[Born2Lose]

Interesting watch!

 

[VeevaVee]

Steaming tumescent rotten disgusting dogshit

 

[Green_Red]

Was our disallowed goal wrong? It would have made a big difference. On to Arsenal and hopefully see a better performance.

 

[croadyman]

So annoyed

Martial needs to be dropped, for a prolonged period. If we can’t have Cavani playing all games, then Greenwood comes in, ya know, in his actual position.

Rashford is either brilliant. Or woeful. More often than not this season, it’s woeful. And he should never be shoehorned into the side on the right.

So frustrated to hear Ole talk about Rashford and Martial learning from Cavani...his movement, his work rate, but come match day, there’s no sign of it. Nothing. Statues. Ball to feet.

And why oh why Does Ole leave it longer than glaringly obvious to make changes. He’s done so much good at the club but his timing of subs is painful. No changes at half time despite quite possibly the worst first 45 in a long long time.

Yeah those two clearly aren't learning from Eddy in regards to his movement and work rate, Mason might well be but also needs to show it eventually.

Totally agree with Ole being too slow to make subs again, why he waited until 65 minutes to bring on Cavani I haven't a clue. Did he forget how impactful that change was at Southampton at HT.

 

[Isotope]

If only we're focus more on the League, we might play with more energy and focus.

But.. it's only Sheffield, they said.

 

[The Brown Bull]

I said weeks ago our position was false.
Sheffield United are a poor team. A team with title winning ambition would be pulverising them.
Shambolic defending and a lack of ungency /energy was apparent.
Top 4 would be an achievement with this team.
Very poor.

 

[Raveneye]

Meltdown? We just got beaten at home by the worst premier League team ever you lunatic

What else is new? Young, inconsistent team has off day struggling to break down an "easy" side. Every team has these games and the consensus everywhere, including here, has overwhelmingly been that Manchester United are not expected to be the title-winning team this year despite massive improvements.

If people's upper lips were half as stiff as their nipples whenever this team stumbles, they'd kiss a hole right through Pochettino's ass.

It's a bad result and we played terribly against terrible opposition, ending a really good run of results. It's not the end of the world.

 

[Pretzels81]

Mentality of glass. Cracks under pressure. Bottlers. And Ole's at the center of it all.

 

[lex talionis]

Perhaps there is a bright side to the dark cloud of this shambolic performance -- could it possibly ignite a January signing of Sancho?

Dortmund are not going to win the league and although I can appreciate they're fighting for a top four spot now Sancho hasn't been a key player for them this season and the infusion of cash on offer might not be there this summer. Or at least we should lead Dortmund to the conclusion that's it a take or leave it and feck off offer.

 

[shabz]

Underestimated Sheffield United and were very complacent all over the field.

6 of the top 10 and WBA in the next seven games. We're not playing particularly well but getting results, a blip tonight and I hope we dont capitulate going forward. I'd like to see a much more settled team going forward.

Arsenal has now become a massive game, our saving grace is that it is an away game.

 

[Sean_RedDevil]

Sheffield have scored 12 goals in the league and 4 goals were against us says everything

But hey again i'm not so dissapointed about this result because our coach is still average and most of our players still don't have the mentality to go for trophies.

 

[NICanRed]

SU overachieved last year and have been underachieving this year. They are better than a bottom team. We have been overachieving this year and although its been fun it seemed that it would only a matter of time before we were found out. You cant keep giving away the first goal and expect to keep getting away with it.
I agree with most of the comments about lack of endeavour.
Like the little girl - when we're good we're very, very good and when we're bad were rotten.

 

[Amerifan]

It’s a loss. It happens. The compressed schedule is wearing on everyone and SU isn’t as bad as the table suggests.

 

[Striker10]

We were poor but I think Martials goal should have stood and if you give their first, you give maguires first. Big decisions. We were poor but unlucky. You are not going to smash every team. The players can do better and must learn to do better at home but I know 9/10 we win that game and now it's up the players to go again. People saying we're in a false position, are not living in reality. Just like people who say Ed was proved right by not paying the money for Sancho. I think what's sad is the number of drama queens that are spoilt children.

 

[croadyman]

You can’t get away with going behind all season. Finally punished for the shocking form of our attackers. Have to say Ole pisses about with his subs, they should have each been on 20 minutes earlier.

Yeah maybe now we have finally learnt that you can't keep relying on coming back from behind and turning it around every time

 

[Cloud7]

Our margin for error pretty much disappeared tonight. We have to be as close to perfect as possible going forward to keep pace with city, and more importantly we need them to drop points somewhere along the line. All of a sudden our match against Arsenal becomes even more of a must win.

 

[Isotope]

What else is new? Young, inconsistent team has off day struggling to break down an "easy" side. Every team has these games and the consensus everywhere, including here, has overwhelmingly been that Manchester United are not expected to be the title-winning team this year despite massive improvements.

If people's upper lips were half as stiff as their nipples whenever this team stumbles, they'd kiss a hole right through Pochettino's ass.

It's a bad result and we played terribly against terrible opposition, ending a really good run of results. It's not the end of the world.

Are you Mourinho by any chance? That was a young team?

 

[James35]

Hopefully, as in talk of winning the title is somehow offensive?

Why would it be offensive? Daft is more appropriate.

 

[Ferguson’s Hairdryer]

Let’s bounce back. Like I said months ago when we were 8th and I was pessimistic this season at some stage we could be 2nd or 14th, but we’ll never be as good or bad as that and we’ll probably finish 6-8...

Now I’m optimistic... we are good enough to win this. It was one crap performance, but also Sheff Utd have recently improved. I think City will drop points, we can still take this to the last day. My actual worry is Leicester no one seems to be talking them into consideration.

The advantage we have over City, is that Ole is more pragmatic then Pep. Ole can park the bus or go all all out attack or play somewhere in between. City’s advantage is probably Pep in game management and tactical changes.

 

[MissKatie]

Fully expected that. Seen it a dozen times before from us. We're playing the bottom side, in good form and told by the media that we should be winning 8 or 9 nil and...we lose or draw 0-0.
This is nothing new.

It's a kick in the teeth though

 

[croadyman]

City will steamroll these.

Yeah they won't get a kick on Saturday

 

[croadyman]

Disaster, I don't know what we did for the first 75 minutes, passed around with no movement or pace. Ole took forever to make a change, 60 mins from Cavani and 80 mins for anyone else. Keeping Martial on was a poor decision, he offers nothing these days and too sulky. Bruno passing is a worry at the moment. Defending was pathetic as always, Maguire is not a leader and cannot lead that line. Missed our chance as City are breaking away and in very good form. Gutted with this result but top 4 is still the aim, we are not ready for a title challenge with this squad. Need a new RB, RW, holding midfielder and striker.

BANG on we need all that but our money men won't fund it

 

[cyril C]

If only we're focus more on the League, we might play with more energy and focus.

But.. it's only Sheffield, they said.

Me too. Tuanzebe and Telles should have been used in the FA game, and Cavani preserved for more important league games, but someone thought Sheffield is a walk in the park, Istanbul revisited.

 

[croadyman]

This is what you get when you go on pitch thinking you already won. I hope they have learned the lesson. Poor, poor display. Nothing more.

Rashford, Tuanzebe, DeGea, Martial should be ashamed.

Don't bet on it because we said the same after Istanbulshit

 

[Ferguson’s Hairdryer]

Our margin for error pretty much disappeared tonight. We have to be as close to perfect as possible going forward to keep pace with city, and more importantly we need them to drop points somewhere along the line. All of a sudden our match against Arsenal becomes even more of a must win.

It’s been a long time since a match vs Arsenal has any real importance... and knowing Arsenal fans they hate us so much trying to dent out title chances will make this the biggest match of their season.

 

[croadyman]

Didn't Derby win at OT when they were the worst team ever as well.

Nah we beat them twice in that 07/08 season when they got lowest ever total but never forget that 96/97 when Wanchope danced through our defence

 

[noodlehair]

It's beyond comprehension to me why we'd still pick Matic and Pogba as a midfield combo when we have literally any other choice. It has never worked and it's never going to work. Matic is too slow...and I don't mean too slow in the sense of not quite fast enough, I mean too slow in the way a push chair is too slow to use as a substitute for a Farrari. You just aren't going to get away with it in any type of system where Matic has ground to cover or has to be as quick footed as the opposition midfield...so the Pogba part is irrelevant really. It doesn't suddenly work just because Pogba is playing well, because it just doesn't work as a system.

It's not even bad management at this point it's either self destructive incompetence or insanity, in expecting the outcome to an obvious shortcoming suddenly be different for no apparent reason. If we play Matic in a two we're leaving the midfield in the hands of the opposition.

Worse, we didn't take Matic off for the ENTIRE game. I was completely convinced he'd come off after 35 minutes, when he was stood 1 yard from the ball and yet Norwood (a full 5 yards away) still beat him to it and very nearly set up a chance as a result. It's not like he isn't trying but if he's too slow he's too slow. He can't stand in midfield and hold his ground because he will forever be second to everything.

Worse still, we picked Martial up front again. I understand the need to make changes, but Martial has not even ATTEMPTED to do anything in his last, I dunno, 4-5 games? No shots, no crosses, no through balls, no taking players on. He is not trying to do anything. His most effective contribution tonight was a sideways pass to Rashford in the 84th minute, which resulted in us being able to cross the ball (which he didn't bother to get himself in the box for). At this point even if he was our only senior forward, the correct thing to do would be to pick a reserve or youth player ahead of him, or play without a striker, if only to let him know it isn't good enough to offer absolutely nothing to the team and give him a kick up the arse. Ole just picks him and then leaves him on for the ENTIRE FECKING GAME, telling Martial and every other player in our squad that you can literally do absolutely nothing and the manager will not see it as a problem or call you up on it. Or worse, telling the entire squad that this applies to some of the players but not others. If you are Martial you can do nothing and you will be picked anyway, ahead of world class strikers like Cavani. If you are Greenwood then you know you're getting hoooked off after an hour if you're not on the verge of a hatrick. If you're James/Mata/VDB you know you're not playing regardless. This isn't good management.

I get that other players were poor, but Rashford took players on and beat them, tried to put balls in, tried to get shots away. Greenwood tried to get in behind, got shots away. Fernandes tried to play people in, had shots. At least they were offering something to the team and just having poor games. You don't take one of them off and leave on someone who is doing absolutely nothing and not only that but has fallen into a routine of drifting through games doing absolutely nothing with no sign of having any will to do anything about it.

I'm quite baffled to be honest. Ole has done a lot of good work but then he serves up this absolute stupidity. Fred could have played instead of Matic. Any number of players could have played instead of Martial. He could have changed the system. He's got so many options at the moment there's no excuse to stick with somethin that's broken. Even if you let pass the obvious errors with the line up, it was very clear it wasn't working, from very early on in the game. Fair enough hindsight is easy and managers make mistakes, but after 80 minutes we had still only made ONE substitution, which did not address any of the obvious problems with the performance! Anyone watching the game could see that we desperately needed to change something.

We are already out of the CL due almost entirely to a baffling piece of poor game management by Ole, and now he's seriously dented our title hopes with an equally baffling bout of cluelessness. If he picks a team that would usually perform, try to change things around, and it doesn't work, fair enough its an off day, but what he did was create a load of his own problems and then just sat there stubbornly refusing to recognise or address them. Like Jose does when he's trying to get himself sacked or make some self destructive point. The result being probably our worst performance of the season ignoring the Spurs game.

He needs to cut this nonsense out otherwise the only inevitable outcome is that the performances and work rate will drop off sharply as soon as the confidence takes a hit.

 

[Cloud7]

It’s been a long time since a match vs Arsenal has any real importance... and knowing Arsenal fans they hate us so much trying to dent out title chances will make this the biggest match of their season.

Yeah this is probably the most important meeting with Arsenal in the post SAF era, for more than one reason. In addition to the actual result, we do need to prove to ourselves that we’re capable of bouncing back from a bad result like this, and don’t go spiraling into a series of bad results.

 

[Jericho]

Should have been the easiest 3 points of the year. Cavani needs to be starting every game now, drop Martial. And we really need to settle on a midfield.

 

[amolbhatia50k]

This was coming. I didn't believe we were truly a quality team that was good enough for the top spot or all the hype. I wanted to, but quality of football just isn't there. You can scrape wins and rely on individual moments for only so long.

 

[Heinzesight]

We’ve had many a close shave recently but in reality this type of result has been on the cards for a while. We’ve done really well with the number of players out of form or inconsistent but we have ridden our luck in a lot of games.

We do have the basis of a very good starting XI and squad, few tweaks and additions and hopefully some well earned bench time for Martial and we will be even better.

 

[Isotope]

Me too. Tuanzebe and Telles should have been used in the FA game, and Cavani preserved for more important league games, but someone thought Sheffield is a walk in the park, Istanbul revisited.

Yeh. This is a tough season, when the team is having 2-3 games per week. You can see how rejuvenate City is by having a proper rest.

But that's what you get when you have a naive manager who can not prioritize and see his team's strength. For once, we have the biggest chance to win the League in 7+ fecking years. The stars are aligned with Liverpool and City have been shite, and us keep winning with those "individual" last minutes goals.

But to his wisdom, he went hard in every fecking Cup competitions with this team. A team with only one of key players away of getting injured, and it would look mediocre. Not to mention his fetish on subbing players on 80 minutes.

But mehh... it's only Sheffield, bro.

 

[YouOnlyLiveTwice]

At the end of the day, you have two debatable decisions going in the favour of Sheffield. After our goal, we looked like we would win it. We concede a goal from terrible defending, and then its crunch time.

The players let themselves down and they know it. It's all a learning curve, no one expected us to win it this season. We can still give man city or whoever a good fight for the title. Season is far from over.

 

[glazed]

People are so funny. We're either brain dead Top Reds on a title run or manic depressive glory hunters about to be relagated. Neither is true.

We're probably the third or fourth best side in the league. We have a mediocre manager, and a weak club structure. We also have some very good players who aren't especially well coached but tend to catch fire when Bruno calls the shots from midfield.

We will sometimes lose when we shouldn't because of the above. That's the reality.

 

[Verminator]

The number of mantis praying for this result, so they can roll out their Ole-out rhetoric, is disappointing and predictable.
Sometimes, the players let you down.

Has anyone ever seen a defence do what ours did for their second goal?
We have a better squad these days, but we don't have the necessary quality of forwards at the moment.
Cavani should be good back-up, and not the only forward who can work the line.

We are close, but we need a top striker, and my grandson isn't old enough to have seen a right forward at OT, he's 7.

 

[Freak]

Are we even surprised with this bunch of bottlers?

 

[Scholsey2004]

Depressing but it fits a pattern. We do well as a counter attacking side with McTominay and Fred in the middle disrupting the opposition's midfield but when we play the more possession focused style with pogba and matic in the middle we almost invariably struggle. Obviously you can't play counter attack against teams at the bottom of the league because they won't come forward en masse and leave themselves exposed so it's a problem.

Martial's form this season has been terrible. I can't help but wonder if bringing in Cavani has put his nose out of joint. He's always been hot and cold but this season he's been mostly cold. We signed Cavani as back up for Martial. Right now it looks like we need to sign a striker to back up Cavani because Martials form has completely evaporated.

Hopefully we get back up and running soon because we were playing really well

 

[amolbhatia50k]

Can anyone remember the last two excellent pefromances from us? We always seems to be getting the results that champions do, which is obviously not somehow champions do all the time otherwise they wouldn't be champions. This is just the two running dry which was coming. Shame.

 

[Jamie Shawcross]

That Fcking stung tonight! For me there was an arrogance in that lineup. As soon as I saw it I knew we were completely underestimating Sheff Utd and I could sense danger, especially watching how lethargic we were. To be playing at home against statistically one of the worst EVER premier league sides for points tally and to play Matic our most defensive midfielder and Martial our most pedestrian attacking player, I knew we were in trouble. Them players rolled up and just expected an easy ride and it showed. Credit to Wilder and Sheff Utd, they made us look a right bunch of berks and it was a massive dose of reality. I could go on about how their first was a certain foul on De Gea and how I think our first disallowed goal was legit, but even if those had gone our way I don’t think we’d have come through tonight unscathed. Absolutely shocking. We can only hope the players realise how shockingly bad that was. So out of character. If we are to take this “title challenge” seriously, we go full strength and TAKE PLAYERS OFF EARLY to rest them, when the game is out of sight. Cavani was itching to come on, you could see him on the touch line waiting for the call. Why wait? Martial was again absolutely useless tonight. Get the game won first then shut up shop. I’m sick of watching us chase games and it’s far too often. We got stung tonight and we deserved nothing less.

We must show resilience at the weekend and put in a decent performance and grab 3 points off that resurgent arsenal side, only then can we chalk this off as a bizarre blip. Let’s hope it’s not derailed us.

 

[Red_toad]

Looking at Martial's ruled out goal, how was Maguire supposed to avoid a keeper who was jumping into the back of him? There's no way he saw him coming, so there was no intention to foul and I don't believe he did anything other than jump up in an attempt to flick the ball on, the keeper basically jumped into him and somehow got a foul from it, from what I observed.