Paxi
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I’ll be honest I think the thread should just be locked and deleted. We don’t need it here, If you want to read and discuss mupdates just go onto reddit?This thread is supposed to be mindless tabloid-ish distractions, not arguing.
He attacked mine too.Oh mercy, mercy! Take my hands, my nose, my ears, but don't attack my post count, anything but that!
+2I'd actually agree with the poster above here.
If you wanna fantasise about it, do it on reddit. Lets not give them the exposure here.
For a place that doesn't push patreon on people, they've currently got a competition up for paid members only...
I wouldn't mess with him. He's been taking names over in the generals.He attacked mine too.
Banned from other forums he was.I wouldn't mess with him. He's been taking names over in the generals.
Feared by men, loved by women, revered by all.Banned from other forums he was.
To be fair at this point the sport2793 user is the one who is keeping this all going, for some reason he cares what other people think about his ITK oracles. He doesn't need to keep trying to prove these ITKs are right using incredibly fragile logic, but chooses to!I don't get why people converse about this shite when they don't believe in it.
It's even gotten very heated at times, what's wrong with you guys? If you don't believe in anyone or anything, just wait for the official club announcements and get on with your lives, for fecks sake.
You just defined what muppetry is, which is the whole point of this thread. It's not about proving the ITKs right but about saying how no transfer info is rock solid until the actual club statement is out. Posters seem to hang onto Romano as if he's a god but any person can point to tweets where he has been very wrong previously. Di Marzio was the go to guy before that but he had a relatively big fall from grace. Duncan Castles is generally regarded as reliable when it comes to Mendes and Mourinho related news. Why then does he like to peddle nonsensical reports out there saying that reports of United bidding 100 million pounds for Ansu Fati are true. Transfer season is silly season and this affects all info related to it, it all really is speculation until it is final. That's why I noted the Simon Stone tweet from earlier, highlighting that even respected football journalists who work for the BBC engage in such speculation.To be fair at this point the sport2793 user is the one who is keeping this all going, for some reason he cares what other people think about his ITK oracles. He doesn't need to keep trying to prove these ITKs are right using incredibly fragile logic, but chooses to!
That's a very interesting point regarding the difference between general trade rumors/reporting in the MLB/NBA etc. and in world football.You just defined what muppetry is, which is the whole point of this thread. It's not about proving the ITKs right but about saying how no transfer info is rock solid until the actual club statement is out. Posters seem to hang onto Romano as if he's a god but any person can point to tweets where he has been very wrong previously. Di Marzio was the go to guy before that but he had a relatively big falling from grace. Duncan Castles is generally regarded as reliable when it comes to Mendes and Mourinho related news. Why then does he like to peddle nonsensical reports out there saying that reports of United bidding 100 million pounds for Ansu Fati are true. Transfer season is silly season and this affects all info related to it, it all really is speculation until it is final. That's why I noted the Simon Stone tweet from earlier, highlighting that even respected football journalists who work for the BBC engage in such speculation.
With the amount of misinformation that supposedly respected football journalists are given/promote either wittingly or unwittingly, this sort of ITK activity is inevitable. I am an avid follower of the NBA too; you never see any ITK info or muppetry related to the NBA despite having a significant following. It's because you have top-class journalists such as Adrian Wojnarowski that have well-placed sources with little reason to misinform. They tell you everything you would care to know right away and it's 100% correct. Football journalists in comparison are dirt, even Romano falls short relative to journalists in other sports.
I'm not mentioning any of the muppetry info in the other transfer threads, which should be restricted to highly vetted, club statement type, information. It's hilarious to see how folks such as yourself are taking this thread so seriously, to the point that the thread should be "locked and deleted to restrict the forum to serious debate". As if this forum is a COVID-19 public health message board and "misinformation" being spread here could lead to loss of human life. No post here is that important, especially any that has my name on it .
Ya it is an interesting difference and you bring up good points as to why it may be the case. I think as the CAS Man City FFP ruling recently showed, there really isn't a strong governing body in world football that can enforce anything, which allows for transfers and other dealings to resemble the "wild west" in many respects. An environment like this probably gives an incentive to clubs and agents to leak misinformation to gain an upper hand in negotiations. The fact that United hired someone like Neil Ashton, a true exponent of The Sun and unverified gossip, to run their press relations highlights this fairly well. In contrast, the NBA is a tightly run ship, with a strong commissioner, salary caps and specific rules for business that can be conducted between teams. In a professional environment like that, it may even be disadvantageous to try and spread misinformation as this may reduce other teams' and players' willingness to engage with you on trades/contracts. While I cannot call the MLB a tightly run ship based on the utter disaster that their COVID handling has become, I do think a similar principle applies to that league also.That's a very interesting point regarding the difference between general trade rumors/reporting in the MLB/NBA etc. and in world football.
Might have something to do with the transfer system and to a much less-involved degree the legalized betting system.
You will never understand MuppetryI’ll be honest I think the thread should just be locked and deleted. We don’t need it here, If you want to read and discuss mupdates just go onto reddit?
This forum is usually a place you can come and read genuine information, we already have the transfer tweets thread and individual threads where you can discuss about a player.
So far I’ve yet to be shown any evidence that they’ve got correct that would seem ITK information. It’s all wishy washy half assed statements that can neither confirm or deny anything.
That is perfectly reasonable. But part of the fun with transfers is the silliness of it all...this is already restricted to this thread, so I don’t see the harm in it.I’ll be honest I think the thread should just be locked and deleted. We don’t need it here, If you want to read and discuss mupdates just go onto reddit?
This forum is usually a place you can come and read genuine information, we already have the transfer tweets thread and individual threads where you can discuss about a player.
So far I’ve yet to be shown any evidence that they’ve got correct that would seem ITK information. It’s all wishy washy half assed statements that can neither confirm or deny anything.
TBF @Adam-Utd's posts in here are a perfect example of the reasonable skepticism that threads like this can use.You will never understand Muppetry
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It's just another conduit for potentially accurate info. In any profession there are related and or twice/thrice removed related professions that can glean info from happenings in their own field. There are indications that these ITKs have genuine info from time to time. That's it. Nothing more nothing less.I’ll be honest I think the thread should just be locked and deleted. We don’t need it here, If you want to read and discuss mupdates just go onto reddit?
This forum is usually a place you can come and read genuine information, we already have the transfer tweets thread and individual threads where you can discuss about a player.
So far I’ve yet to be shown any evidence that they’ve got correct that would seem ITK information. It’s all wishy washy half assed statements that can neither confirm or deny anything.
Hmm, I dont know if I would class reasonable skepticism as saying this:TBF @Adam-Utd's posts in here are a perfect example of the reasonable skepticism that threads like this can use.
Not sure why he's so deeply emotional about it. Maybe a muppet stole a watch from him once?You’ve been absolutely done over pal
The mods are all in collusion and will cover for their golden geese whenever they make a mistake. What a joke.
For your own sake I hope you stop paying for their patroen, you’ll learn nothing more than you can’t already find online.
Didn't see that one. The more recent ones are pretty decent.Hmm, I dont know if I would class reasonable skepticism as saying this:
Not sure why he's so deeply emotional about it. Maybe a muppet stole a watch from him once?
Ya you're probably right about that, people are likely entrenched in their views regardless and there's no point in adding fuel to endless arguments.Didn't see that one. The more recent ones are pretty decent.
For what it's worth, you've been handling a lot of unwarranted abuse like a champ.
Remember, you don't have to engage all the people who are attacking the idea of the thread for 'the ITKs not being 100% right on dates/figures and clearly not having ties to clubs'. Anyone who can't already imagine what's going on behind the scenes there - whether or not it's true - isn't going to get it even when it's explained.
Now you've done it. Just wait and watch how you are bombarded by comments by the Crusaders on here who are gonna convince you that ITKs getting things right is the same as astrology or voodoo.So far this year the ITK's have been more accurate than 90% of all football journalists, and you can go back in time and vet their info. Thats why I follow them.
The caf has glorified their “muppetry” for years, yet somehow an external site having fun with it as seen as a bad thing.Not sure why people are so triggered by this ITK stuff, just don’t go in the thread, it will help you immensely.
If you are a normal grown adult, you will understand that 99.9% of it is garbage.
Muppetry has never been all about the ITKs, that's the problem.The caf has glorified their “muppetry” for years, yet somehow an external site having fun with it as seen as a bad thing.
The subreddit is fine, I really don’t get the big deal. I follow it a lot cause it’s entertaining, and they’re definitely no worse than most of the twitter garbage, outside of a select few. They’ve got most of this Sancho transfer spot on, I’m convinced at least one of the ITK’s there is legit but it’s difficult to say. The direction of transfers can change so much that even Ed Woodward himself could post as an ITK and some things would be different to what he said.
Nah, astrology and voodoo are more believableNow you've done it. Just wait and watch how you are bombarded by comments by the Crusaders on here who are gonna convince you that ITKs getting things right is the same as astrology or voodoo.
I’ve found the comments on the subreddit are a good place to look, just for a lot of random muppetry. A lot of people post rumours and gossip there but everyone knows to take it all with a pinch of salt and enjoy. The guy that found the same plane that Bruno flew in on was in Ibiza, where Sancho happened to be at the time, a particular recent highlight.Muppetry has never been all about the ITKs, that's the problem.
When it becomes a chore like this thread and we see people back and forthing on the validity of the info, they it's so far off what being a Muppet is, it's not even fun anymore.
I just want to get my giddy on and enjoy the ride.
Leave the thread if you don't like it. That applies to other people, too. It states clearly over the reply box what this thread is about.I’ll be honest I think the thread should just be locked and deleted. We don’t need it here, If you want to read and discuss mupdates just go onto reddit?
This forum is usually a place you can come and read genuine information, we already have the transfer tweets thread and individual threads where you can discuss about a player.
So far I’ve yet to be shown any evidence that they’ve got correct that would seem ITK information. It’s all wishy washy half assed statements that can neither confirm or deny anything.
Come on mate, you wouldn't go into a thread where everyone was discussing how much they loved Santa Claus and start telling them all that he's fake - let the kids have their fun!I’ll be honest I think the thread should just be locked and deleted. We don’t need it here, If you want to read and discuss mupdates just go onto reddit?
This forum is usually a place you can come and read genuine information, we already have the transfer tweets thread and individual threads where you can discuss about a player.
So far I’ve yet to be shown any evidence that they’ve got correct that would seem ITK information. It’s all wishy washy half assed statements that can neither confirm or deny anything.
It's not the harm of believing rumours, it's the more the fact they're honey trapping people with information and financially benefitting from it. That doesn't sit right with me at all.That is perfectly reasonable. But part of the fun with transfers is the silliness of it all...this is already restricted to this thread, so I don’t see the harm in it.
No moreso than reading the rumors section of a website anyway.
Yes. G5 I think they are referred to.Did any of these ITKs say anything at all about Gabriel or Badiashile before anyone in mainstream media did?
Those ones, I might listen to.
It's not the harm of believing rumours, it's the more the fact they're honey trapping people with information and financially benefitting from it. That doesn't sit right with me at all.
By all means if they want to believe them and these kids want to be "internet famous" then fair play to them, but the moment they start asking for money I think we have a responsibility to be cautious.
That includes our site introducing them to it by means of this thread. I'm sure most people will be sensible and take it with a pinch of salt, but others that are "die hard muppets" will be desperate for any extra info they can get.
Anyways this'll be my last post in the thread, I've seen nothing to make me believe any of them are genuine so far so i'll stop giving it attention.
Again, we are not charging people for info. We do not financially benefit from it. Please stop these libellous mistruths.Love a good muppet (as you well know)
But please nobody pay for info from them.
This should always be just about fun.
If these people are actually working for clubs and agencies then by paying them for confidential information you could be unwittingly committing a criminal offence.
No true muppet would make another muppet pay for info. I didn’t with my one bit of news and I don’t see why anyone not looking to exploit would either.
Anyway muppet head on SANCHO IS SO ON TODAY!
Can any of the ITK reddit muppetier stuff be posted in this thread or would you rather it was just kept on thereAgain, we are not charging people for info. We do not financially benefit from it. Please stop these libellous mistruths.
A couple of tidbits get chucked to the patreon subscribers a little bit early, that is all. Patreon money goes to website and podcast hosting, giveaways, and at some point in the future, paying some content writers.
Also, we do not provide info ourselves. There are no NDAs or anything that we have signed. Don't work in any field even remotely related to football transfers.