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Silva will be a disaster in Premier league if they're thinking of depending on him in defense but their attacking signings are all great.
David yeah, certainly not Thiago
 

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Spain is bleeding money after Covid 19. Especially when it comes to spending money on a goal keeper that can't dive to his left hand side.
It'll almost certainly be a loan with purchase incentives down the line. If we get anything for him at this point it's almost immaterial; just getting him out of the side is addition by subtraction.
 

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David yeah, certainly not Thiago
He was top class defender alright but at 35 years old he'll be totally exposed against pace and intensity of premier league. If they're considering him to be their main defender next summer then great business for their rivals.
 

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We're gonna win the feckin treble mate!!
 

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Their new signings would improve them by at least 20 points, here's the detail breakdown:
- Werner - 5 points
- Ziyech - 3 points
- Chilwell - 3 points
- Silva - 3 points
- Havertz - 6 points
:lol:

So if they take a loan and buy another 5 players they'll get 40 extra points and be champions.
 

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Werner and ziyech both are taking first team training for past one month with the squad which is good for them to acclimatise with new team mates. Thiago Silva if signed, already had good match fitness since he played until yesterday. Havertz and chilwell will be eased into starting 11 by Lampard slowly I think.

Pulisic will be a big miss for start of the season. Recently Maignan from lille, keeper linked with Chelsea for 16 mn. I hope he won't be as bad as kepa if Chelsea signed him.
 

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He was top class defender alright but at 35 years old he'll be totally exposed against pace and intensity of premier league. If they're considering him to be their main defender next summer then great business for their rivals.
It is always a gamble but:

- no transfer fees
- he can coach and inspire the young defenders: really a true model
- sometimes Chelsea plays with 3 central defenders if I am right

What I imagine is that PSG will regret its decision when they will see his performances next year. Optmistic even it is challenging
 

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It is always a gamble but:

- no transfer fees
- he can coach and inspire the young defenders: really a true model
- sometimes Chelsea plays with 3 central defenders if I am right

What I imagine is that PSG will regret its decision when they will see his performances next year

Optmistic even it is challenging
He'll be a good buy as long as they actually sign another defender next to him. I'm saying if they're depending on him to be the main upgrade in their defense next season and that's it for defensive signings then it'll be a bad move imo.
 

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I can see us trying Silva with Zouma. Both French speakers and complimentary styles.
Chilwell Silva Zouma Azpi/James (rotate depending on the opponent) is probably back 4 I'd go with on most weeks.
 

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Word is it's €6m per year for Thiago Silva, so ~£5.4m per year. Translates to ~£104k per week; not outrageous by any means (obviously pending potential agent fees / signing bonuses, etc).
 

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He was top class defender alright but at 35 years old he'll be totally exposed against pace and intensity of premier league. If they're considering him to be their main defender next summer then great business for their rivals.
I don't think he can play week in week out, but PSG played a very high line in the CL and he still was clearly their best defender. I don't think he'll have much of a learning curve given his experience and proven quality, but you never know.
 

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I think we missed a trick by not signing Aaron Ramsdale. He is a far better goalkeeper than Kepa, would have been cheap and his salary would be low.
 

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The latest Silva rumours have it as being between us and Fiorentina. PSG are reluctant to make him an offer, but if they do he'd likely accept it. If he decides to leave PSG we're likely in the driving seat. All things considered I'd put it at 50/50 - word is we'd want him to act as a bridge option until next summer when there may be more affordable top-end CBs on the market.

In terms of the starting XI, there are a few things we can point to - first is that Lampard has apparently told Werner that he envisions him in a false 9 role instead of wide left. Second, Lampard has clearly favoured a 4-3-3 with Kante as the deep lying 6 since the restart - we beat Man City with a midfield 3 of Mount - Kante - Barkley.

Thus, the best guess of a starting XI next year would be this:

Pulisic - Werner - Ziyech
---Mount---------Havertz----
---------------Kante--------------
Chilwell-Silva-Zouma-James
---------------New GK-------------
Fantastic looking team on paper. Can you also FFP afford a new keeper?

Who would be the best 3 subs?
 

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Word is it's €6m per year for Thiago Silva, so ~£5.4m per year. Translates to ~£104k per week; not outrageous by any means (obviously pending potential agent fees / signing bonuses, etc).
I read somewhere that is was 375k per week?
 

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I don't think he can play week in week out, but PSG played a very high line in the CL and he still was clearly their best defender. I don't think he'll have much of a learning curve given his experience and proven quality, but you never know.
Probably helps having 400m of top world talents up front and an all star team.

Let's see how he does for you. Laurent Blanc mark 2 maybe?
 

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I read somewhere that is was 375k per week?
Someone on here posted a Tweet from an unverified nobody (a few hundred followers) that said that. Not seen it from any remotely reasonable source.

This current Twitter flavour of the month is saying 6 million euros a year, which is about 120,000 a week.
 

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Fantastic looking team on paper. Can you also FFP afford a new keeper?

Who would be the best 3 subs?
Depends a bit on who we go for and who we can sell - Oblak isn't feasible, but we can probably budget ~40-50m for a new keeper. Our net spend thus far is about €90m.

First off the bench would likely be Tammy / CHO / Kovacic. RLC, Azpi, Alonso, and a CB also options depending on the situation.

I read somewhere that is was 375k per week?

Don't think we'd go anywhere near that high; even Hazard wasn't earning that much.
 

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I read somewhere that is was 375k per week?
That was said by a random faceless twitter fan account. Romano has said it's £6m a year which amounts to about £115k per week.
 

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First off the bench would likely be Tammy / CHO / Kovacic. RLC, Azpi, Alonso, and a CB also options depending on the situation.
I don’t follow Chelsea close enough to know their quality. How do they compare to Uniteds post lockdown bench strength?
 
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I think Rudiger, Zouma, Christensen, Tomori, Silva is a decent set of CB's for next season. They could play 3 at the back too with those players.

Still unsure about Kepa. I don't think he'll find a new level. Perhaps the Haverrz money should have gone to a new GK.
 

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I don’t follow Chelsea close enough to know their quality. How do they compare to Uniteds post lockdown bench strength?
Significantly better. Your first XI probably still edges ours depending on how quickly our signings bed in, but our second XI is comfortably ahead of yours, no offence.
 

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None taken at all. Thanks for the perspective.
Happy to answer any other questions you might have! Can't guarantee the quality of what I post, mind.

Surely some players will be sold? That's gonna be a huge wage bill.
Among the players listed there, I think it's likely Emerson, Tomori, and Kepa are gone from the wage bill for this season. In an ideal world, so would Barkley.

I don't think the overall wages would be outrageous though - many of those listed are still quite young and aren't on obscene contracts. Ziyech also didn't sign a crazy deal - word is he's on roughly £100k per week.