The Resurgence Of Shaw

[Irwin99]

One of the many things he's improved on is getting rid of that damn habit of pulling players back by the shirt and getting a yellow card. That was incredible the amount of times he seemed to get booked for that. Maybe he's in much better shape physically now so he doesn't need to do it anymore.

I didn't think he'd get to this level of consistency so kudos to him. People worried about AWB should have some hope that he'll follow Shaw's example.

 

[MAME DIOUF 32]

Really impressed by the way he takes responsibility and tries to make things happen in attack when we need a goal, not just when we're on top anyway. A very important player now.

 

[King Azaz the Unabridged]

Shaw's been very good since coming back from the last injury, but I'm not buying the narrative in a few posts here that this is just people noticing his performances now. He was shite up until the Everton game, poor again against Leipzig when he came back, and would have given up a goal against City too by being typically oblivious of an attacker running off him.

He made a huge impact after replacing Telles at halftime against Wolves and has continued to play well since. Looks fitter and faster than last season, much more willing to drive forward with the ball and get to the byline. Let's see more of that please.

 

[Oranges038]

More than anything I think the arrival of a genuine rival for his spot has lit a fire under him and encouraged him to get his arse in gear.

 

[Handré1990]

His attacking game has improved so much, I hope our players starts converting the chances. He should have had so many assists this season.

This! Don’t think it’s something I’d have said about him before. He’s started to pick out his team mates, next step is them putting away some of the chances he creates and he’ll do it more and more. Positive reinforcement and all that.

 

[Teja]

He also makes so many more overlapping runs than Telles does. Doesn't get picked out nearly as often as he should but the option is always there.

 

[Redlyn]

We need to find a shaw on the right. I am over AWB.

 

[croadyman]

We need to find a shaw on the right. I am over AWB.

Looks like another one for the summer but already still need a starter RW, CB & CDM

 

[ClaytonBlackmoorLeftPeg]

More than anything I think the arrival of a genuine rival for his spot has lit a fire under him and encouraged him to get his arse in gear.

that and the manager can manage his games. We now have a capable deputy, which we haven’t had before with Shaw.

 

[Adnan]

He's always had the ability but it was about bringing it all together which Solskjaer has to take credit for. It was reported in The Athletic that Shaw wasn't confident in his dribbling in the build up phase and Solskjaer has worked with him and made him believe which has brought him along very nicely.

 

[GoldanoGraham]

Think being able to string multiple games together without being injured has been massive for him. If there is any player that needs to consistently play to get into the groove it’s Shaw.....fingers crossed he can stay fit for a prolonged period

 

[Mr.Ridiculous__]

The Title of the thread sounds like the latest installment in the Fast and the Furious series.

 

[Olecurls99]

To be fair to Shaw, I think he’s always been a lot better than a lot of people on here give him credit for. I’ve always rated him and haven’t really ever seen the LB position as a problem area when he’s been fit, only when we don’t have great cover for Shaw when he’s injured.

Spot on. I never understood the criticism of Shaw when he was fit. A confident defender and composure personified on the ball.

 

[Skills]

The most impressive thing about Shaw is that he always been such a fundamentally sound footballer. His basics are impeccable - his first touch, control and passing. Same with his defending - he's very good in the air, has solid positioning and a good tackler too.

He seems to have that Rooney-like ability to just decide he wants to become good at something on a football pitch, and actually manages to do it with little trouble. I didn't see Luke Shaw the set piece specialist coming.

 

[United58]

The Title of the thread sounds like the latest installment in the Fast and the Furious series.

 

[Still ill]

God be with the days when he needed his manager running along the line beside hi telling him what to do, eh? He's come a long way.

 

[amolbhatia50k]

I think Shaw has been good for a while now. He just hadn't got the credit he deserved until now. It helps that he's started crossing it more

 

[Denis' cuff]

I tend to be quite charitable with most United players, regarding form, etc but can’t help but feel a bit annoyed that it has taken several years of shit form and finally, a rival for his spot for him to lay off the pies. Also think he has had awful positional sense and “ball watches” but yes, of course he has finally made a sustained effort, so far. Whatever the previous, glad to see a good outcome. He really looks the part when he puts his mind to it, which makes the “wasted years” all the more aggravating. Not unlike Pogba. People reacting like they’re kids who have endured trauma and performed miracles to emerge. Both aged 26 and 28 this year. Ole doing something right.

 

[amolbhatia50k]

Didn't Shaw win one of our player awards a year or two back? Yet people pretend he's just come good. Maybe he's hit new heights of late, but he's been a good player for quite long. So I don't see the resurgence.

 

[Volumiza]

I tend to be quite charitable with most United players, regarding form, etc but can’t help but feel a bit annoyed that it has taken several years of shit form and finally, a rival for his spot for him to lay off the pies. Also think he has had awful positional sense and “ball watches” but yes, of course he has finally made a sustained effort, so far.

Utter fecking drivel, and the bolded bit ... completely unnecessary.

Didn't Shaw win one of our player awards a year or two back? Yet people pretend he's just come good. Maybe he's hit new heights of late, but he's been a good player for quite long. So I don't see the resurgence.

This was what I was saying, he’s always been a good player when fit, he’s been unlucky, especially with that awful injury and Mourinho’s bedside manner with him was awful. He’s a good player all the time but can also be a great one.

 

[Idxomer]

Didn't Shaw win one of our player awards a year or two back? Yet people pretend he's just come good. Maybe he's hit new heights of late, but he's been a good player for quite long. So I don't see the resurgence.

He was great last year before and after the lockdown till he got injured. His injury is what prompted Ole to buy Telles becauae Williams was a very inadequate backup in this period and was one of the reasons we lost 2 semifinals at the end of last season.

 

[Inigo Montoya]

We need to find a shaw on the right. I am over AWB.

AWB is a developing RB. The same criticism was levelled at Shaw and more iirc.

Have patience. He’s saved goal bound attempt more than once, just it gets overlooked

 

[Polar]

Shaw looks very fit now, and his performance depends a lot on fitness, probably more then usual.

Sometimes we have said: Now Shaw is fit or have to be fit, based on normal expectations, but he hasn’t. The fitness issue takes more time with Shaw.

When his fitness is perfect (like now) he is top-3 LB in the league.

 

[Adcuth]

We need to find a shaw on the right. I am over AWB.

Thats why im keeping an eye on Laird while hes on loan

 

[OnlyTwoDaSilvas]

His ball retention is seriously impressive, he might even be the best in the squad at it. How he manages to keep possession when pressed out on the touchline is excellent. He often looks certain to lose the ball or be forced into hoofing it clear, but he rarely ever does. It was something he was always pretty good at, but he seems to have gotten so much better lately.

He should be England's first choice based on performances this season.

 

[Bondi77]

Looking at Chilwell the other night...

Leicester must be pissing themselves

Not as much as the team that got 70mil for Havertz

 

[b82REZ]

I think Shaw has been good for a while now. He just hadn't got the credit he deserved until now. It helps that he's started crossing it more

Shaw had been relegated to scapegoat status under the Jose reign. Too many posters base their opinions on soundbites and articles than what actually happens on the pitch. You still regualrly see people criticise Shaw, with the same tired and predictable crap Mourinho came out with.

IMO his absence is what cost us reaching two finals last season. His impact on our attacking play is understated and we look significantly worse as an attacking unit when Luke is absent.

 

[Infra-red]

Definitely improved this season. Telles arriving has clearly caused him to pull his finger out.

Unfortunately, regarding AWB, I think the problem isn't lack of effort, but rather lack of quality. We do need a new right back, but I'm not convinced that getting one in will have the same effect on AWB that Telles has had on Shaw.

 

[Inigo Montoya]

Not as much as the team that got 70mil for Havertz

Indeed but there’s a good player there. Think the fee and being in and out has affected him.

A season too soon perhaps plus the wrong club as well

 

[Denis' cuff]

Utter fecking drivel, and the bolded bit ... completely unnecessary.



This was what I was saying, he’s always been a good player when fit, he’s been unlucky, especially with that awful injury and Mourinho’s bedside manner with him was awful. He’s a god player all the time but can also be a great one.

sorry... didn’t know his mummy posted on here

 

[Inigo Montoya]

Definitely improved this season. Telles arriving has clearly caused him to pull his finger out.

Unfortunately, regarding AWB, I think the problem isn't lack of effort, but rather lack of quality. We do need a new right back, but I'm not convinced that getting one in will have the same effect on AWB that Telles has had on Shaw.

He really doesn’t lack ‘quality’. It’s a myth. He’s getting better. Of course he’ll make mistakes but he’s proving he has what it takes to succeed at Utd

 

[Skills]

AWB is a developing RB. The same criticism was levelled at Shaw and more iirc.

Have patience. He’s saved goal bound attempt more than once, just it gets overlooked

AWB isn't half as talented as Shaw is/was. His ceiling is far lower.

 

[Volumiza]

sorry... didn’t know his mummy posted on here

Follows on well from your earlier post.

 

[Inigo Montoya]

AWB isn't half as talented as Shaw is/was. His ceiling is far lower.

In your opinion. Time will tell

I find it very odd that those who are saying that Shaw is a good player are quick to write if AWB. Thank god the coaching staff have faith in our players.

 

[Volumiza]

I find it very odd that those who are saying that Shaw is a good player are quick to write if AWB.

Yeah, agreed. I actually think, and have done for a long time that we’ve got two of the better fullbacks in the league.

 

[Marshall MQUAID]

Really impressed by the way he takes responsibility and tries to make things happen in attack when we need a goal, not just when we're on top anyway. A very important player now.

There's definitely been a step up in terms of his confidence level, with the overlapping runs showing more determination and demanding the 1-2. Whereas before it felt like 'this is what we practiced in training and this is what coach wants me to do' kinda thing. I'll go so far as to say now that we've not even seen his best.

 

[Lentwood]

I don’t think it’s rocket science. Shaw has always been class but had an absolute horror injury at the worst time in his development and that obviously set him back.

I don’t like making excuses for players generally but I can’t stress how much a bad injury can effect you mentally. I managed to injure myself quite badly, nowhere near as bad as Shaw, but did fracture and dislocate my knee in a tackle and it lingers in your mind constantly afterwards.

Also, Shaw is the type of player who has the “Rooney” build, being naturally stocky and barrel-shaped. The more he plays, the better he gets as his fitness improves

 

[romufc]

I don’t think it’s rocket science. Shaw has always been class but had an absolute horror injury at the worst time in his development and that obviously set him back.

I don’t like making excuses for players generally but I can’t stress how much a bad injury can effect you mentally. I managed to injure myself quite badly, nowhere near as bad as Shaw, but did fracture and dislocate my knee in a tackle and it lingers in your mind constantly afterwards.

Also, Shaw is the type of player who has the “Rooney” build, being naturally stocky and barrel-shaped. The more he plays, the better he gets as his fitness improves

I think alot of people wont know the impact it has on footballers. They are human too, when you are 20 and break your leg and are out for a whole year, the impact is huge especially at the start of your career.

Then you come back and you have a manager who is not supporting you, so as a player you start to doubt yourself. The manager is sacked and a new one comes in, you start to play games but pick up injuries just when you hit form, again a mental issue because you start to think, will I ever be fit?

Luckily, he has a manager who is always believing in him, the confidence Ole is giving to Luke Shaw cannot be under estimated in this situation, because he knows to get his form back, he will make mistakes, instead of calling him out he says I want Shaw to do more of that.

Then he got Telles in, not to push Shaw out the team, to help him recover his form. Giving him a rest at the right time whilst having a very good back up.

 

[Inigo Montoya]

Yeah, agreed. I actually think, and have done for a long time that we’ve got two of the better fullbacks in the league.

Looking how poor TAA was last night I’d certainly put forward a claim that AWB is the better defender.

But I’m not writing off TAA either. Those pundits suggesting that he’s the best RB in the world put far too high praise on him. He still has work to do.

 

[Inigo Montoya]

I don’t think it’s rocket science. Shaw has always been class but had an absolute horror injury at the worst time in his development and that obviously set him back.

I don’t like making excuses for players generally but I can’t stress how much a bad injury can effect you mentally. I managed to injure myself quite badly, nowhere near as bad as Shaw, but did fracture and dislocate my knee in a tackle and it lingers in your mind constantly afterwards.

Also, Shaw is the type of player who has the “Rooney” build, being naturally stocky and barrel-shaped. The more he plays, the better he gets as his fitness improves

Didn’t help having Jose call him out in public so often