Jadon Sancho| Staying at Dortmund for now

[Suvvernmanc]

Actually its two (Telles/Regulon and Torres) as Shaw is always injured. It would also mean allowing us to get rid of the deadwood (Smalling, Jones, Mata, Periera, Rojo and co) while giving Ole the option to rest players.

Shaw has been very good for 2 seasons now so he wont be replaced as starter that easily imo. Dont forget we actually have to get smalling, Jones, Mata, Andreas and Rojo out the door before getting other players in.

We obviously need better bench options, that much is glaringly obvious. Getting Sancho for 108m would allow us to have Greenwood as a bench option, with the midfield being strong enough on the bench already after VDB coming in. The LB and CB options being week is small concern but not the end of the world for us.

The question of spending 108m on Sancho or spending that money on all our weaker area is subjective. Our defence was very good last season regardless of what oppostion fans say. It is our attack that needs sorting before anything else. Our quality in depth Is atrocious and we'll need a striker in January too. Sancho is the level of talent we need to bring in now.

 

[Feed Me]

Dortmund playing today, bro? If so, would be the announcement prior to kick-off?

They are.

I guess we’ll know more depending on what’s said around that game, plus whether Sancho features or not.

 

[White Fury]

So Atletico Madrid can spend over 120 mil. euros on Joao Felix, but Manchester United can not spend 120 mil. eu on Sancho ? Seems legit..

Its proven yet again how incompetent our "transfer team" is, especially the boardroom Chuckle Brothers - Ed Woodward and Matt Judge.

Chelsea already signed 6 quality players and theres rumours of new GK incoming so probably 7. And the mighty Man Utd only 1. Wont be surprised if we dont sign anyone else this window. People at the top of this club are terrible should be sacked each one of them, unfortunately it aint gon happen under our current owners.

 

[Lynty]

I’ve just repeated what I was told.

What other leaks has your source got correct in the past?

 

[Summit]

Dortmund playing today, bro? If so, would be the announcement prior to kick-off?

Funny if Sancho is in the team. Maybe he'll play a half with Dortmund, then run out in the second half in a United kit

 

[Sultan]

Actually its two (Telles/Regulon and Torres) as Shaw is always injured. It would also mean allowing us to get rid of the deadwood (Smalling, Jones, Mata, Periera, Rojo and co) while giving Ole the option to rest players.

Can someone help out with statistics on Shaw's injury record beyond that horrific injury playing a European game? Granted it took him a long time to recover which is pretty normal. He was voted our player of the season prior to last season and really had a good season last. You could noticeably see the drop in quality once he was not in the team.

 

[Cassidy]

They are.

I guess we’ll know more depending on what’s said around that game, plus whether Sancho features or not.

They are playing tomorrow not today

 

[Feed Me]

What other leaks has your source got correct in the past?

Not sure, he’s never really shared this sort of stuff previously.

 

[Feed Me]

They are playing tomorrow not today

Ah, I thought it was tonight.

 

[Salt Bailly]

This will be all of us when Sancho finally puts pen to paper.

 

[FizzyWomack]

I don’t think I’ve said anything outrageous.

How can you sleep at night? Think of all the muppets hearts you are breaking making such claims! Im glad I dont fall for these posts.

What else did your mate say then?

 

[Withnail]

Are you serious? Did you watch our games last season when we had to rely on our reserves? They were hopeless. Therefore if we can't get Sancho then let's at least spend the money on reserves. Telles would provide us with a proper LB whenever Shaw gets injured. That means Williams would move to RB thus allowing us to sell Dalot. Pukki would provide us with good cover/competition for Martial. It would mean that we can play Greenwood as RW were he did so well for us. Brooks on the other hand is a young and promising RW which would allow us to rest Greenwood every now and then. Lingard is shit and Mata is finished as a player. Torres on the other hand is a decent left footed CB who would compliment Maguire. Telles (22m), Brooks (30m), Pau Torres (44m) and Pukki (20m) would pave the clean up we need which would see Dalot, Periera, Lingard, Mata, Smalling, Jones and possibly Rojo. That would drive the expenses down.

I was specifically addressing your point where you complained that we couldn't beat villa in a warm-up game. It's a silly thing to say, as is suggesting we sign a 30 yr old striker with Pukki's goal scoring record.

I don't doubt we need to strengthen but our worst performances came before Christmas when we were without Pogba, either one of Martial or Rashford and hadn't yet bought Bruno or Donny so I don't think it's as bleak as all that.

 

[GazTheLegend]

So Atletico Madrid can spend over 120 mil. euros on Joao Felix, but Manchester United can not spend 120 mil. eu on Sancho ? Seems legit..

Its proven yet again how incompetent our "transfer team" is, especially the boardroom Chuckle Brothers - Ed Woodward and Matt Judge.

What an atrocious example

João Felix was a disaster of a signing for that money and shows how badly things can go wrong

 

[Womp]

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Not sure how reliable Luke Gardener is mind, not really up to date on all that tier rubbish

 

[FrankDrebin]

What an atrocious example

João Felix was a disaster of a signing for that money and shows how badly things can go wrong

Plus it was pre-covid and A.Madrid primary brought Felix having got 107 million for Griezmann.
It is just a poor example.

 

[devilish]

For what its worth I agree with you.
I think Sancho is a luxury buy because I do believe we have world class front 3 but we are pretty weak elsewhere. Getting a new FB would go a long way. Getting a better CB would go a long way. Then you add two good attacking players off the bench? What a great team that would be.

No he's not a luxury signing. He's an excellent player that would help us big time in winning the EPL. However if our owners can't afford a Ferrari then they should at least buy a bus ticket. The alternative would be to walk it to home.

 

[Withnail]

Can someone help out with statistics on Shaw's injury record beyond that horrific injury playing a European game? Granted it took him a long time to recover which is pretty normal. He was voted our player of the season prior to last season and really had a good season last. You could noticeably see the drop in quality once he was not in the team.

He missed two chunks of last season 38 days and 44 and before that it was concussion for 11 days the season before.

Prior to that he was injury free for a couple of seasons so no he isn't always injured.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/luke-shaw/verletzungen/spieler/183288

However, him getting the player of the year was more an indication of how terrible everyone else was imo. I'm not really sold on him, but you're right the team function better with him in it but I think a lot of that has to do with the fact that he's the only natural LB in the squad. We definitely need another one as back up and to provide competition for him.

 

[JPB]

I am simply repeating something I have been told.

By whom?

 

[FreddieTheReddie]

No he's not a luxury signing. He's an excellent player that would help us big time in winning the EPL. However if our owners can't afford a Ferrari then they should at least buy a bus ticket. The alternative would be to walk it to home.

But it wouldn't be a bus ticket. It would be a 5 years pass what you have to pay even if the company doesn't operate anymore.

 

[devilish]

Can someone help out with statistics on Shaw's injury record beyond that horrific injury playing a European game? Granted it took him a long time to recover which is pretty normal. He was voted our player of the season prior to last season and really had a good season last. You could noticeably see the drop in quality once he was not in the team.

https://www.transfermarkt.com/luke-shaw/verletzungen/spieler/183288

17 games missed during the 19/20 season, 25 games missed during the 16/17 season, 51 games missed during 15/16 season, 18 games missed during the 14/15 season.

 

[devilish]

Shaw has been very good for 2 seasons now so he wont be replaced as starter that easily imo. Dont forget we actually have to get smalling, Jones, Mata, Andreas and Rojo out the door before getting other players in.

We obviously need better bench options, that much is glaringly obvious. Getting Sancho for 108m would allow us to have Greenwood as a bench option, with the midfield being strong enough on the bench already after VDB coming in. The LB and CB options being week is small concern but not the end of the world for us.

The question of spending 108m on Sancho or spending that money on all our weaker area is subjective. Our defence was very good last season regardless of what oppostion fans say. It is our attack that needs sorting before anything else. Our quality in depth Is atrocious and we'll need a striker in January too. Sancho is the level of talent we need to bring in now.

Shaw will always miss games and if Telles do well during that time then I can't see Shaw making a comeback afterwards. Having the 3rd best defence in a league were most defences were crap isn't that great. We conceded more goals then we did in the past 4 years bar last season (were Mou lost the dressing room). Defence does need strengthening.

 

[hellhunter]

By whom?

No secret agent or ITK gives away his sources

 

[LawCharltonBest]

By whom?

Nobody. Obviously

Don’t get what people on here gain from doing that.

 

[lewwoo]

Actually its two (Telles/Regulon and Torres) as Shaw is always injured. It would also mean allowing us to get rid of the deadwood (Smalling, Jones, Mata, Periera, Rojo and co) while giving Ole the option to rest players.

Complete myth that Shaw is always injured. His record compared to two other players since 16/17.

Shaw - 5 injuries - 269 days missed
Pogba - 7 injurues - 289 days missed
Martial - 15 injuries - 144 days missed.

 

[Fooza]

I don’t think I’ve said anything outrageous.

An announcement today isn't outrageous?

 

[Cassidy]

Complete myth that Shaw is always injured. His record compared to two other players since 16/17.

Shaw - 5 injuries - 269 days missed
Pogba - 7 injurues - 289 days missed
Martial - 15 injuries - 144 days missed.

So he missed one of the most days?

 

[sewey89]

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Not sure how reliable Luke Gardener is mind, not really up to date on all that tier rubbish

Not sure about him personally, but he writes for the express who are blacklisted in the twitter thread

 

[Withnail]

https://www.transfermarkt.com/luke-shaw/verletzungen/spieler/183288

17 games missed during the 19/20 season, 25 games missed during the 16/17 season, 51 games missed during 15/16 season, 18 games missed during the 14/15 season.

So the 17 games last season are the only games he missed in the past three seasons and he was injury free for 17/18 and 18/19?

 

[GaryLifo]

Poor Feed Me.

He has no idea what he's done.

No wait, he did this once before and things got really messy real fast.

 

[Withnail]

Poor Feed Me.

He has no idea what he's done.

No wait, he did this once before and things got really messy real fast.

Think he's got a bet on to see how fast this thread can get to 1000 pages and he's trying to hurry things along.

 

[amolbhatia50k]

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[pocco]

If Moyes was here he’d have helped get this over the line, am I right?

Not sure what difference the manager makes? It's the guys above.

 

[sparx99]

Shaw will always miss games and if Telles do well during that time then I can't see Shaw making a comeback afterwards. Having the 3rd best defence in a league were most defences were crap isn't that great. We conceded more goals then we did in the past 4 years bar last season (were Mou lost the dressing room). Defence does need strengthening.

First season of VAR may have impacted defending particularly at set pieces. Obviously some goals were chalked off as well but it would be interesting to see some analysis.

 

[lewwoo]

So he missed one of the most days?

Not the most though to be constantly called out on it. Neither of the other two are when they are mentioned.

 

[redshaw]

Bale stories hotting up

 

[Sultan]

He missed two chunks of last season 38 days and 44 and before that it was concussion for 11 days the season before.

Prior to that he was injury free for a couple of seasons so no he isn't always injured.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/luke-shaw/verletzungen/spieler/183288

However, him getting the player of the year was more an indication of how terrible everyone else was imo. I'm not really sold on him, but you're right the team function better with him in it but I think a lot of that has to do with the fact that he's the only natural LB in the squad. We definitely need another one as back up and to provide competition for him.

Cheers for the info. I thought it was a myth Shaw always being injured. Yes, it would be great to sign another left-footer.

 

[tenpoless]

Which flavour ?

Nice N Spicy of course

 

[tenpoless]

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Obviously will pay those 25m once we've sold Mike Smalling.

 

[Cassidy]

Not the most though to be constantly called out on it. Neither of the other two are when they are mentioned.

Martial is always mentioned what are you on about

 

[Adam-Utd]

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Obviously will pay those 25m once we've sold Mike Smalling.

This guy is faker than Pamela Anderson’s tits why do people keep posting him ffs?