Meanwhile, the other players on the pitch were Rooney, Rio, Vidic, Evra, Scholes, Giggs, Nani, etc. Whereas Mata got to play with people like Shneiderlin, Fellaini, over the hill Rooney, etc. It's much easier for a player like Cleverley to play in a team where he's the only one not quite up to task whereas Mata was surrounded by shite in an even worse system. The fact of the matter is that without a good team/squad, no player will flourish and Cleverley/Welbeck would look intensely shit in any of our teams since Fergie left.
You can’t compare individual performance with team’s performance.
Bruno played with the same players as Mata did and he was still performing even when the team underperformed
Carrick was still performing when he played next to Schneiderlin & Fellaini despite of the team didn’t perform.
I can go on with Aubameyang last season with arsenal as well.
Mata was underperforming because that’s what his level is, below the standard of top player.
He was saying that Mata has never raised anyone's game and his inconsistent performances over the years have been solely down to him. Saying that RVP and Carrick raise their teammates games without taking into account the fact that Cleverley and Welbeck played in a world class team with quality all over the pitch, not just RVP and Carrick.
That’s non-sense, I was right, you still don’t understand the point. I never say Mata never raised anyone’s game.
In fact, I can say that Mata can make player like Bruno to perform better than what Pereira/James does to Bruno.
However, will Bruno still performing even without Mata but with Pereira/James? Yes.
Will Mata perform without Bruno but with Pereira/James? No.
Will someone like De Bruyne make player like Bruno to perform much better than what Mata does to Bruno? Yes.
Now do you see where the difference? If you are top players you can still perform whether it’s with average player next to you or with good players.