After Sheff United beat United beat us the hope was extinguished for me.
After that Its looking at Liverpool and City, Lpool winning the title equals the 20 with us so I dont want that.
City are plastic and always will be.
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After that Its looking at Liverpool and City, Lpool winning the title equals the 20 with us so I dont want that.
City are plastic and always will be.
Lots of fans I know want City to win to reduce the chance of us finishing BEHIND Liverpool. Not necessarily to see Liverpool to suffer.
I don't think necessarily that it means a fan hates Liverpool more than they love United. That's a bit of a harsh statement.
Lets say we drop points at Everton, Liverpool win v Man City, then you've got a 4 horse race, the title is blown open. If City win, we win, then we're firmly the top 2 sides with Leicester the only side challenging that.
When is Thiago back from injury? 
Well that's bollocks. Sweeping daft statement. I potentially would want City to win because even with Liverpool's shite form I might consider them still a bigger threat to winning the league than us, and I'd much rather see City win it, and it makes us more likely to finish 2nd at the very least. Now after last nights result, my thoughts on the game on Sunday are probably a bit different, and rightfully so.
Pep has quietly done a very good job with City. Granted he probably wouldn't have been too close to Liverpool this season had all of VvD, Gomez, Thiago and Jota not gotten injured for large or very large parts of the season, but his use of midfield and good touch footballers (Gundogan, Rodri, Cancelo, Silva, KdB) with a solid defense behind gives Klopp something to aspire to.
Secretly I was hoping we would have sold Wijnaldum and dropped Firmino semi permanently to the bench because their touch is woeful when they're only half playing well. Not just bad, but woeful. Old Man Milner adds nothing against shit teams like Old Man Gundogan. All the players I've mentioned are great against big teams but the exact opposite against smaller ones.
Hopefully Klopp does not convince Gini to stay in the summer, I love him but it's time for him to go. Get rid of Shaq, Ox and Keita too because we can't have injured journeymen and bring in some ball players for the middle.
Secretly I was hoping we would have sold Wijnaldum and dropped Firmino semi permanently to the bench because their touch is woeful when they're only half playing well. Not just bad, but woeful. Old Man Milner adds nothing against shit teams like Old Man Gundogan. All the players I've mentioned are great against big teams but the exact opposite against smaller ones.
Hopefully Klopp does not convince Gini to stay in the summer, I love him but it's time for him to go. Get rid of Shaq, Ox and Keita too because we can't have injured journeymen and bring in some ball players for the middle.
Wow. I see what people mean when they talk about certain threads/ posters on here now. This is my first experience of it. I’m hoping Liverpool lose but if City were to lose I’d still be pleased to see that. City aren’t the only team we have to ‘topple’ now as you’d be beyond naive to think Liverpool are now out of it and we should be solely focusing on City. If we finish this season above Liverpool we have done very well.
The above posts have questioned whether I’m a United fan, stated that if you want Liverpool to lose this game you’re ‘nuts’ and also that ‘you hate Liverpool more than you love Manchester United‘ and that is ‘deplorable’.
If there were only a few games left and we were right in the mix, of course I’d want City to lose to give us the best chance of winning the league. Are there any others on here that are of the same viewpoint or am I on the wrong thread today?
The above posts have questioned whether I’m a United fan, stated that if you want Liverpool to lose this game you’re ‘nuts’ and also that ‘you hate Liverpool more than you love Manchester United‘ and that is ‘deplorable’.
If there were only a few games left and we were right in the mix, of course I’d want City to lose to give us the best chance of winning the league. Are there any others on here that are of the same viewpoint or am I on the wrong thread today?
Would you rather City win the league comfortable and Liverpool outside top 5 or City win the league and Liverpool in top 5.
Sorry I really can’t see City not winning the title this year. But I can see Liverpool not even get top 5.
So always a city hammer at Sunday.
Sorry I really can’t see City not winning the title this year. But I can see Liverpool not even get top 5.
So always a city hammer at Sunday.
Hoping for a draw. Points dropped from City with Liverpool continuing the rut would be lovely.
Very interested to see what unfolds at Liverpool over the next 2 or 3 years.
Mane, Salah, Firmino, Henderson, Wijnaldum, Thiago & Van Dijk are all 28-30 years old. Hopefully they make a mess of the recruitment when replacing these players / they end up with some players stuck on big contracts that are no longer worth the money (full Utd style).
Very interested to see what unfolds at Liverpool over the next 2 or 3 years.
Mane, Salah, Firmino, Henderson, Wijnaldum, Thiago & Van Dijk are all 28-30 years old. Hopefully they make a mess of the recruitment when replacing these players / they end up with some players stuck on big contracts that are no longer worth the money (full Utd style).
I think City are going to give them a good beating. Don't see Liverpool scoring.
You're a Utd fan for your own reasons. No need to question it for anyone. I was told by a die hard thug that because i put my family above Utd, I wasn't a 'real fan'
Perspective bud!
A draw would possibly suit us but a Liverpool win would not be a bad outcome.
This! They are lacking ideas. Their last 2 wins capitalised a lot on errors. City are far more disciplined
I just hope we do our job against Everton so we can enjoy sunday properly.
This season proves Firmino isn’t world class. A striker or forward who can’t score enough goals is not world class. World class forward who plays in false 9 role should be like Messi, Kane this season and Benzema not Firmino. He’s been terrible for missing too many chances. I think they need new number 9 next season and turn Firmino into no 10 or backup no 9.
And also Klopp really gambled on his centre back when he decided to sell Lovren without replacement. Matip is injury prone, while prior 19/20 season, Gómez also had poor injury record. Not much of depth quality in their defense too.
And also Klopp really gambled on his centre back when he decided to sell Lovren without replacement. Matip is injury prone, while prior 19/20 season, Gómez also had poor injury record. Not much of depth quality in their defense too.
If we beat Everton, a draw is the perfect result for us
Jota was already starting to replace Firmino before he got hurt, and was making a noticeable difference.
Wait, did anyone suggest Firmino was world class!? Mad scousers aside!?
I think he is bang average, agreed.
Oh and I want some injuries to keyplayers as well 
Realistically - if there was a vote today, how many Liverpool-players would challenge for TOTY ?
Robertson with a chance - even if I would probably pick Shaw
Salah been far from his best but you cant argue with 15 goals in 21 matches - Mane probably played better but hasn't been prolific enough
As it stands now - you could easily have a team without a single Liverpool-players - whereas last year you could argue that 7-8 players belonged in that team - some of them without competition
Robertson with a chance - even if I would probably pick Shaw
Salah been far from his best but you cant argue with 15 goals in 21 matches - Mane probably played better but hasn't been prolific enough
As it stands now - you could easily have a team without a single Liverpool-players - whereas last year you could argue that 7-8 players belonged in that team - some of them without competition
Hope Liverpool raise their game for this one.
Salah gets in so far I reckon. Unsure on everyone else, maybe the keeper if you are being very very kind.
Salah gets in for his goals alone, even though he's not really looked that great, but to be honest that's kind of been the way with Salah always?
Shaw comfortably better than Robertson.
I wouldn't be shocked if Thiago got picked just because the media love to talk about him being superb and amazing, even though he's actually been a hinderance to them.
Shaw comfortably better than Robertson.
I wouldn't be shocked if Thiago got picked just because the media love to talk about him being superb and amazing, even though he's actually been a hinderance to them.
I truly hope you’re right, but I think there’s so many twists and turns to come.
fabinho could challenge the CB slot.
Its funny though. The team should really be on cloud 9 after their recent success in years but they look tired, bereft of idea's and unmotivated.
Its great.
Its great.
Robertson is a shadow of the player he was last year and the one previous to that. He's only slightly more effective than TAA right now. Shaw has the position sewn up for me as I can't see another left-back capable of displacing him.
Salah will probably make on the basis that he's the league's top scorer, although his overall play has been less than impressive.
Fabinho has an outside chance perhaps.
I said at the time that as soon as Gomez went out that was the season done. Teams don't carry multiple season ending injuries in a single position and win the league, it was never going to happen.
Definitely disappointing we look like we aren't going to make a challenge of it but it is what it is.
Time to look forward to the summer, I think some more energy is needed now, I think there's too many approaching 30. More signings akin to Jota are needed. Glad that Wijnaldum is probably seeing his contract out, great servant but the rumours we're interested in Bissouma as a replacement would be great news. It's nice to have trust in Klopp and Edwards to get the right players in for a refresh, just have to hope the owners are willing to modestly finance it.
Also, got to say I find it mad that some of youse want City to beat us at Anfield. I can't remember any time over the last two years were I would have wanted to see City beat you, even during that formidable run in where it looked hopeless to catch them. I guess it's hard to snap back into a mentality where your team's going for trophies and your own success matters more than anything else.
Definitely disappointing we look like we aren't going to make a challenge of it but it is what it is.
Time to look forward to the summer, I think some more energy is needed now, I think there's too many approaching 30. More signings akin to Jota are needed. Glad that Wijnaldum is probably seeing his contract out, great servant but the rumours we're interested in Bissouma as a replacement would be great news. It's nice to have trust in Klopp and Edwards to get the right players in for a refresh, just have to hope the owners are willing to modestly finance it.
Also, got to say I find it mad that some of youse want City to beat us at Anfield. I can't remember any time over the last two years were I would have wanted to see City beat you, even during that formidable run in where it looked hopeless to catch them. I guess it's hard to snap back into a mentality where your team's going for trophies and your own success matters more than anything else.
I'd take a draw with the match descending into anarchy and both sides ending up with players being sent off.
I find it laughable that you place your title hopes squarely on the shoulders of a single central defender, but if that is indeed the case, then your entire tactical setup needs serious work.
Besides, title-winning sides have competent replacements ready to step in at a moments notice. The loss of one defender to one such side, no matter how good he is, would have minimal impact at best.
Perspective, indeed! Eh, not that it needs to be said but at end of the day we’re all here for the same reason. Lets hope we’re looking back on a top season come May. Nice to meet you, mate.You're a Utd fan for your own reasons. No need to question it for anyone. I was told by a die hard thug that because i put my family above Utd, I wasn't a 'real fan'
Perspective bud!
It's not one defender though, you know that. It's Van Djik, Gomez and Matip.
I might be ignoring some massive obvious example from recent history but I can't remember a title winning side losing their first three options in a single position and still winning the league. Certainly nowhere near a situation where those options don't even make 20 games combined.
I want them both to lose of course that isn't possible so a draw is next best.
City win its all but over you feel, scousers win it could rejuvenate them so a draw please.
We just need to beat Everton first which won't be a walk in the park.
City win its all but over you feel, scousers win it could rejuvenate them so a draw please.
We just need to beat Everton first which won't be a walk in the park.
Maybe - but has he been better than Maguire, Dias, Stones to name 3 ? He has been surprisingly good - but not top 2
Matip was in the team last night alongside Fabinho (who has been one of the best CB's in the league this year) and Gomez may return before the season is out. You haven't lost 3 defenders for the entire season. In any case, United won a league title after being forced to play Carrick in central defence for an extended period. Title-winning sides simply make do.
There was a large number of people hailing this Liverpool side as one of the greatest of all time not long ago. Does the loss a single central defender for the season alter that perception? Or maybe they weren't that great to begin with, maybe they found themselves in the enviable position where all potential title-challengers were in varying states of transition, allowing them a free run at the title. Maybe.
I want Liverpool to take all three points against City. That’s the only game in the next couple of weeks where I can see City dropping points. Spurs will have played two difficult games against Chelsea and Everton before playing City and are not in good form anyway. And City are definitely beating Arsenal. There is a much higher chance of Arsenal getting 2 red cards than getting 1 point against City.
Wtf what was the context, and what was the thuggery?You're a Utd fan for your own reasons. No need to question it for anyone. I was told by a die hard thug that because i put my family above Utd, I wasn't a 'real fan'
Perspective bud!
You think Liverpool will lose 3 home games consecutively? I know they are on a poor form now but form doesn't really come into factor in games like this. Let's not forget City has won't in Anfield for like what 18 years?!
They didn't really raise their level for the game against us at Anfield, I don't see how they could suddenly muster up a game raising performance in an even tougher game.
City's record is appalling there though, which is true.
I still have doubts of City beating them at Anfield. City also always seem to have a mental block against them just like how Arsenal used to have a mental block against us even in our darkest days under Moyes. No doubt if fans were allowed into the stadium at full capacity, I think Liverpool could win. We need Liverpool to beat them though as they are the only team I see who could take points off City if we have any expectation of winning the title or at least be in the running.