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Solskjaer's contract
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The thing about it is the contract length is irrelevant. If we gave Ole a 10 year deal everyone knows he'd be out if we failed to make the Champions League. The players know that too. Fortunately they like and respect him enough to keep him in a job.
Every time his tenure has been questioned they've stepped up and delivered big results. I don't think they need to be shown who the boss is. They're clearly playing for Ole. The clearest indication the club can give the players that its behind the boss is getting the players he's asked for. I don't think any of them would be unnerved/emboldened by Ole being on a rolling deal.
Well, not the players now. You are absolutely right. There is no doubt our dressing-room is together since Ole came in. 100% - Ole has done a stunning man-management job.
But I'm talking about the long-term; any players coming through, any players developing in their careers, any players we want to transfer in in the future.... they all need to know in no uncertain terms that the manager is the boss. That needs to be a staple in the dressing-room. Any notion of 'he could be out the door here this summer' has to be eradicated.
And it will be.
I bet the next contract Ole's secures will be a five-year plus one deal. Or, such is his dedication to our club, it may well just be a flat out six yearer. It's not as if, even if he leads us to great glory, Real Madrid or any other club on the planet is gonna tempt him away, so the club won't need the security of the plus one.
He needs to finish in the top 4 first!
Most players in their prime years are better than ever. He was excellent the season his suffered the leg break, so what if it was only a few games?
My biggest frustration with Ole is his unwillingness to make changes in games where nothing is happening and appoint some coaches who are more experienced than the current ones, however if he achieves a top 4 finish and maybe even wins a trophy then no doubt deserves a contract extension.
Nah, it will be a lifelong contract. You do know that a straight 6 year contract is more secure than 5+1 also, right?
I read £9 mill a season somewhere when he was taken on. By contrast Mourinho was reported to get £15 mill a season when he was taken on and VG £12 mill. Dont know what Moyes got, but you can bet the same as VG.
Commitment and stability, as signified by the contract extension, would be a good thing for United.
Would be typical of our board to hand him three more years after one good result only for the team to crumble completely in both league and cups.
United seems to be alone of the last of big clubs that regularly hands out long term contracts for poor performance and goes out of their way to be patient with managers for rewards that never seem to materialize.
How soon before someone replies with "if they had fired fergie in his first few seasons......."
Yes we were so patient with everyone since SAF retired. Much patient. Wow. WOW
But more to the point:
I absolutely hate the sack and move on culture that exists in football. It's the reason we no longer have Fergusons or Wengers. The only manager with noteable longevity is Sean Dyche who's been Burnley manager for 8 or 9 years I think.
Among Premier League managers of title contending clubs Jürgen Klopp is probably the current longest serving one in recent memory with his 5 year tenure of Liverpool.
Manchester Uniteds success and entire identity is built around the concept of the academy and the Boss in charge. What impatient fans want is immediate everything and to hell with everything the club stands for, just buy everyone.
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Yes, it's working so well too. Couldn't ask for more really.
Yes you are awful in front of goal - but if you look at the goals Brighton give away - it's simply awful defending time and time again.
I would rather say your midfield does well not to give too many chances away - but if you look at the goals against, that's not good defending.
Leicester 2 awful goals - one was the goalkeeper all by himself, the other was your central defenders going walkabout.
WBA - free header for Bartley from a corner
Burnley - 4 Burnley-players are left unmarked in the box when they score
Palace - 2nd goal. Brighton have 2 players against Benteke - and he is allowed room to shoot on the volley, completely unmarked.
Time and time again - horrible defending leading to goals.
But luckily - you have Newcastle down there, so you might stay up.
91% chance we will according to the data
I think, success and structure are very much connected in this case. Without success your structure will not remain over time. Without structure success most likely will be a fluke.
I am sure everybody would love to have another great man in the dugout, somebody who is not questioned because it is known that he is able to bring success and to built and adjust the underlying structures. But until we are there, it will take a long time because SAF could do what he wanted because he brought success, trophies and admiration for great football games. Lets talk about how well suited or not suited Ole is when he started to actually bring some success back to the OT. When he at least went more than one or two steps on the road, that SAF went 100 steps on.
To ensure continuity (which is not necessarily connected to the manager in itself) it would be good to have some sort of institution within the club, that is accountable for sport decisions, name it Director of Sports or whatever you want. Main thing is, have somebody there being responsible and accountable for continuity. Why not this guy, Bout, that oversees similar things for the academy, it is better than having nobody there and we shouldn't put too much tasks and responsibilities on the managers shoulders.
To close the bow to Ole: lets wait until the April or May and then announce a new deal (as long as nothing catastrophic happens). There is no viable alternative available anyway. Just replacing him for the sake of getting rid, is not smart. Him having a deal would also be good for recruiting as incoming players now have some sort of perspective what sort of manager Solskjaer is and thats certainly better than signing for some sort of "project".
Am I totally wrong thinking the two "new" directors also is a sign Ole still is the longterm manager Woodward wants. I think a 5 year contract coming up soon. No waitin until may, to assure we are having a progress before disisiontime. If the decision already is made I kind of hope they wait to announce it.
Its also a bit The United way to leek the Bruno "demands" before he sign a new contract... and then announce Ole, and the new Bruno- contract the day after... meaning no one can get angry at Woodward for the Ole extension, because our favorit Bruno wants to....
Its also a bit The United way to leek the Bruno "demands" before he sign a new contract... and then announce Ole, and the new Bruno- contract the day after... meaning no one can get angry at Woodward for the Ole extension, because our favorit Bruno wants to....
Looking around the league, it is quite evident that Solskjaer is the most qualified and deserving of the position.
Ah yes, let's sack our "out of his depth" manager who has only won two titles in Norway and bring in the manager who *checks notes* has won one title in Sweden
Might aswell lock this thread. If he somehow finished 6th now he’d get a new contract with his boys club structure he’s helped built.
I feel that big money has flooded a bunch of clubs and with that has come impatience and a desire for instant gratification. Manchester United has rewarded mediocre players with long contracts (Phil Jones being the prime example) but going through 4 managers since Fergie retired in 2012 is the opposite of being patient with managers. Each firing has been justified, but Manchester United have had three bad managerial hires in a row and it has done massive damage to the club's reputation, culture and finances. Hiring and firing based on short term whims is how you get Chelsea, and the Glazers are not as rich as Abromovich. If Ole is showing reasonable signs of being the right man for the job, he's going to stay. At the very least the club is significantly healthier when he took over and he's going to be given a chance to show he can take Manchester United to lasting success at the highest level. Assuming he makes top 4, of course.
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Christ, they could of atleast waited until the end of the season before making a decision.
Can't say I'm happy about this, just reeks of mediocrity for a club of our stature, even more embarrassing if we drop out of the top four which is still possible.
Can't say I'm happy about this, just reeks of mediocrity for a club of our stature, even more embarrassing if we drop out of the top four which is still possible.
Jumping the gun yet again, at least wait until the end of the season to see where we’re at, because if we continue our current form things could turn pretty ugly.
£9m a year?! Surely he can give us a 'loves the club' discount?
Oh for fecks sake... no
2 losses in our last 26 games, dreadful form.
Can’t be true. It’s not like us to reward first, expect later.
I am glad that the steady Improvements shown during the previous seasons will be kept.
Hmmm. Surely you wait to see how we do until the end of the season? We could be looking at another trophyless season plus another year in Europa if we don't buck our ideas up.
I am probably just about still OleIn but a new contract at this point would be a bit silly.
the club would look exceedingly naive to offer one now, that he’ll undoubtedly sign, if we then fail to get top and our season fallls away like it did in 2019.
Very odd
the club would look exceedingly naive to offer one now, that he’ll undoubtedly sign, if we then fail to get top and our season fallls away like it did in 2019.
Very odd
Giving him a new contract before the season ends is madness. Wait and see how it plays out for the love of God.
Think about it. If things go bad we could be knocked out of the EL and FA cup next week.
If Ole deserves it come the end of the season give him the contract but doing it now has the potential to back us into a corner.
Think about it. If things go bad we could be knocked out of the EL and FA cup next week.
If Ole deserves it come the end of the season give him the contract but doing it now has the potential to back us into a corner.
Phew.. I was worried Real or Barca were going to step in and offer him something really good to turn his head.
In seriousness, I hope the club knows what its doing. I can't really see what he's done to look like we've progressed other than adding Bruno and some of our younger talent getting older and more mature (and therefore getting better naturally).. but I would pause any new deal until the end of the season. We look like we're tittering on just about holding on and not completely collapsing.
I personally think he's not going to get us looking better without a lot of more money being spent, and him being our Frank Rijkaard at mid 2000s Barcelona.
In seriousness, I hope the club knows what its doing. I can't really see what he's done to look like we've progressed other than adding Bruno and some of our younger talent getting older and more mature (and therefore getting better naturally).. but I would pause any new deal until the end of the season. We look like we're tittering on just about holding on and not completely collapsing.
I personally think he's not going to get us looking better without a lot of more money being spent, and him being our Frank Rijkaard at mid 2000s Barcelona.
So the club has learnt nothing then. No need to give a manager a new contract mid season. Wait until it is finished.
We could end it brilliantly we could implode.
If we implode and have given him a new contract then what?
I'm praying this contract is lined up but won't be signed until the end of the season when we see where we end up
We could end it brilliantly we could implode.
If we implode and have given him a new contract then what?
I'm praying this contract is lined up but won't be signed until the end of the season when we see where we end up
Jesus, let's hope this is not true.
We are in bad form since mid Jan tbf mate. Dropped a lot of points.
Fully deserves a new contract, think he’s done a really good job so far.
Surely we should wait until the end of the season.
Surely give it to him when the season is done.
What if our form falls off a cliff. It's happened before. We could look real stupid.
He'll of things went bad we could be out of the EL and FA cup next week.
Smart thing to do is wait till the last game is played.
Doing it before that is asking for trouble
Really good on what metric? I'd say Klopp has done a really good to phenomenal job at Liverpool for example. He's won them their first title in decades along with a CL. Just wondering when people claim Ole is doing a really good job what standards we're talking about here.
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