2020 US Elections | Biden certified as President | Dems control Congress

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The GOP retweet and quotes by folks like the GOP leader in MI are just bat shit insane and utterly terrifying. That so many people are seemingly longing for a authoritarian theocracy with **** levels of conspiratorial thinking in a country where those same folks liked to claim it was the greatest democracy is just every other authoritarian in the world's dream.

 

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The GOP retweet and quotes by folks like the GOP leader in MI are just bat shit insane and utterly terrifying. That so many people are seemingly longing for a authoritarian theocracy with **** levels of conspiratorial thinking in a country where those same folks liked to claim it was the greatest democracy is just every other authoritarian in the world's dream.
They’ve patented both the pitch for & the actual snake oil for the ignorant in this country.
 

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GOP tweeting this is absolutely incredible
Its going to be very hard for them to walk back to a position of accepting the results... so I think they are going to double down on the crazy

Either trump somehow gets it to the supreme Court and he's corrupted it as much as he thinks ... or he looses but does not conceded and America gets more divided and he takes huge shit in the oval office on the wayout... probably literally and possibly figuratively with something crazy like a nuke at North Korea or Iran then spends the next 4 years milking his supporters, feeding the qannon crazies and planning a trump 2024 campaign

But I think its going to be contested in any way he can
 

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It's amazing that the only thing between democracy and autocracy right now is a senile fool dripping in hair dye.

If you guys don't take this as a warning that democracy requires an educated, engaged and informed populace, the next attempt for an authoritarian take over will actually have smarts behind it.
 

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It seems parts of the media have started to get restless and worried that Biden isn't speaking out about Trump and (now) the Republicans behaviour.

I know he has a government to form, but him staying quiet is making him look weak in the eyes of many. This isn't the first time I've seen him being called out in the past few days.

I'm not sure what his play should be. The last thing he wants or needs is to get in to a public dirt slinging match with Trump and Rudy. But he can't stay silent forever. I do think a forceful rebuke will at least put to bed any doubts about him being weak or passive. Someone needs to stand up and call this bullshit what it is and put a stop to this insanity before it causes any more harm.
 

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Hard to imagine that Twitter don't know exactly how far they're enabling this situation right now. They're effectively part of it now by continuing to allow them to tweet sedition.

Even Fox are labelling it in pretty strong terms as bs compared to those lukewarm tweet labels.
 

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This is the problem with Biden. I don't think he as the stamina for a fight.
 

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For anyone like me who is getting a little concerned I recommend that you give today's Pod Save America podcast a listen. They do a good job of breaking down how futile Trump's efforts are. It made me feel a little less paranoid at least.
 

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It seems parts of the media have started to get restless and worried that Biden isn't speaking out about Trump and (now) the Republicans behaviour.

I know he has a government to form, but him staying quiet is making him look weak in the eyes of many. This isn't the first time I've seen him being called out in the past few days.

I'm not sure what his play should be. The last thing he wants or needs is to get in to a public dirt slinging match with Trump and Rudy. But he can't stay silent forever.
I just finished watching Biden give a talk after a call with governors. He's clearly not worried about these shenanigans because he's got his own legal team and they're not having to conjure up bullshit because the facts are on their side. He's appearing on the news channels whereas Trump has gone in hiding leaving all his ghouls to do the dirty work. In that sense Biden probably is trying to act as a president now rather than the president in waiting. Things like facilitating the distribution of the vaccine, rebuilding the economy, safely reopening institutions are more worthy of his time to talk about than getting in the mud with Giuliani. Which is probably what Giuliani actually wants. He's no longer talking about Hunter Biden's laptop anymore.
 

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GOP tweeting this is absolutely incredible
Correct me if I’m wrong but are they just not relaying what’s come out of the press conference? The fact they’ve put quotation marks on it seems to suggest that but agree that the fact they are even tweeting it is beyond incredible.
 

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Can't believe how simple minded some of you are thinking that these efforts by Trump and Giuliani are going to lead to a successful coup. This also equates to disinformation in my book. The only thing we should be worried about are the millions of people who actually believe all of this (because they want it to be true).
 

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Can't believe how simple minded some of you are thinking that these efforts by Trump and Giuliani are going to lead to a successful coup. This also equates to disinformation in my book. The only thing we should be worried about are the millions of people who actually believe all of this (because they want it to be true).
It's 2020. Anything. Is. Possible.
 

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If Trump was confident of getting this turned around why's he barely shown his face since election day. A bravado conman which he has been all his life should be the one who is out everyday acting out a second term agenda.

This election is done. Trump knows it too. He's just going to have his people drag it out until the electoral college confirms Biden which will make his diehard supporters enraged and keep them engaged for the next four years. This is all performative.
 

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Why can't things like this be pointed out by the journalists at these press conferences? I was waiting for this to be asked but as usual nothing was said.

Or the fact the Dems fixed the election but didn't fix the Senate races and actually lost seats in the House.

The media have let shit like this slide since day one of his Presidency. If they had had some balls maybe we wouldn't be where we are now.
 

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And another one gone and another one gone
Another one bites the dust!

Edit: This judge was appointed by Trump :lol: :lol:

 

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I'm actually logged in the Lin Wood hearing atm.

It's not going well for good ol' Lin. Before a Trump appointee mind you.
Well, I guess i'm not to bad a lawyer, Lin Wood just got his ass handed to him, the judge appointed by Trump instantly dismissed the lawsuit.

EDIT WI_red beat me to it.
 

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Well, I guess i'm not to bad a lawyer, Lin Wood just got his ass handed to him, the judge appointed by Trump instantly dismissed the lawsuit.

EDIT WI_red beat me to it.
feck it man, pile on, post all the loses. Multiple times. SO MUCH WINNING!
 

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feck it man, pile on, post all the loses. Multiple times. SO MUCH WINNING!
The judge (again a TRUMP appointee) destroyed him (in a legal way).

Best bits :

" Not only does Plaintiff lack an injury-in-fact sufficient to establish standing for his due process claim, the alleged injury is not traceable to any action by the State Defendants "

" Plaintiff’s Claim is Moot"

" They are the exact opposite of arbitrary and disparate treatment. "

" Plaintiff’s claim depends on the assumption that the rules and guidance resulting from the Litigation Settlement are inconsistent with Georgia’s election code. They are not. "

" Plaintiff’s motion fails to articulate a discernable claim under the due process clause. It is unclear whether Plaintiff asserts a substantive or procedural due process claim, but neither is supported by the facts."

And my personal favorites :

" Plaintiff’s claim of irreparable harm borders on the delusional "

" To halt the certification at literally the 11th hour, would breed confusion and disenfranchisement that I find have no basis in fact and law."
 

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The judge (again a TRUMP appointee) destroyed him (in a legal way).

Best bits :

" Not only does Plaintiff lack an injury-in-fact sufficient to establish standing for his due process claim, the alleged injury is not traceable to any action by the State Defendants "

" Plaintiff’s Claim is Moot"

" They are the exact opposite of arbitrary and disparate treatment. "

" Plaintiff’s claim depends on the assumption that the rules and guidance resulting from the Litigation Settlement are inconsistent with Georgia’s election code. They are not. "

" Plaintiff’s motion fails to articulate a discernable claim under the due process clause. It is unclear whether Plaintiff asserts a substantive or procedural due process claim, but neither is supported by the facts."

And my personal favorites :

" Plaintiff’s claim of irreparable harm borders on the delusional "

" To halt the certification at literally the 11th hour, would breed confusion and disenfranchisement that I find have no basis in fact and law."
Other than his defending of Jewell, what has Lin Wood done of any quality in his legal career?

Shame that an actor as good as Sam Rockwell played him in the movie.
 

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Other than his defending of Jewell, what has Lin Wood done of any quality in his legal career?

Shame that an actor as good as Sam Rockwell played him in the movie.
His biggest (lucrative) win is a 450M settlement against DaVita Healthcare.

Also, he defends Kyle Ritthenhouse.
 

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like palpatine in star wars 9, trump embodies and exemplifies the entire conservative lineage
 

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His biggest (lucrative) win is a 450M settlement against DaVita Healthcare.

Also, he defends Kyle Ritthenhouse.
Knew he defended Rittenhouse. Well, glad he was pretty shit in this case. Hope this quality before a judge or jury continues with his Rittenhouse defense.
 
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And another one gone and another one gone
Another one bites the dust!

Edit: This judge was appointed by Trump :lol: :lol:

This means it’s going to be pretty anticlimactic tomorrow in GA when the votes are certified.
 

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This is the problem with Biden. I don't think he as the stamina for a fight.
Also you don't want to be the healer in chief, not even in the office yet and you are doing exactly the opposite. Then Trump can point out to your breaking of promises and lying.
 

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Giuliani quotes ‘My Cousin Vinny’ as he sets out conspiracy theories at bizarre press conference. Here's an extract from this report in The Independent:

"In the midst of working through the states in which he believes the Trump campaign can overturn the results of the election, Mr Giuliani acted out one of the courtroom scenes from the 1992 movie.

He compared election observers being corralled away from the votes counts to a moment in the movie in which the eponymous character asks a witness in court how many fingers he is holding up, claiming that they could not see a thing ...

... As what appeared to be hair dye dripped down both sides of his face, Mr Giuliani turned over the podium to attorney Sidney Powell who laid out an incredibly far-fetched conspiracy concerning Dominion Voting Systems, the late president of Venezuela Hugo Chavez (who died in 2013), communist money interfering with US elections, and a vast plot involving computerised vote-switching.

... Speaking third was Trump legal adviser Jenna Ellis ... Ms Ellis described the assembled lawyers as 'an elite strike-force team' working on behalf of the president.

It was notable that general counsel from the campaign, senior RNC lawyers, nor the team that represented the president during the Mueller investigation were present. "
"elite strike force" :lol: ffs
 

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