high at the time for an unknown kid) when we got him. If he turned out to be a dud we wouldn't have paid anything more. As it turns out, he's been good so we have had to pay extra in add ons...You're arguing that add ons don't count for Martial but then include them in this deal
I understood him fine. He was arguing that Martial cost 36 million initially but Ansu would cost 150 million when it would be 100 million.
Gotcha...either way....100m would be about 75m too much for Ansu...
Matic, McTominay, Fred, Pogba, Bruno + Garner and Pereira. Why would we ever need Tolisso? Especially when we need a CB, RW, and CF.
He’s worth more than 25 Million. In this market I think a good price is like ~£50 million
Castles is proven wind up merchant. He doesnt know shit. I'd take those fraud Reddit ITK's more seriously.
These Tolisso rumours don't seem to be going away. Actually, our links to midfielders in general don't seem to be going away, which is strange given we 1) should be prioritising other positions 2) seem pretty well stacked in that area.
Probably not 89m! And we have no idea what the markets are right now due to the pandemic, which is why I think this "offer" is BS.
Joao Felix is definitely a strange transfer, can't see many clubs forking out £89m up front for a player with less than 30(?) games - could definitely see £89m with add ons included.
But hey, it would be like someone tying to buy Greenwood, would we accept £89m for him right now? Absolutely not.
If any club had offered Barca 150m for a player who can barely get a game for them they'd have driven him to the nearest airport that was open and shoved him on a plane within hours.
Absolutely ridiculous rumour. Pure and utter nonsense.
Absolutely ridiculous rumour. Pure and utter nonsense.
Not twisting your words at all. You've even repeated yourself so I'm double sure. English players (or any players in their home country) are worse because they'll 'take advantage' of... something.
Would you like to clarify specifically what
'immature and irresponsible' stuff he will 'continue' to do if we sign him?
Seriously mental stuff.
I see comments like these and have to ask which position should we prioritise. Bear in mind Sancho is our no.1 priority
For what? He hasn't done anything. You don't pay 50m for potential. Besides, if he's that good Barca isn't selling. And if he does go for that price then Barca is probably having a laugh...
Barca don’t want to sell though, they rejected the supposed bid
And yes, you certainly do pay for potential!
exactly. I suppose the flip of that is the time Adnan J broke through and there were rumours that PSG wanted to sign him for £40 million. He was doing really well for us and we promptly signed him up to a new deal. obviously with hindsight we were silly not to take the money While his stock was highest but big clubs aren’t in the business of selling their best prospects. Who knows, our scouts might be right and in 2 years Fati is the next Messi or he just as easily could pull an Adnan. On what I’ve seen Barca would be silly to refuse £100-150 million for him and we would be crazy to offer. We’ve been linked to so many players by decent sources over the last few months. It’s hard to keep up at this stage.
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Not that much. If he were to go for that much it would completely destroy the transfer market. It's one thing for a young player who is a first team regular to go for that much. We are talking about a kid who is a sub at best and has scored a grand total of 4 goals. If that makes you worth close to 100m then imagine what Bojan Krkic was worth at the same age...Barca don’t want to sell though, they rejected the supposed bid
And yes, you certainly do pay for potential!
Exactly, big clubs have the luxury taking the risk of rejection big sums for their emerging stars.
Thats probably the only position we should be prioritising to be honest.
If we get a midfielder, then it should be Bellingham, meaning we can loan him back to Birmingham. Doesnt make sense for an established midfielder to come here for the reasons I stated in my first post.
Could Van Der Beek be signed instead of Bellingham but we still get both Grealish & Sancho
Apparently It's Sancho and Van Der Beek vs Grealish.
Bellingham seems to be some sort of bet on the future.
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We have quantity in midfield but little quality. Also the future of Lingard Pereira Matic Mata and Pogba are uncertain. Better to secure someone now instead of only when they leave
In a word.... No.
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