Frank Lampard's Sack Watch / Sacked

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OleBoiii

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Yes, because that's how it works. Just stick with a young manager long enough and you'll reap the rewards :lol:

Once again fans fail to realise that what we spectators see is just the tip of the iceberg. After results, it's primarily the stuff happening behind closed doors that matter.
 

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Any Chelsea fans know if it's true Marina has wanted Tuchel for ages? Kept seeing the odd article about it and now seems very relevant.
Held talks with him before he signed for PSG. We were in the middle of a transfer ban though, so he went to Paris instead.
 

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Don't know why Chelsea fans are so surprised by this. It's as if they don't know how roman and their club operate. He was fortunate he got the top 4 last season otherwise he would have been sacked then. Also, Ole for all his flaws got the better of most of our players. One could see improvement and progression. Lampard was just doing a poor job.
Strange tweet. Ole has just done better.
 

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Was hoping they would keep Frank on but could see Tuchel coming in a mile away. Franks was going to struggle satisfying and getting respect from all these players.

Will be interesting to see how he does getting thrown into a new squad. On paper he has experience with lots of big names at PSG.
 
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I quite like Frank, seems a nice guy, but I think he took this job far too early.
Totally agree. He seems intelligent, switched on, nice guy too. But the first job in a big league is nearly always a failure.

Look at Gary Neville. Even the mighty Ole had a learning curve at Cardiff. ;)
 

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I've previously said he should be given until the end of the season but the rumours of an unhappy dressing room change that. In comparison with us, I've never doubted the players are behind Ole and that's helped us dig out results when things have looked bleak. If he's not had the squad onside then it's only ever going been in one direction for Lampard.
 

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Let’s be honest, Frank is a terrible manager and the fact he has the worst record since Roman took over just hammers that home.

Football fans are heavily influenced by the narrative pushed by the media. Frank did at best an OK job at Derby County. I followed this closely because my best mate is a DCFC ST holder. They had a fantastic team that year, spent tonnes of cash of transfers and wages and Frank’s connections enabled them to loan PL quality youngsters such as Tomori, Mason Mount and Harry Wilson. You can’t really criticise a manager for losing a play-off final but I certainly don’t think it was an “achievement” either, I’d say finishing in the top six was bare minimum target.

Then we had this narrative that he somehow had his hands tied because of the transfer ban at Chelsea in his first season. OK, that’s not a positive by any stretch. They lost Hazard but had bought in Pulisic, so effectively they had lost one and gained one - albeit not the same level, admittedly.

I could understand therefore, why Frank wasn’t expected to challenge seriously for the title, but to say that scraping 4th was some big achievement was ludicrous. They had probably the best-stocked squad in the PL. They arguably had three international players in every position. The midfield options alone where ludicrous. Compare that with Ole who got 100+ PL games from Dan James, Pereira, Juan Mata, Brandon Williams, Odion Ighalo, Ashley Young, Phil Jones and Marcos Rojo...AND managed to finish 3rd...it really was a ridiculous narrative.

Again, I wouldn’t advocate sacking Frank for finishing 4th but it had to be considered par really.

Going into this season, £250m spent and they have actually gotten even worse. No plan for how to integrate these players. They all look like vanity hipster signings. Did they really extensively scout Werner, Chilwell and Havertz or did they just think “these lads will do”?

Let’s be under no illusions. Frank did a poor job and has been deservedly been sacked
I think the team is good, though. If they really sign Tuchel, he'll love working with many of those players. Mount, Ziyech, Pulisic, Havertz, Jorginho, Kovacic are typical Tuchel players I'd say.

The squad generally seems more balanced than the PSG one which with its two superstars was always somewhat of a misfit. Could come great if he's granted time.
 

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A bit harsh as their performances have not been as bad as the results suggest. It will be the perfect job to come in to as I believe their results would have improved even with Lampard staying in charge. That said, if it is Tuchel who comes in he will most likely be an upgrade on Lampard - so in that sense it will be a reasonable sacking.
 

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These club legends being given jobs they don't deserve has to come to an end. Big clubs are in a mess because of it. What happened to coaches earning their stripes?
 

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From the club website....

This has been a very difficult decision, and not one that the owner and the Board have taken lightly.

We are grateful to Frank for what he has achieved in his time as Head Coach of the Club. However, recent results and performances have not met the Club’s expectations, leaving the Club mid-table without any clear path to sustained improvement.

There can never be a good time to part ways with a club legend such as Frank, but after lengthy deliberation and consideration it was decided a change is needed now to give the Club time to improve performances and results this season.

Roman Abramovich said,
“This was a very difficult decision for the Club, not least because I have an excellent personal relationship with Frank and I have the utmost respect for him’.

“He is a man of great integrity and has the highest of work ethics. However, under current circumstances we believe it is best to change managers.

“On behalf of everyone at the Club, the Board and personally, I would like to thank Frank for his work as Head Coach and wish him every success in the future. He is an important icon of this great club and his status here remains undiminished. He will always be warmly welcomed back at Stamford Bridge.”


The Club will be making no further comment until such time as a new Head Coach is appointed.
 

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That's my feeling as well. When he was linked to the job at the time I said I felt Lampard was too smart to take it, that he would be walking into a club that had eaten up and spat out far more experienced managers. I suppose he felt the transfer ban gave him some good grace that he could build on, and to be fair it did, but he would have had to do extraordinarily well for it to last. When he does inevitably get sacked, it will be interesting to see what he does next.
Very few are able to take a top job so early, least of all Chelsea who are as ruthless as the Spanish giants. He should have stayed at Derby or looked for premier league club that was a little lower down.
 

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So he leaves Chelsea with his best achievement being a fourth place finish. I understand the context of the transfer ban but the history books will remember him as achieving very little.
 

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Totally agree. He seems intelligent, switched on, nice guy too. But the first job in a big league is nearly always a failure.

Look at Gary Neville. Even the mighty Ole had a learning curve at Cardiff. ;)
Ole had plenty of experience before moving here but still came across as a little inexperienced when he got here. It was a surprisingly short sighted decision from Lampard to take this one.
 

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Strange tweet. Ole has just done better.
The situations aren't in any way comparable.

Ole had plenty of experience before moving here but still came across as a little inexperienced when he got here. It was a surprisingly short sighted decision from Lampard to take this one.
If you're offered the big job you take it though don't you?
 

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An actual Abramovich quote. I don't think I've ever seen him comment on manager sackings.
Yeh I think first time RA did that. Must be very painful to him at personal level given the history.
 

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18 months in and I have no idea what his preferred style is. I suspect its the cross it to Giroud style rather than the keep the owner happy trying to pass it forward way of playing since that was his go to tactic when put under pressure.
You can tell he has a great relationship with the media going by the reaction to his sacking
 

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How do you know he hasn't been sacked? They'd have done it but not announced it yet as he's probably still clearing his desk!
There are ways to do this kind of thing. Clearly a whole bunch of people have been briefed (leaked) this information before an official club announcement has been made. That's the wrong way.
 

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I'm surprised at the timing. Why let him take charge on the weekend?
 

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All went wrong for him when he splashed the cash and dropped the youth players. The expectation went through the roof and the price tag was high for these players but in reality what they are putting in on the pitch is crud.

Abraham is better for this league and style of play than werner. Tomori was as good if not better than any of their other centre backs. Mount is better than havertz. Spent 50 mil on a bang average left back. Mendy isn't anything special in goal. Too many players in the squad.

it will take tuchel or whoever a while to sort this out
 

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I think the team is good, though. If they really sign Tuchel, he'll love working with many of those players. Mount, Ziyech, Pulisic, Havertz, Jorginho, Kovacic are typical Tuchel players I'd say.

The squad generally seems more balanced than the PSG one which with its two superstars was always somewhat of a misfit. Could come great if he's granted time.
The squad is good. This has been my point all along. You can’t compare Frank with Ole and Mikel Arteta who genuinely inherited poor squads.

I’m not saying the Chelsea squad is perfect or should be challenging for league titles but it is more than capable of being at least competitive with the Utd, Spurs and Leicester’s of this world
 

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Watching the game yesterday it was obvious we have major problems behind the scenes in the dressing room... Guess our ownership was watching as well...
What happened? I did not watch Chelsea's game.
 

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Mendy has been fine.

Who has been better for us than Mount this season?

I agree Havertz and Werner have been shit.
But you can’t play a Mount after having just signed Haverz, Pulisic, Ziyech and a few others for the same position. If you make big money signing and don’t play them, you lose a dressing room and get a sack...
 

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What is very interesting is Lampard is actually doing better (+1 point) than Ole was last season after 19 games (where we started off awfully and the club stuck with him when it seemed he would be sacked) in a relatively similar situation (lots of new 1st team players coming in). I guess we'll have a pretty good idea of which approach is 'better' come May this year!
 
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