We've got janitors here in CA making close to $270k. Govt jobs are great if you can get them. Firefighters routinely make more than $200k with overtime and benefits.
Very fecked up
yeh, like...wow. How can you make that much money and still steal shit. Guys obviously a weirdo.
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urgh. Bit early in the morning to watch that
For further context, the police shot and killed her father in January: https://eu.rgj.com/story/news/local...lowing-officer-involved-shootings/4606830002/
Ahhh, yes, the koala bear hugging threat to the cops who had eleven rounds shot at him. This makes me sick to my stomach.
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In reaction to things like this happening.
It's a bit early to say that this happened because their uniform identifies them by name.
My question was how does this help ‘public’ safety? It doesn’t. It creates conditions for allowing police to get away with shit more easily.
And my response addressed a possible reason. I didn’t say it was done for public safety. And I don’t believe they framed it as such either.
Sure, there’s lots of possible reasons. I was just pointing out what the reasons they suggested for it were, not what I believed should be done or that I thought it was the best course of action.
Doesn’t really matter how they frame it, it’s obvious for what the ultimate intent is regardless of its quaint packaging.
I was just answering a question you posed in which you asked how it was for public Safety even though I don’t believe anyone involved specified that it was for that purpose.
It’s obviously not for public safety, it’s for hardening the thin blue line & reducing transparency.
It's so they can hide the next Buffalo officer who cracks an old mans head open.
But youre answering a question you posed based upon something only you suggested it was for.
My post about public safety was totally sarcastic as were the similar replies in the Twitter thread. I didn’t ask about police safety. This is a move to shield police, it is not a move to protect society at large. That is patently obvious. It is only done to remove the transparency that has been hard fought for. As @WI_Red states, it’s to limit the clarity on the inevitable next time the police commit an atrocity on a citizen.
Badge numbers are still being worn, which are assigned to a specific officer. And they’re saying it’s to avoid officers being tracked down off duty, you’re saying it’s to protect them for atrocities committed.
Keeping in mind that this is your stance, that minority actions mean you don’t care if the rest are assaulted in any way, why wouldn’t a department do something to limit their officers exposure to people off duty?
I don’t have the hard data in front of me, but I would strongly assume that incidents like firing indiscriminately into a cop’s house number far less than events of police misdeeds on society. So, I guess I do not care that much about minority actions. That’s why I said ‘society at large;’ there’s always going to be instances of shocking events that can be emotive, but the sheer number of police atrocities means to me that we need to increase transparency, not lessen it. But, that’s just the numbers talking here.
For what it’s worth, I don’t disagree with you. I’m all for as much information being available as possible. My name is sewn on my uniform, provided when anyone asks, and I’ve had plenty of conversations with people on the way to jail that ended up with my first name being given. We’re all people and deserve to be treated as such. My partner wears a bodycam and we have MVARS in the vehicles used on every stop and contact.
Completely understand the police wanting to shield their employees’ info for this very reason, but limiting access to essential information in the case of police action of excessive manner is not going to engender public confidence.
I agree, I believe everyone is at a bit of an impasse here with how to proceed. No doubt that people from both sides want to come forward and figure out the best way for all to proceed, but there’s so much happening it might be too far gone to make work before something more drastic happens.
The needle keeps moving daily on this. I also agree that there will be more drastic, even seismic, events in the near term before the needle rests for a while.
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I find hard to see how to heal these open wounds. Is there even a way back to rebuild trust? What's going on there didn't even happen here under Milosevic rule, I'm serious.
As a former police I can say that it doesn't matter what they did. When you get control of a situation your right to use force stops. The same way should force not be used unless it's absolutely necessary. I know the policemen are human like the rest of us but if they can't leave their emotions at home, they are really in the wrong profession.
I see my sarcasm didn't translate well there at all
This is absolutely abhorrent and completely in keeping with these pigs. Really don't see how things are supposed to heal from this. And to be honest, these pigs don't deserve peaceful healing.Haha, ok. Hard to read the sarcasm between the lines sometimes.I see my sarcasm didn't translate well there at all
The thing is we actually have a few posters on here who usually come in and say exactly that, but while being entirely serious, so I don't blame you for thinking I could be serious.
