Precisely, climate change policies reach across borders , but actions stop at the borders, clearly the EU feels this is the way to go!
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
So to be clear, you had a problem with the EU allegedly taking decisions for the UK. And now you precisely have a problem with the EU because climate change policies reach across borders and each country is free to elaborate its own policies?
Good guy to have on your side then!
So you wanted to leave the EU because you can predict the future. This is non sense and UK could oppose anytime to that kind of advance
Trust BoJo et al. to combat climate change? 
He would make everyone drink fossil fuels if it enriched the Bullingdon Dining Club cabal.
He would make everyone drink fossil fuels if it enriched the Bullingdon Dining Club cabal.
I thought this thread would be all doom and gloom. Matic has made things quite entertaining. I think he should write that book.
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I'm sure the BBC will be all over this today. Holds breath.
So Farage and Vote Leave stating report says no Russian interference in the Referendum. Is this true? If so, how the hell?
Yeah I have seen that too, seems hard to believe.
Doubt it, they're just out there trying to downplay the outcome and get their message in people's heads first.
Apparently its been leaked and says no interference in EU ref but Scottish independent one had interference.
Dead Cat tactics already in play with the public sector pay rise story.
Ridicoulous if this is the case. The amount of Russian money the Tories have received is substantial.
Seemingly doesn't include junior doctors or GPs (ie most doctors) or nurses either....
Neither does it for us local government staff.
Thank you for your vote of confidence, don't think many on here would agree, they don't want to face the future, its a case of ;
"lets stay were we are in these nice warm EU caves, we can even draw on the walls, twelve shining things on a blue background, gives you that warm feeling and keeps away sabre-toothed tigers, so I'm told, pity that man Junker the left the caves, he was the only one who knew how to light what he called a fire"
It doesn’t say that at all, it says they don’t know because the intelligence agencies weren’t asked to investigate it and find out.
No, you can instead head out into a brave new future full of sunny uplands where the US healthcare insurance corporations buy up the NHS and the US flood the U.K. food market with shit. Congrats, hope you enjoy.
Yep, it does, I was just quoting the leaks from early in the morning
Ah sorry, didn’t notice the time stamp.
I don't think you understood me. I was entertained by your flights of fantasy.
I was confused at first but I thought it was hilarious when you revealed your whole opinion was based on an imagined future.
Yes he's like a red rag to a bull with Leavers!
No I didn't want to leave, but now things are changing anyway, the effects of climate change already underway (non-reversible) /and the legacy of Covid are already happening and Brexit will help us to make more independent and rational and timely decisions that affect us as a off shore island, rather than as part of the mainland mass. The EU is (so we are told) essentially a trading block, with little political emphasis, but if in future its going to spend trillions of euros, it will want value for money and focused on the main needs of the larger countries. At the moment you are right any country can veto any policy, but how long can that last, when regular wildfires fires are ravaging country sides in Spain, Germany and of course France, when freak weather storms floods the Netherlands/Belgium every year or two years and there is nowhere to run the water off unless you start flooding parts of France, etc. Majority voting has to come and the little guys will pay a heavy price, Presently Germany might bail out their economies, but it wont be able to afford to change the landscape of these countries without major inputs from the other rich EU countries who will have their own devils to fight!
The only way for the EU to go is as a federal state , a United States of Europe, all trading in euro's only. The Federal State then can force the issues, it will have to to survive.
I understand, I hope lots of others are when I publish!
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Except of course the UK was one of the larger countries whose interests would have been protected. We were never one of the ‘little guys’ in Europe.
As for independence, now the Tories have just voted down NHS and food protections, we’re going to be dancing to the Americans tune. Doesn’t sound particularly independent to me.
In terms of land mass we were, but in population density we were 'big' guys, etc. we can now spend our 8 billion on ourselves.... yiphee!
Its not about independence its about alignment, (and not just trade) Trump or no Trump we will align with the USA, so will Australia, New Zealand, Canada, etc. other major nations outside the EU (e.g. Nordic nations) will probably align with Russia if they are desperate for Gas & Oil, the rest because of Huawei with China. If the EU becomes the USE, it can have its own world power block, the first step is majority voting, but most of you on here see that as unlikely or miles off yet....really?
Who will the EU be enthralled to, if Russia wants to cut off its energy, China its technology and the USA having given the UK preferred 'nation status' for trade?
The Tories are about to have their cake and eat it. Lied lied lied about saving the nhs. Their long term plan is about to come into play and make a few of the old gang very rich indeed.
The idea that the EU would be ‘enthralled’ by anyone is laughable. The EU (pre-Brexit at least) had the largest economy in the world, world leading technology, and a population size that made it a match for any of the potential superpowers. The only area where it was weak was militarily, and then only because of the post-war reliance on the US, something that could and should be remedied quickly.
You really think Australia and NZ will align to the US? Why exactly? Because they’re white and speak English? You know who Australia’s biggest trade partners are? China and Japan.
they could start to remedy quickly (eg a new command and control structure and combined strategic procurement plus increasing budgets )... but given military procurement timetables and the delivery times associated with weapons systems and things like ships, planes etc its going to be a very long term not a quick fix...
I’m speaking relatively, but they’re also not starting from zero it’s worth adding. With the U.K. involved too, it’s a decent defense force to build upon.
Will you leave the UK and move to an EU country where people are actually elected if some unelected person were to run the UK? Dominic says hi.
I wonder what happens to the Tory hopes of a US trade deal if Biden wins in November.
Let's be honest 2021 is gonna make us pine for the sunny uplands of 2020 isn't it. Brexit is going to be a shitshow visible from space.
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If Trump wins , it will go something like .
Trump: Right sonny, no longer hiding behind your buddies in the EU. Now let's see - I hear that the UK currently sells more to the USA than the USA sells to the UK, now we can't have that can we. So Boris, I suggest that as the population is about 5 times bigger in the US than the UK , the amount of stuff the US sells to the UK will be 5 times what the UK sells to the US. So you can quit selling us your damned cars!! And buy our chicken, it's finger-dissolving good!
Just checked, not on the website at all.We probably have to put hunter on the books as a £50k a month consultant at network rail?
No, no, I'm too long in the tooth to move now, but I hope to see the 'sunny up lands' resulting from Brexit....actually I quite like some of the ideas Dominic comes up with, or at least he is credited with, oh dear what an admission ... I'll go and sit on the naughty step!
Need I say more, currently there is no chance of an EU army being formed for a trading block, (what are the going to do send gunboats up the river to force people to buy from them?) now if it was to became a Power Block, e.g. as the United States of Europe, it could join the super power group. France apparently would be quite willing to give up its seat on the UN Security Council to let the USE take its place.... as long as a Frenchman was the Commander-in-Chief.
They already do in the 'Five Eyes' Alliance
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Who told you that?