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I think it was about group stage.
Er yeahI have a vague feeling that we may have won away to PSG before
This is the big difference in my opinion, we actually took the game to them and were the best side in every area. In some other games against top sides we’ve got the result but have been hanging on by our finger nails. Yes, we were indebted to De Gea at times but any club will need their keeper on occasions like last night and up against that striker force.We pick up a lot of points in the big games but we actually went toe to toe with PSG tonight which is something we've not done anough against big teams in recent years. Apart from about 10 minutes in the second half we took the game to PSG.
Yes, agreed, and I think it shows just how far we have come in 2 years. Our squad really did look a mess back then. An enormous wage bill and little to show for it. Now are in a position where we can be flexible, and I think having the 6 midfielders that we have gives us so many options.We were actually able to field a team tactically astute to deal with PSG's strengths and exploit their weakness's without cramming all our "best" players into the 11. It was testament to the improved squad strength and quality.
Agreed. We now have some momentum and confidence around the squad, and its easy to imagine us scoring more than once against this Chelsea defence.This is the big difference in my opinion, we actually took the game to them and were the best side in every area. In some other games against top sides we’ve got the result but have been hanging on by our finger nails. Yes, we were indebted to De Gea at times but any club will need their keeper on occasions like last night and up against that striker force.
Would love to see us have the same level of calmness and control against Chelsea at the weekend, that would send out a message.
Spot on my manI never start threads on here, but feck it, it needs to be said.
THIS is what progress looks like. Its important that all of our fans, the optimists and the doom-mongers and everyone in between, realise and appreciate this.
Yes, its only one result, but its clear and obvious to see. The squad is taking shape, and the confidence they will take from this result is how teams evolve. This wasn't a smash and grab win. This was a measured, controlled and brilliantly executed European performance against one of the best.
This project has always been bigger than one win or one defeat. Its something that has to be measured and appraised over time. If we look back at where we were as a club and as a football team back when Jose left, and look now at the potential and the mentality of this team, I really dont see how anybody can be dissatisfied with the situation.
This is what progress looks like
Utd were 4 to1 last night. It was an obscene pricei can't be the only one who expected us to win last night. Turning up for the bigger games is what we do.
The progress is in the squad which has progressed undoubtedly. As for results well that will only be shown through consistency of performance and results, winning against the top teams is pointless if you're having off days against lesser teams.
Dropping Pogba is the biggest progress Ole has made in my view. It's a big decision and one that backfired for the last guy so it's a brave call but absolutely the right thing to do.
Ole is as close to director of football that anyone will get to.That is why I dont mind Ole as director of football if not head coach.
Why not as coach? The team is progressing.That is why I dont mind Ole as director of football if not head coach.
If we’d withdrawn our interest in Sancho much earlier and gotten Telles, Cavani and Facundo in before start of season, so they might have helped us not lose two games, then I think every fan would have agreed.As disappointing as the window was you can’t deny we’ve improved the squad immeasurably. To be so comfortable without Pogba, Donny, Mata, Greenwood, Maguire and Cavani starting/involved shows we have so much depth now compared to the squad that started last season. I still maintain we’re far closer to where we want to be than many realise. We’re three signings away from having one of the best squads around - and the reason I know we’re making progress is because those three signings are all players we’ve tried to sign before and will again over the next few windows. Previously I genuinely had no idea why we signed/targeted 3/4 of the players we did but every signing we go after at least makes sense.
You add all that to what we’ve got coming through the youth ranks and how good our attacking football is when it clicks then this is clearly a very exciting time.
Since Maybe he played with Butt , maybe he also listens to Butt when they talk about academy kids ?Ole is as close to director of football that anyone will get to.
He has Phelan, Carrick and McKenna beneath him, hes almost a hybrid DOF just how SAF was.
Seriously, I wouldn’t ever change Ole because he’s doing what LVG and Mourinho couldn’t do which was not just to build a squad but to build a spirit.
Incredible man manager.
He will make us a powerhouse, mark my words.
Fully agree and Rio and Fletcher were saying the same thing on BT last night. If Ole can take that step, then fantastic.It was a superb result and performance. Progress will be beating the teams who regularly sit in against us and try and counter attack us. Once we find a way to regularly open up and beat those teams then there will be progress
title challenge next season?I never start threads on here, but feck it, it needs to be said.
THIS is what progress looks like. Its important that all of our fans, the optimists and the doom-mongers and everyone in between, realise and appreciate this.
Yes, its only one result, but its clear and obvious to see. The squad is taking shape, and the confidence they will take from this result is how teams evolve. This wasn't a smash and grab win. This was a measured, controlled and brilliantly executed European performance against one of the best.
This project has always been bigger than one win or one defeat. Its something that has to be measured and appraised over time. If we look back at where we were as a club and as a football team back when Jose left, and look now at the potential and the mentality of this team, I really dont see how anybody can be dissatisfied with the situation.
This is what progress looks like
It was a superb result and performance. Progress will be beating the teams who regularly sit in against us and try and counter attack us. Once we find a way to regularly open up and beat those teams then there will be progress
People seem to have forgotten but we stopped struggling with low blocks last season during the restart. I don't think this will be a problem when the team is back in form which looks likelyFully agree and Rio and Fletcher were saying the same thing on BT last night. If Ole can take that step, then fantastic.
I remember people calling me mad because I felt we could be a dark horse for the CL this year. I honestly think we're going to cause teams lots of problems, the Tottenham game was a bad day at the office, we're generally a hard team to play against for the big clubs. Pace, technique, grit and we do have a good defense when everyones fit. Going to be a fun ride this year.
couldn't even win the bleetin Europa and now we a champions league threat.That's going to happen to just about any opinion due to the size of the community. Best to just consider yourself lucky if you make it out without too many straw man/whataboutisms.
But that thread did have a lot of people not understanding what 'dark horse' meant.
On our day(s) we can beat anyone over two legs.
Let’s see. If we can solve that issue then I don’t see why a title challenge is out of the question, particularly with VVD crocked. We looked genuinely like a top side last night.People seem to have forgotten but we stopped struggling with low blocks last season during the restart. I don't think this will be a problem when the team is back in form which looks likely
Watching Di Maria after Rashford's penalty last time, followed by a great performance vs PSG where Di Maria did not do much at all..... almost been as fulfilling as the wins. I know I have a problem with how much I cannot stand that prick. Least favourite player to put on the United shirt.This is what champions lesgue is all about. These are the nights we all dream about!! Ok happy we have this tough group because these are the matches i want to watch my club play in. These are the teams i want to beat.
Also i hate dimaria and psg so its really nice to beat them again..
Fully agree and Rio and Fletcher were saying the same thing on BT last night. If Ole can take that step, then fantastic.
I think this team is capable of a title challenge too. I just think it needs a constant kick in the ass before every game. The team is like Pogba, sometimes unenthusiastic and lacking urgency but when they kick on they can do incredible thingsLet’s see. If we can solve that issue then I don’t see why a title challenge is out of the question, particularly with VVD crocked. We looked genuinely like a top side last night.
Not quite sure how this myth still lives on. It was true this time last year when we were relying on Lingard and Pereira for creativity.We are normally always good in these games. It’s against poor opposition we struggle.
Forget the Spurs game, and we’ve got a really good record vs big sides.
This season alone we’ve struggled past Brighton and got slapped by Crystal Palace.Not quite sure how this myth still lives on. It was true this time last year when we were relying on Lingard and Pereira for creativity.
But we've been putting those teams away pretty routinely since the start of February.
Mate, we had a one week preseason. Both of those teams had a month and 4/5 friendlies behind them.This season alone we’ve struggled past Brighton and got slapped by Crystal Palace.
2 of our 4 league games. The only league game we’ve looked good was vs Newcastle.
There goes that pre-season floccinaucinihilipilification again. We've been far behind almost everybody else from a preparation stand point.This season alone we’ve struggled past Brighton and got slapped by Crystal Palace.
2 of our 4 league games. The only league game we’ve looked good was vs Newcastle.
That's not even a word. We were also pants at the end of last season. It's not tiredness.There goes that pre-season floccinaucinihilipilification again. We've been far behind almost everybody else from a preparation stand point.
My vocabulary show off is getting more desperate by the minute! Doesn't mean I didn't mean what I said though.
Yes it is ... Google it.That's not even a word. We were also pants at the end of last season. It's not tiredness.
Jeez it is a word. I sit corrected.Yes it is ... Google it.
Also, of course we were tired. We had virtually the same 11 playing multiple games with no breathing space in between
This isn't really that true. We definitely have had a good record against the big sides, but not many times have had a performance where we actually took it to the other team in terms of creating chance after chance. And we definitely haven't done that against a side of PSG's stature (elite in Europe).We are normally always good in these games. It’s against poor opposition we struggle.
Forget the Spurs game, and we’ve got a really good record vs big sides.