Glad Xbox isn’t in bed with them
Gaming PS5 vs Xbox Series S|X
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Doom, Wolfenstein, Dishonoured. All great games in the past few years.
Even if Bethesda don't have another game of the generation or anything as influential as Skyrims and Fallouts again, they still have many studios capable of producing high quality games.
In Obsidian, Inexile, Playground Games they have big potential. I know a guy who just left Rare for Ubisoft who has glowing things to say about Everwild and Rare being back on the up (he was very down on things pre-Sea of Thieves but they've really turned that ship (intended)).
Forza is always strong, even if you think it's dumbed down or nothing on the early games, it's still clearly a strong series.
Initiative is the one I am a little unsure about. Apparently big hires and budget and on paper should be great but who knows, so many things can go wrong.
It's quite clear Halo and Gears won't be relied upon this gen. I'm really curious to see what happens with those franchises and the devs.
He had access to the noobs and I absolutely destroyed the Sony fanboys over GT5/prologue and he went to the noobs and started whipping them up. It was hilarious.I wish I was. I’ve never gotten involved in this silliness til I saw Elvis giving it the big one
Last gen I went the other way, but only to mock Cider and Alock's love of Kinect 2.0 and all the Bullshit MS were coming out with. (I do wish Spark succeeded but it was as clear as day it wouldn't with how easy the MS fanboys on here thought it actually would be to make games! I remember one talking about making a zelda game on it
)Those were fun times, there's not a lot to get our teeth into this gen on the piss take front.
I'm only involved because of you, what is this cycle.I wish I was. I’ve never gotten involved in this silliness til I saw Elvis giving it the big one
Haha I vaguely remember the prologue debate.He had access to the noobs and I absolutely destroyed the Sony fanboys over GT5/prologue and he went to the noobs and started whipping them up. It was hilarious.
Last gen I went the other way, but only to mock Cider and Alock's love of Kinect 2.0 and all the Bullshit MS were coming out with. (I do wish Spark succeeded but it was as clear as day it wouldn't with how easy the MS fanboys on here thought it actually would be to make games! I remember one talking about making a zelda game on it
Those were fun times, there's not a lot to get our teeth into this gen on the piss take front.
Would happily pay £20 for a GT7 prologue
61m as of June, but syrian_scholes said Sony had passed 100m.
How about Sony’s latest controller gimmick?
That being said, it was fecking great balancing across a beam by tilting the controller with the ps3. Never been so immersed.
I said it passed XBox not PS, it's on 64m now.
Thanks mate. Me being an idiot and reading it wrong, my bad @syrian
Always count on you to correct my mistakes
All comes back to Elvis being a divvyI'm only involved because of you, what is this cycle.
It does look like it's going to reach 100m anyway.
Guys you all need to get a life
No probs pal.
I considered doing the same with Elvis but that would have to be a full time job.
Olly don’t get fly
on fire tonightI'm pretty fly tbf.
But yeah, it's still all same old isn't it? Shooters and Forza?
Now don't get me wrong, I love fps and I still like the Forza spin offs (yes the main series is ruined trash these days), but it's still not in the same variation and style class as the Sony ones. That can't be disputed.
If we are talking sensible here for a moment, MS still don't have a great track record with teams they've bought and started meddling in. Rare have only just become relevant again for example (I love SoT btw) and none of the others have really made a mark, not when you compare to the big Japanese hitters for the likes of Sony and Nintendo. Can it change? Of course, and hopefully it will as that's best for us gamers, but will it? We'll see. However just bare in mind the exact same thing was being spouted last gen if you remember rightly. I'm confident this time around it will be better, but I'm wary of getting too hyped right now.
Anyway that’s enough tomfoolery for one night. I think we’re all just excited for the new consoles despite what @Redlambs says (he’s just old).
Fancy a slap?Bojan, I am your father.
I hope it does. I lost my Switch. Gutted.
I was bang on right about the whole thing. The game WAS at least 2 years off, and the prologue WAS basically charging for a demo because they shat the budget all over the floor.Haha I vaguely remember the prologue debate.
Would happily pay £20 for a GT7 prologue
The fact people bought into the shit and yet today go at EA for continually trying to do similar by selling games in bits makes me smile and weep at the same time.
I'm still mocking the DS4. Weaste getting all mad because I kept referring to the gay nightclub disco lights on the front
Demons Souls is enough for me for now.
I would say Cyberpunk too, but that's already soooo last gen. (And I have a bad feeling about it).
So even if we ignore Doom and Wolfenstein as more shooters alongside Gears and Halo..He had access to the noobs and I absolutely destroyed the Sony fanboys over GT5/prologue and he went to the noobs and started whipping them up. It was hilarious.
Last gen I went the other way, but only to mock Cider and Alock's love of Kinect 2.0 and all the Bullshit MS were coming out with. (I do wish Spark succeeded but it was as clear as day it wouldn't with how easy the MS fanboys on here thought it actually would be to make games! I remember one talking about making a zelda game on it
Those were fun times, there's not a lot to get our teeth into this gen on the piss take front.
Dishonoured/Prey, Horizon (so different to Forza), Fable, Avowed, State of Decay, Flight Sim, Wasteland, Starfield, Fallout, Elderscrolls, Ori, Everwild, Sea of Thieves, Medium, Gears Tactics, The Outer World's
Feels completely unfair to say shooters + Forza. Even with a bit of hyperbole.
They're all B+/A titles, not padded with Indies. Also games we know lots about (mostly) with proven quality game (outside Avowed and Everwild - who are proven studios with very recent/current successes). Clearly lots of quality, quantity and variety
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And @Redlambs by all accounts they've learnt lessons from acquisitions of old. Lots of good stuff come out from Rare, Playground etc. They talk about how MS allow them to run with some continued autonomy, and don't enforce any sort of culture shift but look to meet them.
Obviously they are owned by MS and have to say stuff but it's quite clear from various accounts, published and rumours, that they are doing a much better job integrating studios than in the past.
They've shown with Rare and Sea of Thieves that they'd give time and by all accounts they've really turned things around over there and the relationship is better than ever.
Obviously they are owned by MS and have to say stuff but it's quite clear from various accounts, published and rumours, that they are doing a much better job integrating studios than in the past.
They've shown with Rare and Sea of Thieves that they'd give time and by all accounts they've really turned things around over there and the relationship is better than ever.
I'm afraid so. Two controllers bought at the same time from two different sellers.
Edit: at approximately the same time I should say, within 24 hours of each other
And a lot of those games have been past their best for a long time, others like Prey were decent attempts at their genre but nothing special. And you listed shooting games and Forza, not me, so your hyperbole comment is nonsense.
Besides, you don't even know yet how many of those games are going to be genuine exclusives and even if so, it's a lot of sequels to games that have been out for out for years. It still doesn't match the clearly move varied and at times innovative games from the Sony studios.
I'm not even entirely disagreeing with you, you seem to be reading more into it from your bias than you like to think. But my point very much stands, it's all same old and talk. If you want to keep comparing and fanboy fighting between Ms and Sony, then you need to see the point that it's still the same kind of lineup you'd expect. Yeah great, don't rely on Halo and Gears... but let's talk fable, Forza, State of decay...
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You were saying exactly the same thing last gen, and it's all "by all accounts!" Who's being more reasonable, me by saying they've made steps but let's not get ahead of themselves, or you are once again believing everything you want to read?
And how many years did they feck rare (and others) for BTW? Let's not get into that situation again and act like they are some kind of heroes on that one now that there's finally a proper footing once again.
Great posts
You said 'its still just shooters and forza' which is what I was responding to.
It's a non contest between Sony owned studios output quality and Microsoft.
Not even worth arguing about its been so much better on the Sony side.
Doesn't mean it can't change but they are miles off just on this generation alone.
Not even worth arguing about its been so much better on the Sony side.
Doesn't mean it can't change but they are miles off just on this generation alone.
People are also forgetting that Microsoft bought Ninja Theory. Hellblade 2 is looking great, as is some of their indie stuff like 12 Minutes (timed exclusive, I think).
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And the post I responded to started with
Then went on to talk Forza. That's the context.
As I said, if you re read my posts but not in the context of it being a fanboy argument but a discussion of what MS can and still has to do, you'd likely make more sense of it and agree. The fact I pulled some strings for an guaranteed X well over a year ago, but didn't bother with the PS5 shows which side I have more starting faith in.
Now, when are we going to get a caf SoT crew on the go? That's once exclusive I'd put up there with any from last gen and going well into the next one
Signing up to Game’s pre order email isn’t pulling some strings.....And the post I responded to started with
Then went on to talk Forza. That's the context.
As I said, if you re read my posts but not in the context of it being a fanboy argument but a discussion of what MS can and still has to do, you'd likely make more sense of it and agree. The fact I pulled some strings for an guaranteed X well over a year ago, but didn't bother with the PS5 shows which side I have more starting faith in.
Now, when are we going to get a caf SoT crew on the go? That's once exclusive I'd put up there with any from last gen and going well into the next one
If you weren't already on my shit list, mentioning Game would seal the deal.
I rate Hellblade as one of the greatest gaming experiences I've ever had but I'm not convinced a sequel is the right way to go. I mean, I'm definitely playing it but I'm not expecting it to live up to the first game. There's just something about the rawness of that game that I can't see them repeat it successfully and with the same impact.
I was meaning, even if just for hyperbole or (probably a better way of putting it) playing's devils advocate, saying that it was shooters + forza is unfair. Yes I'd listed a few shooters but I was just saying that Bethesda brought a decent roster of games with recent success / quality. The wider offering though is clearly much more than shooters + cod.
Regard being past their best. First - not sure I agree - some, yes, but many, no. Doom, Wasteland, Wolfenstein, Flight Sim have been heralded by many critics as being great reboots getting back towards their best. Horizon is coming off it's best game, and the likes of Hellblade, Outer Worlds, Gears Tactics, Sea of Thieves are recent successful new IPs.
Secondly, I'm not sure it matters if they are past their best anyway. My point was always that there are clearly many studios on the MS roster capable of high quality games now. All the games that I listed outside the new upcoming IPs have had recent highly regarded titles. Whether they are as amazing as they once were doesn't change that.
You could say the same for Sony. God of War was 'past it's best' before the most recent addition and look how that turned out? Uncharted is definitely past it's best. So what? The studios themselves have shown to be capable of building quality games so people trust them to continue delivering to those expectations. Which is fair - I am saying the same should apply here.
Maybe they won't be exclusives. They'll be on Gamepass day 1 which is enough for me to justify the console purchase. But I think they likely will be.
I never claimed they would be better than Sony or that the quality yet matches it. What I said was that the quantity is coming, and there's lots of indications and signals to suggest some quality output too.
Okay, let's talk em..? Fable - let's see. Playground are great with Horizon but let's see if they can do Fable. Open world and British humour I'm confident in, and there's a lot of RPG/progression elements in Horizon. I'm not convinced yet but really excited to see. Forza - sim racers aren't really my thing - they're well considered and highly regarded still though, even if not by the enthusiasts like yourself who know better.
State of Decay 2 was really good though. Looking forward to 3.
No one’s got time to read these essays, lads. Call each other idiots and move on
It all make lots of sense - not sure what you are on about, I was just disagreeing with some points and giving my own opinion. I am not viewing it from a fanboy pov, or even in the perspective of it being a fanboy argument. I haven't said anything that isn't reasoned and doesn't come from lots of engagement with various sources.As I said, if you re read my posts but not in the context of it being a fanboy argument but a discussion of what MS can and still has to do, you'd likely make more sense of it and agree. The fact I pulled some strings for an guaranteed X well over a year ago, but didn't bother with the PS5 shows which side I have more starting faith in.
Now, when are we going to get a caf SoT crew on the go? That's once exclusive I'd put up there with any from last gen and going well into the next one
I know you have a Series X preordered and buy all the consoles. As you know I have a PS4 and if didn't, have a PS5 on pre-order. It doesn't really add much value to the chat though.
I'll be honest though mate, whilst I enjoy the discussion (including you playing devils advocate, and even if there was any trolling or piss taking), I'm not interested in conversations that quickly descend into 'you said this 7 years ago' or back and forth over 'I'm being totally reasonable and agree with some of what you're saying - stop viewing it from a fanboy perspective'. Can we keep out the bit where you're patronizing - claiming I need to stop believing everything I read, or debating things I didn't claim (like that Xbox exclusive line up is going to be better quality than Playstations)
You idiot