Jadon Sancho| Staying at Dortmund for now

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We'll just have to wait then, Im totally convinced if we pay we will get him. Dortmund saying "he will stay" while they continue with negotiations means feck all.
Note that I will not claim he will definitely stay. Right now the odds seem higher that he stays in my opinion. For the most part of last season I would have expected him to move this summer though.
 

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How does "I can't comment on other teams players" mean this is on?
If there is still on going speculation about a player transfer that is even remotely true, Ole doesn't speak about it. It was the same with Wan-Bissaka, Maguire and Bruno before they signed as well.
 

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I wonder how bothered Sancho is about this? Don't get me wrong I think he would certaintly be happy to move to United if the two clubs agree a fee but not quite convinced he'd be pushing for one this season. He's 20-years-old and if he lives a professional life which by all means I expect that he does he's potentially got another 10-13 years of playing football at the highest level - he will with out a shadow of a doubt eventually move on from the Bundesliga and has plenty of time to do so. But right now he's the star man of the second biggest team in German football, regularly playing in the Champions League and is usually considered as a nailed on starter. He's already earning 190k a week so will likely be ok with waiting a year or two to be up there with the top players in the world salary. When you consider all that , I think it's fair to see why Sancho might not quite push for a move away from BVB this summer. I'm sure he knows United and potentially other huge clubs will still come calling next summer.
 

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Literally 30 new pages on this thread and nothing changed.

Take a break everyone. This is a full blown Saga.
 

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I wonder how bothered Sancho is about this? Don't get me wrong I think he would certaintly be happy to move to United if the two clubs agree a fee but not quite convinced he'd be pushing for one this season. He's 20-years-old and if he lives a professional life which by all means I expect that he does he's potentially got another 10-13 years of playing football at the highest level - he will with out a shadow of a doubt eventually move on from the Bundesliga and has plenty of time to do so. But right now he's the star man of the second biggest team in German football, regularly playing in the Champions League and is usually considered as a nailed on starter. He's already earning 190k a week so will likely be ok with waiting a year or two to be up there with the top players in the world salary. When you consider all that , I think it's fair to see why Sancho might not quite push for a move away from BVB this summer. I'm sure he knows United and potentially other huge clubs will still come calling next summer.
As a sportsperson your window of opportunity to make money is small. A good decade maybe? That’s without injuries. Think for example Gotze. He had the world at his feet at Dortmund. He just turned 28 and he doesn’t even have a club. Snacho will be one of the main men here as well. He will start here AND will earn more than whatever Dortmund are paying. So if given a chance he would prefer to move now than wait a year or two.
 

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So now I think this might reach Pogba levels. 30 pages a day for another 2 months and we’ll beat it.
 

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How desperate they are to make him look happy after some depressive looking pics earlier today.


"OK, Jadon, smile very brightly now."

 

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I started saying feck with the e in it yesterday. Definitely a sign that I need to give the place a break until October... over and out.
 

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So now I think this might reach Pogba levels. 30 pages a day for another 2 months and we’ll beat it.
We've briefed we are still in it. That's even after all the white noise of BVB. This has all the hallmarks of a protracted Pogba deal now. It's all about the structure of the deal.

We aren't briefing Simon peach on this if we've walked.
 

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70m upfront or 70m total? If it’s total then we can forget about signing him all together. I mean Villa are asking 70m for Grealish.
Im assuming that is 70m total. In which case, we should stop wasting our time
 

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70m upfront or 70m total? If it’s total then we can forget about signing him all together. I mean Villa are asking 70m for Grealish.
Never believe any number mentioned in tweets. People are grasping from anything they hear. It could be either and we never know until the window closes, even then it's not certain unless deal transpires.
 

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I don't get how people get to despise BVB for trying to actually KEEP their players?! (especially since usually many use their 'selling' against them)

Wouldn't United tell other clubs to feck off or play hardball too if someone poach their best players?


This really baffles me. Just madness because you don't get what YOU want.
I'm not really sure if you read the whole of my post.

As I said, if United get Sancho or not is really not the deciding factor for my opinion. This is just the second time in relatively quick succession Dortmund do this, and they're not doing wrong by United or Barca or whoever. They are well within their rights to ask for whatever ridiculous fee the might want. They're doing wrong by their players, who surely were promised that they could leave should a good offer arise.

Otherwise I don't think any of those young sought-after talents would have signed for Dortmund, as everyone knows they are a selling club with pretty much no ambition outside of CL qualification.

Or do you think Dembele, Sancho, Haaland etc. signed for them with a view of playing there indefinitely instead of Dortmund just being an attractive shop window?

Again, I really don't care if United get fleeced, we have the money after all, and if we don't want to pay up, so be it. Its just scummy from Dortmund imo to say one thing and then do another.
 
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How desperate they are to make him look happy after some depressive looking pics earlier today.


"OK, Jadon, smile very brightly now."

That is hilarious tbf, but if we sign him I'll be very disappointed if our twitter admin doesn't put out a picture of him in a United top with the same caption. Would be a massive missed opportunity.
 

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United: How much for Sancho?
BVB: 120. We don't want to sell, but we promised Jadon that we will if someone pays that.
United: Hmmm. We pay 50.
BVB: 120. You have time until 10.08. to pay or the deal is off.
United: 70. It's Corona-time. 120 is way too expensive, no one would ever pay that. We also don't care about your time limit or your feeder squad.
BVB: No.
United: Ok, we pay 100. 50 this year, 50 next year. You are a fecking selling club so stop trolling around.
BVB: No.
United: We pay 80. Another 40 if we win the UCL 3 times in a row and Sancho wins 3 Balon'Dor during that time.
BVB: No.

BVB: Time's up.
United: Ok ok, we pay 120, cash.
BVB: No. Time's up.

United: .... 130?
 

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I'm not really sure if you read the whole of my post.

As I said, if United get Sancho or not is really not the deciding factor for my opinion. This is just the second time in relatively quick succession Dortmund do this, and they're not doing wrong by United or Barca or whoever. They are well within their rights to ask for whatever ridiculous fee the might want. They're doing wrong by their players, who surely were promised that they could leave should a good offer arise.

Otherwise I don't think any of those young sought-after talents would have signed for Dortmund, as everyone knows they are a selling club with pretty much no ambition outside of CL qualification.

Or do you think Dembele, Sancho, Haaland etc. signed for them with a view of playing there indefinitely instead of Dortmund just being an attractive shop window?

Again, I really don't care if United get fleeced, we have the money after all, and if we don't want to pay up, so be it. Its just scummy from Dortmund imo to say one thing and then do another.
Would you specify what that means, exactly?
 

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United: How much for Sancho?
BVB: 120. We don't want to sell, but we promised Jadon that we will if someone pays that.
United: Hmmm. We pay 50.
BVB: 120. You have time until 10.08. to pay or the deal is off.
United: 70. It's Corona-time. 120 is way too expensive, no one would ever pay that. We also don't care about your time limit or your feeder squad.
BVB: No.
United: Ok, we pay 100. 50 this year, 50 next year. You are a fecking selling club so stop trolling around.
BVB: No.
United: We pay 80. Another 40 if we win the UCL 3 times in a row and Sancho wins 3 Balon'Dor during that time.
BVB: No.

BVB: Time's up.
United: Ok ok, we pay 120, cash.
BVB: No. Time's up.

United: .... 130?
What's with people laying out these imaginary conversations they have in their heads? I've seen it quite a bit lately. Bizarre.
 

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fecking saga.

I don't mind if we work on it and it drags as long as we get him. If we piss about too much and miss out on other targets, then I'd be pissed.
 

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As a sportsperson your window of opportunity to make money is small. A good decade maybe? That’s without injuries. Think for example Gotze. He had the world at his feet at Dortmund. He just turned 28 and he doesn’t even have a club. Snacho will be one of the main men here as well. He will start here AND will earn more than whatever Dortmund are paying. So if given a chance he would prefer to move now than wait a year or two.
I agree with all that , I'm just not totally convinced that Sancho at his age will be fully pushing for the move to go ahead in the way say a Bruno would be at 25. Time will tell of course but lets not forget it was his choice to go to Germany and leave Man City and with that in mind he might feel it's one season too early to fully push for a move back to England.
 

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I'm full blown pessimistic about this actually. I know Dortmund have said in the past about not selling and then ending up selling - but Dembele and Aubameyang both kicked up a fuss and Dortmund were forced to sell. Unless Sancho puts in a transfer request or plays up, I don't think they'll change their mind. It takes big balls for Zorc to say "he is staying ahead of next season - that is final" while thinking there's a chance he'd leave. It portrays the club poorly unless Sancho becomes a nuisance and they are forced to sell.

I can't see Sancho playing up.

Ergo - I think this one is dead in the water. One of the journalist tweet saying that we never actually agreed personal terms make it sound as if we're trying to save face by saying that it was much further than what people think and that we haven't actually bottled any transfer.
 

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United: How much for Sancho?
BVB: 120. We don't want to sell, but we promised Jadon that we will if someone pays that.
United: Hmmm. We pay 50.
BVB: 120. You have time until 10.08. to pay or the deal is off.
United: 70. It's Corona-time. 120 is way too expensive, no one would ever pay that. We also don't care about your time limit or your feeder squad.
BVB: No.
United: Ok, we pay 100. 50 this year, 50 next year. You are a fecking selling club so stop trolling around.
BVB: No.
United: We pay 80. Another 40 if we win the UCL 3 times in a row and Sancho wins 3 Balon'Dor during that time.
BVB: No.

BVB: Time's up.
United: Ok ok, we pay 120, cash.
BVB: No. Time's up.

United: .... 130?
Probably that will happen.
 

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Somebody asked here, why Bayern fans are watching and posting in this thread. I cannot answer for all of them, but for me the reason is pretty simple: This Dortmund team is just one Klopp away from being the best club in Germany, and potentially in Europe. The player material they have gathered, especially how young they are, if kept together, being added with two or three players, and under a great coach, they could be world beaters.


But Dortmund has traditionally made underwhelming choices when it came to managers, with the obvious exception of Jürgen Klopp. (Dortmund fans: Please correct me if I’m wrong!). This team today, under Klopp, could kick the shit out of Bayern, just like they did in the early 2010s. Hence, what’s happening with Sancho, who is next to Haaland the most promising player of this group, is absolutely of interest for Bayern fans.
 

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Somebody asked here, why Bayern fans are watching and posting in this thread. I cannot answer for all of them, but for me the reason is pretty simple: This Dortmund team is just one Klopp away from being the best club in Germany, and potentially in Europe. The player material they have gathered, especially how young they are, if kept together, being added with two or three players, and under a great coach, they could be world beaters.


But Dortmund has traditionally made underwhelming choices when it came to managers, with the obvious exception of Jürgen Klopp. (Dortmund fans: Please correct me if I’m wrong!). This team today, under Klopp, could kick the shit out of Bayern, just like they did in the early 2010s. Hence, what’s happening with Sancho, who is next to Haaland the most promising player of this group, is absolutely of interest for Bayern fans.
So what you are saying is you support someone (us) bringing these two players out of Germany.
We got'chu boo.
 

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So what you are saying is you support someone (us) bringing these two players out of Germany.
We got'chu boo.
Actually not. I would prefer to have Sancho and Halland being long term at Dortmund, simply to keep the league competitive. A real danger would be a great manager at Dortmund. But that won't happen... ;)
 
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United: How much for Sancho?
BVB: 120. We don't want to sell, but we promised Jadon that we will if someone pays that.
United: Hmmm. We pay 50.
BVB: 120. You have time until 10.08. to pay or the deal is off.
United: 70. It's Corona-time. 120 is way too expensive, no one would ever pay that. We also don't care about your time limit or your feeder squad.
BVB: No.
United: Ok, we pay 100. 50 this year, 50 next year. You are a fecking selling club so stop trolling around.
BVB: No.
United: We pay 80. Another 40 if we win the UCL 3 times in a row and Sancho wins 3 Balon'Dor during that time.
BVB: No.

BVB: Time's up.
United: Ok ok, we pay 120, cash.
BVB: No. Time's up.

United: .... 130?
Excellent fanfiction, reads like a 12 year old girl's Wattpad post about marrying Harry Styles.
 
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