In many cases it's not a matter of 'being awake' or becoming aware, though. Most of them have been told about this over and over, and many actively choose to ignore or deny it. Speaking from experience there, as others can surely do too.
So what do you believe RLB's motives were?
Netanyahu. Im pro Palestinians not getting murdered and pro Israelis and Palestinians sharing the same land equally. Im not for the state of Israel as it is now.
Yes, the decorating. My grandmother's kitchen was also painted in magnolia.
Right, right, right... weird.
And a lot of those moves (immobilisation locks) are derived from Aikido.
So the fact that the IDF are clearly demonstrating the kneel on the head technique to another police force doesn't set any alarm bells ringing?
The amnesty report that even they have retracted.
Amnesty have not retracted anything. The report still stands, as it was completely factual and transparently sourced. They have clarified that, contrary to some misrepresentations, they have never cited evidence of Israeli police specifically teaching the kneeling restraint technique.
So an actress in an interview should look into the sourcing of every report she reads. As it is, the *fact* that training including chokeholds have been trained by Israeli police to US police is documented elsewhere too, including in this thread. I wonder why the police where I stay were forbidden by civilian oversight from training from this specific country.
I have never seen a single criticism wrt Palestine, of white phosphorus, civilian bombing, blockade, exclusionary citizenship, whatever, is all anti-semitic. First three because others do it, so it's being singled out, and last because that questions the existence. The pillars of criticism of Israeli poicy towards Palestine are anti-semitic.
Keir Starmer did the only right and decent thing.
If the relation is that loose, then I have to assume that anti Israel is de facto antisemitism.
No familiarity to be honest. You do realize that there is an attacker with a knife, don't you?
They did not retract the report at all.
They've not retracted anything, they said it doesn't say kneeling which it doesn't but no one is disputing it's a poorly evidenced claim.
Yeah, bad judgement, clumsy on her part. If it is true that she refused to apologise and retract, then maybe he had no other choice.
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I don't care if he has a knife. The assertion is that the IDF train the knee on the neck technique, this clearly demonstrates that they do. I'm saying no more or less than that it's plausible that the American police received the same training. Therefore the article making the claim that the American police learned this technique from the IDF a jump but certainly not unlikely.
Agreed. It is quite transparent.
Well, following that grandsome conclusion you can safely assume that IDF are also conducting shooting trainings. So by that logic, you could say that it's plausible that the American police have learned that thechnique from the IDF as well
In short, there are two rational explanations for that statement (bringing up any relation between IDF and american police because the evidence is anecdoctical, at best): a) pure stupidity b) antisemitism. In both cases, it was a good decision to get rid of her.
If only Labour had an effective leader we could all get behind...
Nobody has claimed that Israel killed George Floyd. That would be a tin foil hat conspiracy theory. What is being said is that far right militarized police forces are trading tips and best practices to aid in oppressing their citizens, which is absolutely true.Well, following that grandsome conclusion you can safely assume that IDF are also conducting shooting trainings. So by that logic, you could say that it's plausible that the American police have learned that thechnique from the IDF as well
In short, there are two rational explanations for that statement (bringing up any relation between IDF and american police because the evidence is anecdoctical, at best): a) pure stupidity b) antisemitism. In both cases, it was a good decision to get rid of her.
What’s your point?
I think his point is that he is still friends with someone who is an anti-Semite? Hard to tell, really.
Because they are antisemites. That's the reason.
Basically that from personal experience the idea of anti-Semitism being common place among the hard left is no myth.
Except that it would not apply for them - for many and obvious reasons. It‘s a lame argument. Similar to „saying the n-word is not racist because then the black community would be racist as well“. Lame.
The Labour Party ft Sir Keir Starmer have rather given the game away about this "investigation" into the Labour Leaks with their response to that article. Gone are the refusals to comment on the messages sent, replaced by shrugged shoulders in word form.
No.
‘I have proven that it is not a myth courtesy of two personal anecdotes.’
We’ll see. That quote was specifically in regards to the abusive messages about the leader’s office. If they adopt that line with the claims about actively working against the party’s election, stifling investigations into anti-Semitism and the other damning stuff then Starmer is a farce. I won’t hold my breath expecting anything other than a whitewash.
Yep. It’s just attenuating the label of any meaning whatsoever.
I am sorry, you are using the same argument there as white supremacists would do. I am sorry that I have to be so blatant.
If the defence for messages like wishing someone died in a fire is that it's fine because nobody was supposed to read it, it's not the greatest of starts is it?
Would you be so kind as to elaborate upon this pretty strong remark?
Can't say. She's a politician and an individual, I know very little about the former and nothing about the latter.
