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Lingard seems to be the best example of this.
Harsh would have been Ole ranting on him. Lingard was awful for long and it is not a surprise lingard was slowly dropped.Why do you say that? I think that’s very harsh on Jesse to use him.
Lingard was dropped because he’s not that good and he’s not better than Bruno. Saying he was awful etc when was he ever really good? Tell me.Harsh would have been Ole ranting on him. Lingard was awful for long and it is not a surprise lingard was slowly dropped.
He was never good bar his purple patch in 17-18 season. I still believe had he stayed grounded and worked hard he would have been a solid squad player even today. His attitude after the 17-18 season where he was acting like he has achieved all was frustrating. Not a surprise how in last year or so he has become quite.Lingard was dropped because he’s not that good and he’s not better than Bruno. Saying he was awful etc when was he ever really good? Tell me.
I think it’s easy to always think bad decisions and a ‘curvy’ lifestyle means you will fail. Unfortunately he’s not that talented for a United level first team player. He is however a very good play and I feel he would work well in a system. However asking him to be our number 10 and some type of creator will always give us the result we got. Mason Mount will go the same way all though Mount is very talented but Chelsea is too big for him to be their number 10.He was never good bar his purple patch in 17-18 season. I still believe had he stayed grounded and worked hard he would have been a solid squad player even today. His attitude after the 17-18 season where he was acting like he has achieved all was frustrating. Not a surprise how in last year or so he has become quite.
Aside from being the forwards coach of our most devastating forward line in this century?We had arguments for our case, you may not agree with them but we (or at least I) try to make a point and stand for my opinions, if you don't see what I see or agree with me, that's not my problem, that's your problem. Should mods get stuck in because you don't agree? Very weird comment. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. You, on the other hand, didn't bring anything to the discussion bar a laughing smiley like a child. You can do better.
I hear you, but what are you basing that around? Has he coached anyone to excel at that, what's his merit there? Or is it just because he was a good striker himself? IMO, Pep is the master there, and his work with Sterling (according to Sterling himself and all the evidence in his development) for example is a much stronger argument for Pep. I think that Rashford, with Pep, could become world-class.
Regarding Rashford in the box, Ole can just tell him, or train him, to do that? No? I think both Martial and Rashford would become world-class if they were more ruthless. They both seem to have that showboating-aura around them. Like Martial's finishing yesterday.
Tevez, Rooney, Ronaldo? Did you say that with a straight face? What did he teach them?Aside from being the forwards coach of our most devastating forward line in this century?
Some good Ole quotes from one of the post-match interviews.Exactly the same point I was coming here to make. 21 of our 34 league goals this season were scored after half time. We frequently look a better side in the second half.
Now the counter argument to that is 'he should have set us up better to begin with' and that argument has some merit, but its always going to be easier to make informed adjustments at the midway point rather than before. There are more 'knowns' to work with at half time.
Stats actually show that Ole's 'in game management' is pretty strong.
“At half-time, it was very important for us that we settled our grievances. I know the emotions were running high and the players disagreed with some of the decisions that were made out there, so it was our job to calm them down and focus on the things we can control and we did that.”
He taught Haaland.Tevez, Rooney, Ronaldo? Did you say that with a straight face? What did he teach them?
Not a dig at Ole either. I would have had the same response if you told me Zidane was forwards coach for Benzema, Ronaldo and Bale.
Ole coached them after he retired.. Didn't you know? He has done work on several forwards and he has a lot to teach forwards.Tevez, Rooney, Ronaldo? Did you say that with a straight face? What did he teach them?
Not a dig at Ole either. I would have had the same response if you told me Zidane was forwards coach for Benzema, Ronaldo and Bale.
Yeah, one have to enlighten those who need it However, I guess it is kind of like trying to convince a Trump supporter that Biden won the election. Not easy, even with facts and evidenceI can’t for the life of me understand why you still bother with that guy. He’s never going to give Ole any real credit, backhanded compliments is as good as it gets.
Alright then, keep fighting the good fight. I’d rather not see anyone storming Old Trafford!Yeah, one have to enlighten those who need it However, I guess it is kind of like trying to convince a Trump supporter that Biden won the election. Not easy, even with facts and evidence
He's just not very good and him getting so many minutes for us was a clear indicator of our standards dropping. He did show a brief purple patch of form which suggested he might take the step up into a semi decent player but that immediately tailed off after a few games yet he lived off that purple patch for far, far too long. He'll be off in the Summer if not this window.I think it’s easy to always think bad decisions and a ‘curvy’ lifestyle means you will fail. Unfortunately he’s not that talented for a United level first team player. He is however a very good play and I feel he would work well in a system. However asking him to be our number 10 and some type of creator will always give us the result we got. Mason Mount will go the same way all though Mount is very talented but Chelsea is too big for him to be their number 10.
He got a woman pregnant probably lost his head because of it and it’s matured him. Unfortunately it all happened when the club was having a bad time. Unfortunate but that’s it. I don’t believe it has anything to do with us weeding out the ‘toxic’ etc etc.
Lukaku was used lot by Ole. Lukaku was the one who said he wanted to leave while Ole wanted him to say. How many times until anyone can accept the fact it was against Ole‘s decision to let Lukaku go, it was the player.Lukaku as well.
Ole didn’t ask him to be no 10 creator. Just ask to do the basic right, Lingard couldn’t even control a pass last season that triggered Ole’s reaction below:I think it’s easy to always think bad decisions and a ‘curvy’ lifestyle means you will fail. Unfortunately he’s not that talented for a United level first team player. He is however a very good play and I feel he would work well in a system. However asking him to be our number 10 and some type of creator will always give us the result we got. Mason Mount will go the same way all though Mount is very talented but Chelsea is too big for him to be their number 10.
He got a woman pregnant probably lost his head because of it and it’s matured him. Unfortunately it all happened when the club was having a bad time. Unfortunate but that’s it. I don’t believe it has anything to do with us weeding out the ‘toxic’ etc etc.
Ole wanted Lukaku to play a rotational role instead of being the main man. That's why Lukaku wanted to leave. I think that's what Lukaku said in a podcast in the summer he left to Inter.Lukaku was used lot by Ole. Lukaku was the one who said he wanted to leave while Ole wanted him to say. How many times until anyone can accept the fact it was against Ole‘s decision to let Lukaku go, it was the player.
I need to hear it, never heard Lukaku said such thing about rotational role. From my understanding Ole wanted Lukaku to fight for his spot which a message to everyone no one is guaranteed starting spot here. Lukaku was guaranteed starting spot under Jose that Jose played him despite of not scoring goal for 10 games in all competitions in a row.Ole wanted Lukaku to play a rotational role instead of being the main man. That's why Lukaku wanted to leave. I think that's what Lukaku said in a podcast in the summer he left to Inter.
Yes, this was what he said. Basically, under Ole, he wasn't going to be the main man in the team.I need to hear it, never heard Lukaku said such thing about rotational role. From my understanding Ole wanted Lukaku to fight for his spot which a message to everyone no one is guaranteed starting spot here. Lukaku was guaranteed starting spot under Jose that Jose played him despite of not scoring goal for 10 games in all competitions in a row.
Give me a young Messi and Barcelona, an already dominant Bayern Munich and City's ill gotten billions and even I might attain that moniker.As a player himself, probably. As a manager and coaching players to excelling there... eh... Pep is probably the best attacking manager of all time.
They can all do the basics. We are Manchester United.. that’s not enough. It’s probably also why he failed to even do the basics. The pressure is different at this level. Bruno can hack it... Lingard can’t.Ole didn’t ask him to be no 10 creator. Just ask to do the basic right, Lingard couldn’t even control a pass last season that triggered Ole’s reaction below:
So Ole didn’t ask him to be some type of creator.They can all do the basics. We are Manchester United.. that’s not enough. It’s probably also why he failed to even do the basics. The pressure is different at this level. Bruno can hack it... Lingard can’t.
My name is Martial FC, you know that player that plays upfront for the team you support ? Yeah him. I’m offended that you’d even suggest that im one of those so called fans. Just because we are where we are, top of the league. Doesn’t mean that we will stay there. The standard of the league is awful in my opinion, we have been extremely lucky to be where we are. Long may it continue and I hope we carry on our form. I still don’t think Ole is brilliant tactically, I don’t get why I get slated for having an anti Ole opinion. Half of you change like the wind depending if we win a game.Listen Martia - you have clearly put LFC in your name aka Liverpool Football Club, so it’s obvious you’re a Liverpool fan. Why even pretend?
You honestly expect me to believe that your name is Martial FC and not Martia - LFC? Pull the other one.My name is Martial FC, you know that player that plays upfront for the team you support ? Yeah him. I’m offended that you’d even suggest that im one of those so called fans. Just because we are where we are, top of the league. Doesn’t mean that we will stay there. The standard of the league is awful in my opinion, we have been extremely lucky to be where we are. Long may it continue and I hope we carry on our form. I still don’t think Ole is brilliant tactically, I don’t get why I get slated for having an anti Ole opinion. Half of you change like the wind depending if we win a game.
No the standard of the League is not awful - the results in Europe clearly tells another story. Liverpool, Chelsea and City have been worse than usual, while a lot of other teams have been much better (Us, Everton, Villa, Southampton and Leicester). It is a much more competitive League - but it's not awful.My name is Martial FC, you know that player that plays upfront for the team you support ? Yeah him. I’m offended that you’d even suggest that im one of those so called fans. Just because we are where we are, top of the league. Doesn’t mean that we will stay there. The standard of the league is awful in my opinion, we have been extremely lucky to be where we are. Long may it continue and I hope we carry on our form. I still don’t think Ole is brilliant tactically, I don’t get why I get slated for having an anti Ole opinion. Half of you change like the wind depending if we win a game.
Listen Martia - you have clearly put LFC in your name aka Liverpool Football Club,
My name is Martial FC
You honestly expect me to believe that your name is Martial FC and not Martia - LFC? Pull the other one.
It’s honestly a coin toss and Smith deserves it! Who cares about manager of the month.Tweet
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Lukaku asked Ole to leave, and Ole granted him permisison to go. Lukaku has been vocal about that in serveral interviews how much he respects him for it.Lukaku was used lot by Ole. Lukaku was the one who said he wanted to leave while Ole wanted him to say. How many times until anyone can accept the fact it was against Ole‘s decision to let Lukaku go, it was the player.
Lindelof has always been before Bailly in the pecking order. Bailly is a backup CB. He has had good games lately but he is still a backup. Its good having a backup that can have really good games.Big decision to start Lindelof over Bailly. Not sure about that decision but let's see if it works out.
Yeah, but the issue is Lindelof is shit and Bailly has been playing well.Lindelof has always been before Bailly in the pecking order. Bailly is a backup CB. He has had good games lately but he is still a backup. Its good having a backup that can have really good games.
The issue is Lindelof is not shit at all and is a very good CB and deserves far more respect than he’s getting.Yeah, but the issue is Lindelof is shit and Bailly has been playing well.
Anyway, it's done now. Let's hope its not a decisions that costs us.