Harry Maguire involved in incident with police in Greece - conviction nullified by appeal, full retrial pending

[SteveW]

Of course, there are drunk idiots from all countries. but English travelers are notorious. If you every been to one of the popular tourist destinations in Spain or Greece, you know what i'm talking about.

Absolutely, their mentality seems to go back a few hundreds years every time they leave England. Everywhere they go is new territory to conquer.

Obviously I'm generalising. The majority are fine but we've all encountered groups of drunk belligerent twats on holiday and 9 times out of 10 they turn out to be English.

 

[Paxi]

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Well I’d slap him too if said the word ‘soccer’. cnut.

 

[Squeaky Bumtime]

This guy becoming Man United captain after a few months at the club is a joke in itself. Give it to Rashford or Pogba.

Yeah, that would be even worse. Especially Pogba.

 

[YAMS49]

 

[ivaldo]

If Lindelof were a captain it would be his job to do so. Just like it is Maguire's job, but he never does it. Which is part of the reason we lose games when players dont feel motivated enough

Bruno isn't captain. Lindelof isn't captain.

 

[Brophs]

Maybe he'd heard the news about United's fake bid for that left sided centre back from Lille and lost his cool.

 

[Cassidy]

Bruno does not need to be captain, he can be a leader on the field. We need leaders, but we need one captain. That can still be Maguire.
There is a reason why Maguire is captain, and Ole made it clear. I want him to apologize to his team mates, but I don't want him to lose captaincy.
Use that fire against the opposition.

Can you remind me, not be facetious, genuinely interested to know

 

[KirkDuyt]

Brexit can't come soon enough. Damn Britons.

Moo

 

[Squeaky Bumtime]

Even if it's serious, I'm sure he'll get away with it because money and British diplomatic clout...

I would be shocked if anything serious came out of it but it just goes to show that having 'lads' in the team is not necessarily the right approach. If there ever was a sniff of Pogba being involved in anything similar, he'd be lambasted but I bet this doesn't even get mentioned.


I guess most of them come from a place where they're used to these places, as opposed to luxury. Most footballers are from humble beginnings.

Where this isn't mentioned? It's all over the media.

 

[Random Task]

You big on Greek law are you?

It's basic human rights, a man has every right to defend himself from harm.

I'm not big on the law in any capacity, but I'm fairly certain the same basic human rights apply in Greece.

 

[LawCharltonBest]

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I don't believe for a second that Souness could pronounce Mykonos

 

[ClaytonBlackmoorLeftPeg]

Doesn't seem like anything too dramatic and he will very likely escape any jail time, but if this is used to take the armband away and make Bruno the captain instead - I wholeheartedly welcome it. Bruno is 10x a leader than Maguire will ever be

What’s that based on? Bruno not being English?

 

[dove]

He is not getting jailtime, chill The laws in EU are so ridiculous when it comes to assaulting police officers that he will probably get €15 fine.

 

[NewGlory]

This guy becoming Man United captain after a few months at the club is a joke in itself. Give it to Rashford or Pogba.

Pogba was a captain and he sucked at it. Rashy has zero leadership skills

 

[Ekeke]

What’s that based on? Bruno not being English?

Based on his effect on the team, leading by example, being willing to confront players who make mistakes and not attacking police

 

[ClaytonBlackmoorLeftPeg]

Absolutely, their mentality seems to go back a few hundreds years every time they leave England. Everywhere they go is new territory to conquer.

Obviously I'm generalising. The majority are fine but we've all encountered groups of drunk belligerent twats on holiday and 9 times out of 10 they turn out to be English.

Is this a serious post?

English people go on holiday with the aim of conquering territory. What next rape and pillaging.

Pretty bloody offensive.

 

[Random Task]

Errrr try walking away or better still not being there and being aware of your surroundings etc

Walking away is without a doubt the best solution, of course, but try walking away from a tanked up guy who is unwilling to allow you the chance to walk away.

I'm not saying that's what happened with the Maguire incident, just talking in general.

 

[NewGlory]

What’s that based on? Bruno not being English?

it is based on Bruno demonstrating leadeship on the pitch every game he played, where Maguire has been much more lukewarm. But I don't know what being English or not has to so with anything. It's EXTREMELY weird that you would try to squeeze that in. Are you feeling xenophobic?

 

[fergieisold]

Is this a serious post?

English people go on holiday with the aim of conquering territory. What next rape and pillaging.

Pretty bloody offensive.

I’ve been in Biarritz pillaging the local bars for 3 weeks.

 

[fergieisold]

He is not getting jailtime, chill The laws in EU are so ridiculous when it comes to assaulting police officers that he will probably get €15 fine.

He assaulted a police officer? Jesus!

 

[Paxi]

Yep, 100% correct.

We have same issue in Ireland.

Sub-culture of loud chavs/Travellers going over wrecking spots and giving us a bad name when the majority of people are grand.

You'd love to just geld the cnuts.

Well, I’m from Northern Ireland, we’ve a crowd that go to Magaluf to get shitfaced, and they’re not particularly young either, but then they’re like that at home too. Fair share of dickheads everywhere. Not just English is all I’m saying.

 

[peridigm]

Was listening to radio yesterday and they were talking about Rashford and Lingard being asked to return from Greece early due to quarantine requirements when returning to the UK. Apparently it will interfere with the start of the season if they don’t return today. Wonder how many other players are there.

 

[Crustanoid]

Probably commanded to get into trouble by Ed/the Glazers to deflect away from our woeful transfer operations

 

[NewGlory]

Bruno does not need to be captain, he can be a leader on the field. We need leaders, but we need one captain. That can still be Maguire.
There is a reason why Maguire is captain, and Ole made it clear. I want him to apologize to his team mates, but I don't want him to lose captaincy.
Use that fire against the opposition.

Ole made him captain before we had Bruno. And at that time he was the best leader. Sure, Bruno doesnt need a captaincy to continue to be a leader but why would you not want him to be a captain if he is a better leader than Maguire?!

 

[Okey]

While waiting for the full details, I hope this puts in context the questioning of the character and moral fibre of a player we're linked with, because of a bad incident where he showed poor judgement. These guys are humans and these things happen. Unless they're recurrent or involve grave offences, I say deal with it, mete out appropriate punishment if required and give the guy a second chance. It then becomes their choice what they do with it...

 

[Schmeichel's Cartwheel]

Urgh.

give the captaincy to Pogba or Bruno.

 

[Gasolin]

Can you remind me, not be facetious, genuinely interested to know

https://www.manchestereveningnews.c...ws/man-utd-captain-maguire-solskjaer-17790170

"I didn’t expect him to be captain this quickly but he’s been in the dressing room and with the coaches, he’s vocal, he’s got the experience, he’s got everything a captain should have," Solskjaer said.

"I think it’s natural for him to take that role, his performances have helped. I’m delighted with the boy, that was one of the attributes we were looking at when we signed him."

"Solskjaer didn't bracket Maguire as following any specific traits from the United captains he experienced as a player, but he had no hesitation in mentioning him with those players and pilling the expectation of the job on to the England international."

https://www.manchestereveningnews.c...l-news/man-utd-harry-maguire-captain-17234124

"Harry is captain material, so is David," Solskjaer said. "David's been here and done it many, many times, but Harry's come in and been excellent in the dressing room and on the pitch and that was decision.

"But he can become long-term one."

https://metro.co.uk/2019/09/22/ole-...g-harry-maguire-new-man-utd-captain-10787542/

"As you see, on the pitch he’s a leader. He stands on the ball when we need to slow it down, he defends really well and he’s got this presence in the box – both boxes. ‘But off the pitch, as you said, he is a top, top professional. He’s vocal – he voices his opinion before training and in the dressing room – and I’m very pleased with the money we’ve spent on him."

"Asked if Maguire has knocked on his door and asked to be captain, Solskjaer laughed and added: ‘No, he hasn’t asked yet but it’s been in my head that he’s looking like one we could give the armband to."

 

[SteveW]

Is this a serious post?

English people go on holiday with the aim of conquering territory. What next rape and pillaging.

Pretty bloody offensive.

If I had said the bolded part, maybe. But I didn't. You did.

Groups of drunk English are famous for trying to take over wherever they go.

As I've already said, its definitely a minority. But lets not pretend it's not real.

 

[Who's Kissing Cameras?]

Cantona, Rooney and Keane were also arrested. This is minor, he won’t be stripped of the captaincy.

 

[Superunknown]

Do we know for certain which bits have been confirmed as having taken place? E.g. was he just a bystander or is there legit proof that he was involved in wrong-doing?

Tons of ammunition for the British press, this is. We don't need to be giving them freebies like this.

 

[Paxi]

If Maguire captaincy is over then Bruno has to get it. Remember one of the Sporting fans on here raving on how much of a leader he is.

Not that I want Harry to lose it. Christ, can a bloke get into a fight anymore? I mean surely we’ve all been there at some point? I’m not condoning violence but at the same time, it happens sometimes and you move on.

 

[DomesticTadpole]

Well, I’m from Northern Ireland, we’ve a crowd that go to Magaluf to get shitfaced, and they’re not particularly young either, but then they’re like that at home too. Fair share of dickheads everywhere. Not just English is all I’m saying.

I just wonder if it is a case of footballers who are in a disciplined sport, whose weekend is maybe getting in a babysitter and going for a meal with partner, then summer comes and they decide to have a holiday with their 'mates', whose usual weekend is getting lashed and having a bit of a punchup for a laugh. Their lives are now completely different. I know they want to keep their friends and they might be good loyal lads, but the likes of Harry are now in the public eye and that even on holiday they are open to scrutiny. Their friends need to realise this and make sure they behave as well.

 

[Gasolin]

Ole made him captain before we had Bruno. And at that time he was the best leader. Sure, Bruno doesnt need a captaincy to continue to be a leader but why would you not want him to be a captain if he is a better leader than Maguire?!

Because I'm being pragmatic, we need a lot of leaders anyway on and off the field. Bruno, Pogba, Matic, De Gea, and even Rashford to a certain extend all need to step up.

Maguire is the captain. For me, as a team performing in the EPL, we need ideally an English captain, or at least someone who will have ways to pressure the referee in the right way. Maguire is an English international and has a certain image, I would keep him.

Bruno does not the armband to command Martial, Rashford, Greenwood and Sancho, and to positively influence Fred or Pogba. He is that kind of leader.

 

[DomesticTadpole]

If I had said the bolded part, maybe. But I didn't. You did.

Groups of drunk English are famous for trying to take over wherever they go.

As I've already said, its definitely a minority. But lets not pretend it's not real.

Thought it was Germans and their towels?

 

[dev1l]

Cantona, Rooney and Keane were also arrested. This is minor, he won’t be stripped of the captaincy.

Even Bryan Robson. He had that infamous ladies loo incident

 

[van Nistelrooy]

I'd already decided that I wanted Bruno to replace Maguire as captain after the defeat to Sevilla.

Although I'm sure this will come to nothing, it just adds further weight to him losing the armband.

 

[UNITED ACADEMY]

He was arrested for sure, it was already confirmed by BBC and also his wife decided to made her insta to private. For what reason is the only thing hasn't been confirmed. Not everyone is arrested doing wrong, even my mates went to jail for defending random couples got attacked by 6 people but only for one day for investigation only.

 

[DomesticTadpole]

Even Bryan Robson. He had that infamous ladies loo incident

Someone told me about him being at a hotel up Newby Bridge way with his Boro' team and let's just say the woman with him was not his missus.

 

[Hawks2008]

My captain

 

[Utd heap]

Highly likely to be a load of fuss over nothing.

Even if it wasn't with this profile he'll get away with it no bother.

People thinking he'll lose the captaincy! Ha