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Someone losing their life is always a sad occasion, but I will never, ever forgive him.
I'm sure he's devastated John Keiler from whatever the feck it is that you're from will never, ever forgive him. How will he live?
 

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Why have you bothered to come into a Maradona tribute thread to post all this sort of nonsense.
There is a fine line that is walked between being a genius and madness, us mere mortals should just be thankful we seen one in the shape of Maradona.
 

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Has it been confirmed as a legit tweet then?? Surely not.
I didn't see any tweet, but I did see yet another interview from him banging on about that bloody goal. He should take a leaf from Lineker's book. It's incredibly small time to still talk of such things.
 

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I didn't see any tweet, but I did see yet another interview from him banging on about that bloody goal. He should take a leaf from Lineker's book. It's incredibly small time to still talk of such things.
Ah OK, few fella's showed me a supposed tweet from him (obviously a fake account) and it's disgraceful.

Thought for a minute you must have been referring to said tweet that's been doing the rounds.
 

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Someone losing their life is always a sad occasion, but I will never, ever forgive him.
Hahaha if you are over the age of 12 then you are one really sad individual. What a hilarious childish idiotic comment :lol::lol::lol:
 

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Hahaha if you are over the age of 12 then you are one really sad individual. What a hilarious childish idiotic comment :lol::lol::lol:
We are in the Trump /brexit era after all.
 

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Feck me, I hated him in 86 as a ten year old but wow what a guy. No one other than Maradona could win a World Cup basically on his own..

What a character and unfortunately a flawed genius who has gone far too soon.
 

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Feels absoutely surreal that the man is dead. Just seen his coffin going to the cemetery and still doesn't seem real.

Wasn't even born when he did some amazing things but he's one of the greatest sportsmen that has ever existed and arguably the best footballer of all time too.

He made the beautiful game
 

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Was it the documentary “Diego Maradona”? Whoever hasn’t seen it I highly recommend
Is that the film that was out in 2019? Thinking of sitting down with a few beers and watching it on Saturday night, never seen it before and I have so much glowing respect for the man
 

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Is that the film that was out in 2019? Thinking of sitting down with a few beers and watching it on Saturday night, never seen it before and I have so much glowing respect for the man
Is that the film that was out in 2019? Thinking of sitting down with a few beers and watching it on Saturday night, never seen it before and I have so much glowing respect for the man
Yes, sir. You should. It was quite the watch. Very invite full on his problems with the media and also his own addictions.
 

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Feels absoutely surreal that the man is dead. Just seen his coffin going to the cemetery and still doesn't seem real.
It was also surreal to see so many people crying, mourning, singing, chanting, drinking, fighting with the police . All in one day...
So many different emotions because of one man. Should anyone ever again asks why he was so special and always will be, we can just show them those scenes.
 

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I was a (relatively mediocre) football players on youth football back in the days, and I still remember playing on thin gravel fields (yes, believe or not, they were allowed back in the days). Whenever it rained you just needed to go to the ground to become a human walking giant bruise :D

Not to mention the official match balls back on the days: they felt heavy, tough, if you get one of those right in the face there were big chances you would pass out, and not to mention that when the ball got soaked with rain few were the players with enough courage to head a long ball before it bounced on the ground at least once .
:D

Yeah factoring all these things he seems even more remarkable if it's possible. It seemed like the ball is a part of his leg, the way it glues to it and the way he kicked it and shoot it. I remember someone saying, dont remember who and in what occasion, that Maradona kicked the ball differently. Only the special players can do it or can make you look at it that way. Only other player with whom it seemed similar was Ronaldinho.

And the most beautiful thing is that while playing in all those stadiums and in all those big games it looked like he was just having fun and like he was again a kid, kicking some patched up ball on some awful pitch.
 

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:lol: I believe in the post match he was asked how does he feel that Terry Butcher said he wouldn’t shake his hand. He replied “I greeted the Scottish manager, who is Terry Butcher?”
 

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Being the best isn’t good enough to be the GOAT.

Most of today’s young football supporters think that Messi or Ronaldo is the GOAT, some of the older generation prefers Pelé. Diego Armando Maradona was something else.

He was more then a footballer with the biggest talent the world had witness. Hand of God. Drugs. Alcohol. Destructive lifestyle. Mafia. Corruption. It’s all there.

Then there are the other side of him. Unique leadership. Charismatic beyond imagination. A heart of gold. A one man show. A football general who almost singlehanded took his national team to a World Cup victory. The world of football has never witnessed anything like it, not before him and not after.

First we admired his unique talent. Then some of us hated him. Hand of God. Drugs. Cocaine. Then we felt sorry for him. Time goes by and again we still can’t decide if he’s the best ever or not but we can’t ignore him. Then he dies. It’s empty and in the end we are left with nothing but genuine love. A magician. The true meaning of being a legend. Something unique and unmatched.

There you have it. Diego Armando Maradona. Being the best isn’t good enough if we can’t love you. RIP your genius. You where something else.
 

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Asking me to decode your words (before telling me more than I actually wanted to know anyway), suggests you think you're some unknowable enigma - the lone voice of reason. And not just yet another petty, joyless troll who desperately wants to be noticed.

The guy was a brilliant footballer who brought joy to millions. His lifestyle doesn't change that.
I didn't realise we had an aspiring Stephen Fry in residence. I do fear, however, that the great man himself would never have made mistake of a tautology such as 'unknowable enigma'. Nice try at being erudite though.

By the way, 284 posts in 4 years is hardly 'trolling'.
 

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The man was beautiful. Lived it to the full while he was here, and that's about as much as you can do.
 

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It's happened in this very thread mate - the tabloids are highly adept at reflecting an ugly vision back at the people who most want to see it, which is generally that everything is a war and someone is always to blame. Anyway, the majority can see it for what it actually is, the passing of a football genius whose life story is inextricably bound up in our own.
Interesting that you think everyone should bow to the majority opinion. I can see why anyone who supports England/or who actually played in that game remains bitter. They had a shot at glory and were basically robbed. There are always plenty of papers devoted to publishing panegyrics to Maradona.
Tim Vickery on Off the Ball (4:01) making the point that the England defenders kicked him all game and one of them had elbowed him in the face. He says if the opponents were behaving like that, you might be a little cynical yourself.

Well Vickery is a dyed in the wool South American football fan who has to justify it. It's sort of amazing how despite everything he did including winning Serie A with Napoli the guy's entire public legacy outside Argentina seems to come down to two moments.
It took five pages but eventually somebody spoke the hard truth instead of reeling off 'RIP' like a drone.

Because that *really* 'adds to the discussion.'
I wonder if fans who feel so charitable towards Maradona today will sum up the same generosity when Luis Suarez passes.

Kind of makes me wonder what are some epic, career-defining moments that the best players of today will be remembered by. There's so much more highlights nowadays than before and its hard for a magical moment to stick out like, say, the Hand of God does. I feel that the WC still gives such epic performances a bigger boost than club football, at least in the public consciousness (More people know about countries than clubs).
Zidane's headbutt for sure. Possibly Charisteas' winner for Greece or Eder's? I'd say Aguero's goal or Michael Thomas' goal but club football isn't the same as representing a nation let alone one as invested in football as Argentina. Then there's the status of the player: Maradona was a player of obvious greatness. Eder is the opposite of great.
 

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I can't be bothered editing down the entire post above @Haddock to isolate the relevant quotes but "the guys public legacy outside Argentina seems to come down to two moments" is an incredibly myopic Anglocentric statement reinforced by your ridiculous comparison to Luis Suarez.
 

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Almost all (players and fans) of us love the game to the same extent but football loved him back the most.

The things he could do with the ball was on a different plane. It was just a natural chemistry
 

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Well Vickery is a dyed in the wool South American football fan who has to justify it. It's sort of amazing how despite everything he did including winning Serie A with Napoli the guy's entire public legacy outside Argentina seems to come down to two moments.
Outside of Argentina or just in England where the press has been going on about the Hand of God business for 30 odd years?
 

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Interesting that you think everyone should bow to the majority opinion. I can see why anyone who supports England/or who actually played in that game remains bitter. They had a shot at glory and were basically robbed. There are always plenty of papers devoted to publishing panegyrics to Maradona.

Well Vickery is a dyed in the wool South American football fan who has to justify it. It's sort of amazing how despite everything he did including winning Serie A with Napoli the guy's entire public legacy outside Argentina seems to come down to two moments.

I wonder if fans who feel so charitable towards Maradona today will sum up the same generosity when Luis Suarez passes.
Or England could have lost to Belgium or West Germany? That West German team had many fantastic players and England hadn’t exactly set the world on fire before that game. Their first goal came in the third game of the tournament.

And it wasn’t as if Linekar didn’t try to do the same exact thing in the game but failed to palm it in.
 

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Being the best isn’t good enough to be the GOAT.

Most of today’s young football supporters think that Messi or Ronaldo is the GOAT, some of the older generation prefers Pelé. Diego Armando Maradona was something else.

He was more then a footballer with the biggest talent the world had witness. Hand of God. Drugs. Alcohol. Destructive lifestyle. Mafia. Corruption. It’s all there.

Then there are the other side of him. Unique leadership. Charismatic beyond imagination. A heart of gold. A one man show. A football general who almost singlehanded took his national team to a World Cup victory. The world of football has never witnessed anything like it, not before him and not after.

First we admired his unique talent. Then some of us hated him. Hand of God. Drugs. Cocaine. Then we felt sorry for him. Time goes by and again we still can’t decide if he’s the best ever or not but we can’t ignore him. Then he dies. It’s empty and in the end we are left with nothing but genuine love. A magician. The true meaning of being a legend. Something unique and unmatched.

There you have it. Diego Armando Maradona. Being the best isn’t good enough if we can’t love you. RIP your genius. You where something else.
Well said. Could not have be said in a better way. There were many great players and there will be but nobody as charismatic as him.
 

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Or England could have lost to Belgium or West Germany? That West German team had many fantastic players and England hadn’t exactly set the world on fire before that game. Their first goal came in the third game of the tournament.

And it wasn’t as if Linekar didn’t try to do the same exact thing in the game but failed to palm it in.
True on both counts but if you are a top level sportsman you always back yourself to win surely?

I can't remember who said it - might have been Lineker himself - but it was something along the lines of "yes the first one was not a goal but the second was worth two so there you go" which is a nice way of dealing with losing a knockout game.
I can't be bothered editing down the entire post above @Haddock to isolate the relevant quotes but "the guys public legacy outside Argentina seems to come down to two moments" is an incredibly myopic Anglocentric statement reinforced by your ridiculous comparison to Luis Suarez.
1. I'm not English and I'm not inundated in Anglophone media. Why don't you try asking the average person or even a serious football fan born after 1990 what they think of when they hear the name Diego Maradona. I suspect the answer will be "football", "hand of God", "goal of the century" "world cup Mexico" or some combination of all those things.

2. Why is it ridiculous to compare it to what Suarez did? He also tried to get an unfair advantage, succeeded and got as far as a semi-final.
 

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I watched the whole of his career and saw him live a couple times, best ever in my opinion. Would have been interesting to see Messi and Maradona swap era's as I believe they would have achieved similar results to one another.

I don't judge my sporting heroes on their moral compass as it would ruin their legacy for me. I love all sports and want to enjoy their talent and the thrill it gives me, whether they go home and stick cocaine up their nose or have numerous affairs is totally irrelevant. Our two biggest idols in Best and Giggs wouldn't meet a morality test, that's for sure.
 

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Interesting that you think everyone should bow to the majority opinion. I can see why anyone who supports England/or who actually played in that game remains bitter. They had a shot at glory and were basically robbed. There are always plenty of papers devoted to publishing panegyrics to Maradona.

Well Vickery is a dyed in the wool South American football fan who has to justify it. It's sort of amazing how despite everything he did including winning Serie A with Napoli the guy's entire public legacy outside Argentina seems to come down to two moments.

I wonder if fans who feel so charitable towards Maradona today will sum up the same generosity when Luis Suarez passes.


Zidane's headbutt for sure. Possibly Charisteas' winner for Greece or Eder's? I'd say Aguero's goal or Michael Thomas' goal but club football isn't the same as representing a nation let alone one as invested in football as Argentina. Then there's the status of the player: Maradona was a player of obvious greatness. Eder is the opposite of great.
So weird,