This is literally it. No more no less.
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No. It's black and curly actually.You have purple hair, don't you
Agreed. It’s probably the equivalent of saying Something like “thanks buddy” in England but the reference to black means the FA will have to punish him no matter what the context of the post is. He will probably be aghast by this bit will learn quickly our culture compared to his own.
Isn’t this like a black mate calling me white chocolate? Neither myself or no one else I know has ever had a problem with that. Unless it’s malicious I don’t see why there’s a problem.
That is EXACTLY what it is like.
Right, better get to printing some T shirts
fecking FA no good fat pricks creating a controversy where none exists.
I bet some scouser in the fa hierarchy initiated this.
I bet some scouser in the fa hierarchy initiated this.
Let me ask you this - do you even understand what racism is/means?
It was mentioned on MOTD.
Apparently, as soon as it was pointed out to Cavani that it isn't an appropriate word to use, he deleted the post.
Apparently, as soon as it was pointed out to Cavani that it isn't an appropriate word to use, he deleted the post.
Won’t see this guy for a few months then. Annoying.
You sir, are a quality poster. Very lucky to spend my 5 post a day replying to you.
Now, the actual feck i'm talking about is the quote you quoted me on.
"Without CONTEXT words and actions have no meaning at all." <----------- this one. Remember?
Now, that is the quote of a famous English anthropologist, social scientist and linguist Gregory Bateson.
Google it.
Have a good night.
Whether this flies in South America is irrelevant, he is employed in the UK and it is not appropriate in the UK.
He also has a job that has a regulatory body (FA) that has a code of conduct he has to adhere to... and using a racist term in a colloquial way doesn't uphold the standards required by the FA and his employer Manchester United.
Who or what is considered white, black or otherwise in most South American countries is very different from both the US and the UK. Plenty of people deemed black in US under the one drop policy would not readily identify themselves as such if they came from South America.
Amazed we don't brief players from different backgrounds on what's to be expected here. Especially with everything going on right now with BLM.
Racially abusing someone (Suarez) vs using an innocuous term in your native language that English speakers think is racist (Cavani).
I don't think that's related to the fact that he's playing in English football, for an English club whereby the English FA will investigate it. If this happened for PSG would England have anything to do with this incident ?
He's not racially abusing anyone. He's replying to a post in a friendly way, in Spanish. Who are the FA to tell Cavani what a Spanish word means?
Bernardo Silva got a one match ban and fine for his tweet. I am not familiar with the usage of this word in South America but I don't think any potential punishment should exceed the punishment handed out to Bernardo Silva.
More than most thank you very much. Shouldn't make assumptions, and you've made a couple already.
Different words have different meanings in different languages. Haven't we all seen people with names that are actually abusive words in another language ?
FA did accept that the term Negrito could be used in an affectionate way, but didn't belive Suarez did so:
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I don't mean to be disrespectful but I'm astounded weekly at how many posters lack the most basic of common sense.
It's probably more like the Bernardo Silva incident where he used some kind of black emoji in relation to teammate Mendy, rather than the Suarez saga. I felt Bernardo got a little hard done by at that time, since I think context should always matter, and when someone's joking with a good friend in a relatively innocent way I think it's worth a warning and maybe some extra education or being forced to apologise at best in terms of punishment. Actually giving them a ban from playing seems so harsh if there's no malicious intent.
Interestingly enough I was watching some documentaries on Maradona this week and I heard he was being refered to as 'negrito' as well at times. It seemed like it's a word also used in South America for people with black hair? For example:
https://qz.com/1938957/naples-mourns-maradona/
"It worked for him—El Negrito (the little dark kid) from the slums of Villa Fiorito who, on that field, became El Pibe de Oro (the golden kid)"
Interestingly enough I was watching some documentaries on Maradona this week and I heard he was being refered to as 'negrito' as well at times. It seemed like it's a word also used in South America for people with black hair? For example:
https://qz.com/1938957/naples-mourns-maradona/
"It worked for him—El Negrito (the little dark kid) from the slums of Villa Fiorito who, on that field, became El Pibe de Oro (the golden kid)"
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Interesting. While I'm sure most don't have bad intentions, it does seem like colourism is at the heart of some of these terms, but that's a whole other discussion.
There you go. I was not aware that this word was completely banned in England like the n word. In any case, the FA investigating simply means they accepted a complaint from someone and would look into it. Most likely nothing will happen, or a warning at worst.
What about the popular songs in the UK which have the n word in the lyrics ?
They banned Rooney because he was swearing while celebrating a goal and it was picked up by the microphone on the byline. They also banned Rooney and Scholes for red cards in a pre season tournament. United players get banned for the slightest infraction but it never sets precedent for some reason. Cavani will get a ban and fine for this.
It is definitely relevant, given its the context that shows this has zero bad intentions.
He just needs to apologise for any offense caused (which is probably none anyway) I reckon, and that'll be that.
I didn't say he racially abused anyone.
I said he used a racist word in a colloquial way - which is inappropriate.
Has the FA officially deemed 'negrito' as a racist term?
Sorry to hear that but it’s not what I asked. Do you know the definition of what constitutes as racism?
Still doesn't technically make it a racist term. It's just the way you use to identify the action as racist. If someone say something like "I hate jews" you wouldn't say the word jew is anti-semitic, you're solely concerned about the sentiment there.
Expecting Cavani to even apologize for something like this is really giving in to idiocy. Negro is not the same word as nigger, it doesn't have the same meaning, it's a different language all together.
Just great. Last thing we need now is him being banned after today's performance
Completely different to Suarez or Bernardo Silva's situation.
There was no bad intention or malice in Cavani's post, it was showing gratitude if anything. A warning is the absolute maximum the FA should go.
There used to be a world where you corrected people that made unknowing mistakes rather than vilifying them.
There was no bad intention or malice in Cavani's post, it was showing gratitude if anything. A warning is the absolute maximum the FA should go.
There used to be a world where you corrected people that made unknowing mistakes rather than vilifying them.
Who gives a shit? Literally nobody is offended. feck off with this cancel culture BS.
Actually, he just said black.
When the person who it was aimed at isn't complaining then surely some random person cant be a complainant.
I always thought Suarez just straight up said “negro”? Why would he use a supposed term of endearment when in an argument with a black man?
Cavani will get a ban for this but not sure it’ll be 8 games like Suarez.
Cavani will get a ban for this but not sure it’ll be 8 games like Suarez.
He'll surely get a ban for that. No doubt in my mind. He surely didn't mean it with any negative connotation, but it was never going to be such positively in Europe really. A learning experience if nothing else for him. Shame he'll probably be banned just as he's coming into a bit of form.
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