huh? IS have already claimed it and he was shouting “allahu akbar” in one of the videos. Don’t get why people always post this when it’s obvious.
Terror attack in Vienna??
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
I’m clearly not talking about all Muslims...
Good, let’s start exporting rest of the citizens when one of them commits a crime. Where do you suggest they send them?
Vast majority of migrants and refugees don't share IS ideology, hence why they wanted to escape it.
"Importing people that follow a religion that wants you dead" leaves little to the imagination about what you mean, and even if you weren't, all nuance was lost in that trainwreck of a post.
Ah. I didn’t realise he meant refugees. Usually people get shut down for assuming it's IS, which I think is fair cop.
Perhaps some reflection as to why they want us dead is required and our nations can begin conducting themselves accordingly?
It's that or kill them all, which most of us probably wouldn't support in this day and age.
Have the attackers even been identified yet? What if they were Austrian nationals that were born and bred and educated in the country?
Is that because of mass importing?
Come on man. You can't blame something as prevalent as immigration for terrorism time after time.
One attacker dead, "several" still at large according to their interior minister. Scary stuff.
Yes, a period of sober reflection and exculaption of the murderers after your citizens have been slaughtered should be standard practice.
Problem is @Schmeichel's Cartwheel that when you drop posts like you did a thread about an ongoing Islamist killing spree gets derailed by those wanting to change the subject.
This line is a joke, right?
Shoe. Pot. Other. Kettle. Foot. Black.
You know why ISIS works to radicalize people to attack us, right?
He's not capable of being rhetorical. A pure literalist, like the men following their book in Vienna.
Explosive belt worn by attacker being defused
The explosive belt we mentioned earlier – reported to have been worn by an attacker who has since been shot – is currently being defused by the demining service, the Australian broadcaster ORF reports:
Very concerning that there are others on the run still
The explosive belt we mentioned earlier – reported to have been worn by an attacker who has since been shot – is currently being defused by the demining service, the Australian broadcaster ORF reports:
[Guardian]
Very concerning that there are others on the run still
A classic example of the shoepot calling the other kettlefoot black, ah yis
Can we establish what has happened before we delve into this rigmarole again? We’re already hashing it out in another current thread.
-not referring to your post @DavidDeSchmikes
-not referring to your post @DavidDeSchmikes
You can’t see why your post was a little inflammatory? You can’t see why emphasising (and implicitly vilifying) the role of western countries in terror attacks such as this one might be a slightly insensitive thing to say at present? Not to mention the many problems associated with the implication that all that is needed to solve this problem is “reflection as to why they want to kill us”. Right.
Let me turn that question on you: Do you think jihadism in Europe would not exist had the West never intervened in a middle eastern conflict?
Clearly that's ignoring the obvious, that no amount of heinous foreign policy justifies walking through a peaceful street shooting, stabbing, beheading and blowing up civilians.
I don't think it's nearly as inflammatory as this:
But yes, terrorism is horrible. Average people should die like this, killed indiscriminately by foreign threat actors while going about their daily business.
It's certainly debatable. Western meddling, beginning with Sykes-Picot and continuing through to the creation of Israel has caused that region to be a powder keg. Rather than try to fix the problems we created constructively, we continue to use force, which begets force.
I'm not trying to justify the terrorist acts at all but when someone posits that immigration is the reason for Islamic terrorism in Europe I'm going to offer a counter argument that has more basis in fact.
Wow...
Boy did you come out from under your rock in double time.
What a cretinous thing to say, hope you're proud.
the situation is still active, afaik, so my poiunt is/was let it finish before we all jump into the blaming and handwringing.
not unreasonable.
What kind of thrillseeker must you be to go into the bomb defusing line of work?
It is the classic "they asked for it" argument which is always stupid.
I doubt they are thrillseekers. I think a lot of them are kind of pushed into that role in the army.
Who can say what the motivation can be and while there can never be any justification, hate crime towards Muslims and particularly against Muslim women have risen in Austria.
Reported Islamophobic incidents in Austria rose to 540 last year.
Source - Documentation and Consultancy Centre for Islamophobia and Anti-Muslim Racism
In addition and for all I know there could be other alleged reasons, supposedly there was a link between Austria and the mosque attacks in New Zealand.
Once again, to reiterate for the hard of understanding I do not believe there can ever be any justification for murder, attempted murder, wounding or terrorist attacks.
Awful, the ‘it’s our own fault‘ rubbish.
And perhaps you can explain exactly where he said that?
Does it really need pointing out?
I believe it does and it should be very entertaining watching you make your extraordinary feats of leaping towards misinterpretations.
suggesting we should look at why they want to kill us then behave accordingly is pretty obviously saying we need to change our behaviour. Which leads me to believe the poster thinks we are in some way to blame. Plenty of ways to interpret text on the internet though. You got a different interpretation?
Erdogan promised this. He said nobody in Western Europe would be safe.
Who holds the key to transporting people from the Middle East to Europe? Turkey.
I believe the Armenian PM said to expect Turkey in Vienna too.
Seems to me Erdogan is being a twat and turning a blind eye whilst IS and co waltz through Turkey into Europe to commit attacks.
Who holds the key to transporting people from the Middle East to Europe? Turkey.
I believe the Armenian PM said to expect Turkey in Vienna too.
Seems to me Erdogan is being a twat and turning a blind eye whilst IS and co waltz through Turkey into Europe to commit attacks.
Certainly one of the more comical car crashes we see on Current Events. I've always held this theory that people rush to judgements based upon their own moral compass.
He didn't mention blame or apportioning it to ourselves. @Dwazza Gunnar Solskjær suggested that we reflect and that our combined nations act in concert.
I suggest you join the line for the Sadler's Wells Ballet Company auditions.
Well, it’s not really a moral compass is it? More connecting a comment with something seen quite regularly in these threads. Anyway, I’ll think about the ballet in the morning if I can manage to get some sleep.
Come on, Oates. You’re being ridiculous now. The obvious implication was that the west are in some way to blame, as is demonstrated when that post is placed alongside his subsequent post:
For what it’s worth, I don’t have any great issue with Dwazza’s post, but I think the timing of such a comment is poor and I don’t think he should have placed so much emphasis, at a granular level, on the west’s role in these heinous attacks. Let’s be clear, this was the work of some deranged lunatics, and they are primarily at fault. There is context, of course, but that recognition - that the individuals that commit these acts are primarily at fault - should underpin any future discussions.
Perhaps you are right. Maybe it is short-sightedness or even seeing what you prefer to see. Either way a pathetic attempt to breach the chasm of understanding the written word.
I couldn't care less if you can sleep, with your twisted mind no doubt there's some issue there.
Don't give me 'Come on Oates' - we're not back in the playground. Read what is there, that's all.