Andros Townsend means well but, when I read his comments, I was like WTF 
So many extremes.
So many extremes.
The Media Targeting Greenwood
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This media furore riles me up proper and I'm glad Ole is taking Greenwood out of the spotlight for a bit.
I'm really sorry to hear that. As a father myself the pain of losing your child is simply unimaginable. I am glad you have managed to find the strength and be there for your other children and grandchildren.
Thank you very much, sir.
I'm so sorry for him.
It's just the latest in the long line of attempts to attack or unsettle United.
It's just the latest in the long line of attempts to attack or unsettle United.
The press will be desperate for him to make mistakes and jump on him, I hope he doesn’t give the absolute scumbags the chance.
The kid is a special talent, the scum will hate that he’s at United and not the media darling Liverpool.
I hope the club start calling out the press for their absolute bullsh*t articles.
I would love Ole to address each article as it comes out, call out the writers one by one.
I call them writers because they aren’t fecking journalists, there’s not an ounce of real journalism between them.
The kid is a special talent, the scum will hate that he’s at United and not the media darling Liverpool.
I hope the club start calling out the press for their absolute bullsh*t articles.
I would love Ole to address each article as it comes out, call out the writers one by one.
I call them writers because they aren’t fecking journalists, there’s not an ounce of real journalism between them.
The way Mason is being treated by the media along with others including so called fans of our club is an absolute disgrace 
Apparently he recently lost a friend to suicide.
Gary Neville and Andy Cole have been publically standing up for the lad.
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Gary Neville and Andy Cole have been publically standing up for the lad.
Aye fair enough, didn’t know he’d lost a friend to suicide.
Yeah it was the man city player who killed himself. Greenwood put a post on his Instagram about it. Makes sense he would be excused from playing, he is after all very young.
Situations like this make it all the more a shame there's no fans in the stadium. He'd have over 70k people telling we've got his back otherwise.
We only have to look at The Sun online and look at the football section and see the attention that is paid to us; from any player that is mentioned will be like ‘former Utd target’ or other little mentions just to get our name in the article.
There is just so much garbage out there.
There is just so much garbage out there.
this is what a lot of our ‘fans’ don’t seem to understand. They have an effect on the way the media acts.The media plays up to this element of the fanbase, because they know they will lap it up, and jump on anything negative.The way Mason is being treated by the media along with others including so called fans of our club is an absolute disgrace
if our fanbase wasn’t so toxic, and didn’t slate our own players and managers at every opportunity, then the media itself wouldn’t be so bad.
What has he done (mistakes)?
I think he's friends with City lad who killed himself after he got released
The dude is 19 and the pressures on him are immense when they don’t need to be.
England are so desperate for “juicy celeb gossip” and a footballing messiah to win them the World Cup that any player with potential class is heralded before their time (see Calvert-Lewin for example). They did the same with Rooney, and look to want to do it again with a Greenwood.
Suicide is tragic. My cousin who I was very tight with killed himself 13 years ago and I have only started to try and heal. His is still fresh and I was a similar age to him and you can’t handle it personally let alone being critiqued for every move on a professional level. At this stage Mason should be watched by United as a potential suicide victim as its high in younger people who have suffered and are also going through trauma. Townsend is right, but he didn’t need to go public with his beliefs.
Players of any team will have my back over the media.
feck TalkSport, Daily Mirror and the Sun too. They’re just gossiping twats who do nothing but prop up their favourites and destroy the rest e.g Pogba, Rooney.
England are so desperate for “juicy celeb gossip” and a footballing messiah to win them the World Cup that any player with potential class is heralded before their time (see Calvert-Lewin for example). They did the same with Rooney, and look to want to do it again with a Greenwood.
Suicide is tragic. My cousin who I was very tight with killed himself 13 years ago and I have only started to try and heal. His is still fresh and I was a similar age to him and you can’t handle it personally let alone being critiqued for every move on a professional level. At this stage Mason should be watched by United as a potential suicide victim as its high in younger people who have suffered and are also going through trauma. Townsend is right, but he didn’t need to go public with his beliefs.
Players of any team will have my back over the media.
feck TalkSport, Daily Mirror and the Sun too. They’re just gossiping twats who do nothing but prop up their favourites and destroy the rest e.g Pogba, Rooney.
There does seem to be a media pile on these days. It’s very reminiscent of what happened to Sterling for me, and I don’t doubt that there’s probably some common ground as to the reason for the two.
I think that post in the OP Mason liked as well? It’s quite telling. No one knows what it must be like to lose a friend to suicide.
All in all, this is a time when he needs some protection from the club, and support from the fans.
I think that post in the OP Mason liked as well? It’s quite telling. No one knows what it must be like to lose a friend to suicide.
All in all, this is a time when he needs some protection from the club, and support from the fans.
I hate this so much.
Ok on one hand being a talented footballer is like being born with a silver spoon, your life will always be infinitely better than that of most people so if you gotta deal with pesky press oh well, people deal with worse.
However on the other hand the media just throws a lot of shit against the wall and sometimes it just sticks. They can build a whole narrative about Greenwood now based on one questionable decision. Its as if 18 year olds cant get laid or break some rules or something. And the media smelt blood. Theyre vultures.
So he should deal with it, just tell them to go F themselves but then again he is only human and he is 19. The club and the fans should stand behind him and give a giant F U to the stupid media.
Ok on one hand being a talented footballer is like being born with a silver spoon, your life will always be infinitely better than that of most people so if you gotta deal with pesky press oh well, people deal with worse.
However on the other hand the media just throws a lot of shit against the wall and sometimes it just sticks. They can build a whole narrative about Greenwood now based on one questionable decision. Its as if 18 year olds cant get laid or break some rules or something. And the media smelt blood. Theyre vultures.
So he should deal with it, just tell them to go F themselves but then again he is only human and he is 19. The club and the fans should stand behind him and give a giant F U to the stupid media.
I feel terrible reading this and deeply sorry for your loss. I have two sons. May your boy rest in peace.
Thank you. Look after your sons, I miss mine so much. I have 2 grandsons and one who is a carpenter is spitting image of my son, so will never forget him.
So sorry for your loss! I can't fathom the grievance, but I hope you are able to cherish every moment spent with the rest of your family.
To the rest of us, let that be a reminder of the eternally vulnerable position of being alive, even for "our boy" Greenwood, no matter what your salary is.
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Thank you very much.
Sure thing, I'm happy that you seem to be able to overcome your loss. It has must been really difficult. Only the ones who have sons would understand your loss. Please accept my deepest condolences.
Really sorry to hear this. My local pubs landlords grandson did this over a girl as well. He did it on his 17th birthday about 8 years ago. The landlord and some of his family started walking and climbing around Kilimanjaro, Machu Picchu and other places raising money for charity. Papyrus a prevent suicide charity I think was one.
As for Greenwood, if he has this on his conscience couldnt the club arrange councelling for him? Maybe they have and keep it away from the media. They will write whatever shit they want anyway.
The media will take any opportunity to make negative stories about United.
I've seen 2 from the daily heil this week alone. Both utter Bollox and completely fabricated.
I've seen 2 from the daily heil this week alone. Both utter Bollox and completely fabricated.
Yes, I am much better now. I feel I can talk about him now. I spent 18months passing my friends by, or hiding when I seen them on the road whilst walking. I visited an old Nun one day and sat talking to her for almost 2 hours and felt so much relief after this chat that I raced home to tell my wife who hadn't spoken about it for months.
It was this Nun who pointed me in the right direction and made me realise I had to look after my wife and other children and grandchildren. She told me that my son would always be looking down after us, and was in the right place to do so. This old Nun has passed away herself since, and we believe that she is also looking after us. This is what we hold on to.
Sorry to hear about your cousin. Its a tradegy when anyone dies, but to take your own life, he must have been suffering terribly inside.
True, but really someone should keep a close eye on him and he needs comfort at this time. One of my sons friend tried it twice after my son died. It's very hard to get over and the media make it worse when he is in the limelight.
If he wants to leave because he's told to improve I'd call the taxi straight away.
If.... i dont trust the media knows better, but if what they quote is true
If.... i dont trust the media knows better, but if what they quote is true
Are the quotes going round about what Southgate has said true?
Whys he redirecting the topic of conversation from not playing Grealish to being about Greenwood?
Whys he redirecting the topic of conversation from not playing Grealish to being about Greenwood?
Club are right to take him out the limelight, it got a bit out of control him being in the public eye. The media love to pick on young talents.
They're only human though. They have a life outside football and probably want to know what's generally happening around the world. In fact, they probably want to know what's happening in football. Unfortunately, that means these things will reach them one way or another.
Must be horrible.
Best advice I can give to any player: stay as far away as you can from The Caf!!! It's probably part of the induction curriculum
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The press are a disgrace going out of their way to target youngsters and make their lives harder for a few extra clicks. Hope he has a strong support system at the club and at home as he's been nailed on as being the newest whipping boy for the gutter paper backpages.
Been quite the glaring contrast to the treatment his mate Foden has received post-Iceland despite being younger and unmarried unlike his City friend. Shows how much these rags obsess over United
He's got something weird going there where no matter how well Grealish performs, Mount is always ahead of him in his squad selections
Been quite the glaring contrast to the treatment his mate Foden has received post-Iceland despite being younger and unmarried unlike his City friend. Shows how much these rags obsess over United
He was talking about the other Mason, Mount not Greenwood, in that instance I assure you
He's got something weird going there where no matter how well Grealish performs, Mount is always ahead of him in his squad selections
Should have avoided hanging out with Phil Foden in Iceland.
I just wish people would connect the dots, and realise that this goes for every media department - not just the sports section. It's exactly the way they operate when it comes to more important stuff as well. There's always a set narrative, always someone to villify, always a meme for people to incorporate into their psyche. Proper brain washing.
"Saddam has weapons of mass destruction" -> people support the killing of hundreds of thousand Iraqis.
"Assad is gassing his own citizens" -> people support the destruction of Syria.
"Gaddafi is a horrible man" -> people support the bombing of Libya, and subsequent refugee crisis washing over Europe.
The role of the media has always been to push narratives - whether for political or economical gain - and to prepare people to hate someone else (makes us ok with more). And even when there isn't really an underlying agenda, it's just what sells the most papers, and makes more people tune into the TV.
I'm glad it was about Mount as Greenwood needs protection now and time out of the limelight.The press are a disgrace going out of their way to target youngsters and make their lives harder for a few extra clicks. Hope he has a strong support system at the club and at home as he's been nailed on as being the newest whipping boy for the gutter paper backpages.
Been quite the glaring contrast to the treatment his mate Foden has received post-Iceland despite being younger and unmarried unlike his City friend. Shows how much these rags obsess over United
He was talking about the other Mason, Mount not Greenwood, in that instance I assure you
He's got something weird going there where no matter how well Grealish performs, Mount is always ahead of him in his squad selections
I don't understand why Southgate doesn't play Grealish more though, I think every manager has their favourites though.
Mad how Greenwood gets all this media hate whilst Foden is going about his business. I wonder why.
Hint: It's not to do with him playing for United as some are suggesting.
Hint: It's not to do with him playing for United as some are suggesting.
We know the reason the red tops go after him but I think some people in this forum and England fans lay into him because everyone fully believes he's going to be the next Rooney (or better) and when people hear some bullshit story about him they're annoyed he's denying them the chance for happiness by being great.
It's fecking stupid.
But that's the point, it was an isolated incident. Every single story that's come out about him since then has been denied multiple times by the club. United fans willing to believe every negative thing printed about us is a a big reason the media keep peddling these stories and getting away with it, not accusing you of that by the way. Regardless of what's actually happened with Greenwood, which the club's denied, he's already been labelled as throwing away his talent, a party animal, the next Ravel Morrison, always late to training, unprofessional etc, it's frankly ridiculous.
I don't like this idea about Foden "getting away with it" either, neither player should be getting targetted. Greenwood's been overly criticised but that doesn't mean we should be going after Foden to even it up. They're two young lads who made a mistake and were punished for it, it just so happens that in Greenwood's case it's been blown way out of proportion by the media to the point it's verging on character assassination.
Anybody or anything to do with United is fair game for the media, especially if that some one or something includes them being sent to the 'naughty step'. Lets be honest the club benefits because its name appears on both the front and back pages of many publications, is the subject of many podcasts, twitter feeds/re-tweets etc.
The easy answer is to say to such as Greenwood "Grow up lad....even though you are barely out of your teens, think and act like someone much older".
The problem is we the public will still go on buying/swallowing the twaddle that's fed to us and we make it worse... bet there is some journo even now blogging away about how much United fans are discussing Greenwood on one of their major supporters web sites... and they wouldn't be wrong would they.
We the fans can draw a line under such as this, but we all have to do it...?
The easy answer is to say to such as Greenwood "Grow up lad....even though you are barely out of your teens, think and act like someone much older".
The problem is we the public will still go on buying/swallowing the twaddle that's fed to us and we make it worse... bet there is some journo even now blogging away about how much United fans are discussing Greenwood on one of their major supporters web sites... and they wouldn't be wrong would they.
We the fans can draw a line under such as this, but we all have to do it...?