Yes, even if they don’t tell him.
Looking at the explanations offered and the quite frankly absurd coincidence of it all, I think there’s a chance someone on the team running his social media has thought himself a clever dick.
Fernandinho's Munich air disaster twitter post?
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Looking at the explanations offered and the quite frankly absurd coincidence of it all, I think there’s a chance someone on the team running his social media has thought himself a clever dick.
Why do we think a team runs his social media?
Bernardo silva tweeted his own thing as did cavani?if
The more we do this, the more we make it so everything footballers do needs to come from a PR instead of themselves. The more they'll distance from the fan....
People mostly remember big events they lived through. I remember 9/11 and I remember the date of Yitzhak Rabin's murder. I've no idea when JFK was murdered. It's a bigger world event, but I did not exist back then and I'm not an american.
Also, I don't remember the dates of any other football disasters. So I've no idea why you may think Fernandinho would remember what happened on Ferbuary 6, even if he's been playing in Manchester for few years. That date just isn't part of his life.
How do you stop someone from posting something that takes about a minute to do from anywhere? You can't, and yet you still take the blame. That seems ridiculous to me.
That would be like taking the blame for a building contractor breaking building regulations. Or taking the blame for an accountant incorrectly completing your tax return. These people are paid to do their jobs. You have to trust them because you have no other choice; it doesn't mean you won't be screwed by them.
In both of those cases, the building contractor and accountants would be the ones liable if the customer knew nothing about it.
The bolded is what I'm leaning towards, as well.
Footballers have been sued for this and rightly so. It's like issuing a power of attorney allowing someone to represent you before authorities or sign on your behalf. You can't just pretend you don't have a responsibility in that. It's not how thr world works. This is just twitter but your logic fails every test as far as real life examples go.
his choice of word reminded black people about slavery .
I don't really see how any of the defences for Fernandinho rule out a minimum 3 game ban.
Even if any offence was unintentional, which is a stretch, then, as has been pointed out with the Cavani ruling, that still leads to a 3 game ban if offence could be taken. Which it could, and has been.
And even if you try to say 'maybe someone else runs his twitter account and tweeted it' - those tweets are still meant to be by Fernandinho himself (use of 'my, I', etc on them) so the accountability from the whole 'public figure / role model' etc lies with him and not any employee he hires to act as him when tweeting. They should be dealt with as well, but the FA action should be against Fernandinho.
Even if any offence was unintentional, which is a stretch, then, as has been pointed out with the Cavani ruling, that still leads to a 3 game ban if offence could be taken. Which it could, and has been.
And even if you try to say 'maybe someone else runs his twitter account and tweeted it' - those tweets are still meant to be by Fernandinho himself (use of 'my, I', etc on them) so the accountability from the whole 'public figure / role model' etc lies with him and not any employee he hires to act as him when tweeting. They should be dealt with as well, but the FA action should be against Fernandinho.
Another thread for the ignore list. That's 53 now.
A plane crash emoji and an explosion on 6th feb? Thats surely not coincidence and he's been here for almost a decade now, don't be naive.
Edit : Ofcourse it could easily be some * on his PR team.
It wasnt a plane crash emoji and players post those emojis all the time
You do take the blame for both of those things.
That’s certainly NOT true for accountants in Sweden, if my accountant fecks up, I as the owner of my business am liable.
Building contractors, depends that. You are personally responsible for ensuring planning permission etc is granted.
My bad. A plane and a explosion emoji with the player spreading his hands like a planes wings. Surely a coincidence!
Pretty obvious this was not intentional and had nothing to do with the disaster. I refuse to believe anyone would do this to mock a disaster like that, regardless of where they play. Feels like a non-story, but the press will have a field day getting a rise out of opposing fans.
I think this is the most likely explanation. It's on Twitter which is hardly the social media of choice for people these days. If it was an Instagram story a-la Cavani then I could think it was the player himself.
No it didn’t. Stop trolling. Nobody was offended.
Which bit of that did I make up?
I am from Portstewart in Northern Ireland the home for many years of Harry Gregg. So learnt the history, but that is the (insert expletive)ing city captain if he does not know the history of his club which had several former players who were killed and injured in the crash. Then he does not deserve to captain the side.
His twitter post was disgraceful and should not be swept away by the uninformed.
I would like to point out our club inflicted a ban on Cantona when he jumped into the crowd with the FA increasing it after utd had already stopped him from playing for the rest of the season.
I think city should strip of the captaincy and fine him the maximum fine possible giving it to charity. His also needs a hefty ban.
Don't he is the manchester city captain.
Stop the excuses. When performing as club captain you need to learn about and be sensitive to the history of your club.
The date is remembered by both clubs as it involved former members of City aswell.
I grew up in Portstewart and was not born when the crash happened but a certain Harry Gregg lived in the small Northern Irish town.
Fernandinho is a disgrace and I think city themselves have to act. Remember utd banned Cantona before the FA for the rest of the season, the FA increased the ban.
The addition of an explosion, football and aeroplane emojis shows he knew exactly was day it was
It’s all based on ones opinion though isn’t it
I'm sure that if you told Fernandinho on February 6 that this is the day of the Munich air disaster, he'll know exactly what you are talking about and he'll know the history. But as for him naturally thinking about it during February 6? I highly doubt that. It's just not going to be ingrained in him.
People here need to stop thinking that things that have been in the center of their lives for decades and are always in their thoughts are the same for others.
Any idea that Fernandinho should be banned, by City or the FA, is ludicous.
Are you completely ignoring the pictures of him scoring and celebrating?
People are forgetting he’s Brazilians and probably doesn’t remember every year that the crash happened, especially when it wasn’t in our life time.
It's pretty obvious he (or whoever runs his socials) had no clue about what day it was
Anyone who thinks it was deliberate is as thick as he clearly is
I think an official apology would suffice
Anyone who thinks it was deliberate is as thick as he clearly is
I think an official apology would suffice
Yeah, he won't have picked up on it in EIGHT years in Manchester!
And it's perfectly reasonable that he suddenly decided to post plane related stuff on the exact day. Just coincidence
Why is it ludicrous, he put a explosion emoji a football emoji and a airplane emoji along with a laughing emoji on the anniversary of his clubs nearest rivals biggest disaster.
All where specifically chosen to emote feelings, he is absolute disgrace and I don't understand your point of view that he hasn't done anything wrong.
Quite an aggressive tone when you don't have a clue about his intentions.
Emojis of a plane followed by an explosion on the anniversary of the Munich air disaster. He could've posted this on any other day. Ignorance is not an excuse for someone who has been in Manchester for as long as he has.
How anyone can interpret that other than mocking the above tragedy lives in cloud cuckoo land and needs to be brought back to reality.
How anyone can interpret that other than mocking the above tragedy lives in cloud cuckoo land and needs to be brought back to reality.
Its blindingly obvious to me but yes it's just my opinion
I don't think he's done anything wrong because I doubt he even thought of the Munich air disaster on Saturday. Why would he, unless City performed some ceremony or something during that day? He just wouldn't be aware during the day that this is the anniversay.
If anything, I'll be more inclined to believe someone on his social media team - if such a thing exists - doing that rather than him himself.
Not in terms of the minimum 3 game ban, no. As established by the Cavani ruling. Regardless of intent, or complete ignorance of any possible offence, the very fact offence has been caused is, apparently, enough to justify the minimum 3 game ban. Any more would be for any perceived intent, which is a matter of opinion on his motives.
Many of the arguments used here to defend Fernandinho - 'it wasn't his intent, he was ignorant of how his tweet could be taken, people shouldn't assume just because something is huge to them that it must be known to others' - all applied in the Cavani situation, and were recognised by the FA, and yet the rules still dictated that, despite all that, it merited the minimum 3 game ban.
Nothing that anyone has said so far in Fernandinho's defence has explained the difference between the two - given the FA's acknowledgement of Cavani's complete lack of awareness and intent - as to why an apology would suffice for Fernandinho but wasn't enough for Cavani.
Because it is in the news players and the social media teams know what is happening.
He is the Captain of the team, not a youth team player who is not involved in press conferences and the like. He is responsible for the tweet, and that was a hate filled despicable amoral vile tweet.... so yes he should know and be responsible
I don’t think it was intentional but I’m also of the opinion the FA should be looking into it.
I hope you're right, as it'd be horrible if he did it as some sort of "banter".
Exactly what was the use of the explosion emoji supposed to convey? I don't use emojis (except the 
here) in my daily life so I really don't know.
here) in my daily life so I really don't know.To post that pic of himself with that sequence of emojis on that particular day. Sorry I’m not buying that it’s a pure coincidence. Obviously him not being a United player means nobody cares but I hope at least City have questioned him on this.
The content posted is pretty standard PR work, I haven’t seen all his accounts but you can tell it isn’t him engaging and is a Social Media professional handling the account.
Yes I would actually be surprised if he knew the date by heart. Why would he? Do you know the date that the Chapecoensce crash happened? I couldn’t even give you the month it happened even though it was global news and happened in the last 5 years. Honestly, I couldn’t even give you the date of the Hillsborough disaster (other than its in April?) even though it’s something I’m very aware of and it had a lot of developments in the last few years.
If you asked any City player what date the crash happened a few weeks ago(I.e not close to the date) and I bet you only one or two could tell you the exact date. It was a terrible tragedy but it happened 63 years ago. None of them were alive and virtually all of them have no connection to Manchester before they joined City. If Fernandinho was raised in Manchester I’d be more sceptical.