Scholsey2004
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Love McFred, hate this thread.
I'd be curious to know how many points City has dropped against clubs they've dominated. I bet it's more than 12 points.Excellent post.
And I would say your assessment is right, which in short is we win most of the games we dominate, but I think the sense of us struggling from teams that deploy a low block tactics stem from the fact that most of the points we dropped this season came from teams that sat back and we dominated them in possession.
So perhaps it's just that we dropped around 12 points to teams we dominated is an issue that might explain why we are behind city, but I believe that's not enough justification of why we are behind city, there are further issues to be resolved and areas to be improved.
On the topic, I 100% disagree that most of the top 10 teams starting 2 CMs are better than Mcfred, only the ones in City and Liverpool are better, the Liecester duo are only slightly better. The rest, Mcfred are the better pair ( Partey and Kante as individuals are better)
I'd be curious to know how many points City has dropped against clubs they've dominated. I bet it's more than 12 points.
This season really is a weird one, I got a feeling we've been wank all season and yet we are where we are. I'm praying to God MMM's season is just a blip and they go back to last season's form next year onwards.For a midfield duo supposed to be worst of the top 10, Cavani , Greenwood and Martial have only 10 PL goals between them , Rashford out of form, Lindelof isn’t good enough , AWB has been a waste , Maguire is too slow and been coached by a selfish PE teacher you’d have to wonder how we are 2nd , in the quarters of the EL and the FA cup and not lying 10th with Arsenal
Pogba who gets injured a lot? That Pogba?Nothing to do with Pogba or Bruno of course.
Yeah but we went out of the CL so none of the rest matters and something about style of play again as well.For a midfield duo supposed to be worst of the top 10, Cavani , Greenwood and Martial have only 10 PL goals between them , Rashford out of form, Lindelof isn’t good enough , AWB has been a waste , Maguire is too slow and been coached by a selfish PE teacher you’d have to wonder how we are 2nd , in the quarters of the EL and the FA cup and not lying 10th with Arsenal
Yea the one that came on & changed the game against PSG away & Newcastle away aswell as this week at Milan. The one who scored a worldly away to West Ham as well as saving blushes against Burnley & whose recent absence from the team has coincided with our fall from 1st.Pogba who gets injured a lot? That Pogba?
I suspect Ole primarily starts McTominay to defend set-piecesMcTominay is the worst starting midfielder in the top 10 teams *
Tall midfielders without sufficient mobility especially lateral movements is the reason we're reliant on Fred. Ole rested him for Sheffield and he was suspended against Red-bull and we lost both games now Ole is overcautious.McTominay is the worst starting midfielder in the top 10 teams *
No one is saying he's crap ffs, how many league games has he started though (I appreciate i could do that research myself!)? Your comment is that we owe our league position to Pogba (and Bruno), whereas Pogba has missed a lot of football so I suspect that was the point of the post you replied to.Yea the one that came on & changed the game against PSG away & Newcastle away aswell as this week at Milan. The one who scored a worldly away to West Ham as well as saving blushes against Burnley & whose recent absence from the team has coincided with our fall from 1st.
But yes, he’s crap & never available.
Firstly, his post was in response to mine which suggested Pogba & Bruno have more influence which I’m not even going to begin to debate.No one is saying he's crap ffs, how many league games has he started though (I appreciate i could do that research myself!)? Your comment is that we owe our league position to Pogba (and Bruno), whereas Pogba has missed a lot of football so I suspect that was the point of the post you replied to.
Your post was initially in response to mine about us being 2nd which was early on in the thread.Firstly, his post was in response to mine which suggested Pogba & Bruno have more influence which I’m not even going to begin to debate.
Secondly, you’ve obviously not bothered reading this forum if you believe what I emboldened - cretins on here have tried to say both Fred & McTom are better players at points.
As for my comment, remove Bruno. I wholeheartedly believe Pogba in his limited performances this season has done more to win this club games than either of the McFred tandem; that isn’t to say that McFred are crap but it is to say the gap in ability is stark.
As for how many games he’s started; I’ve already highlighted the multiple games Pogba has had to come on & save us this season. Availability is a great ability so I’d much prefer Pogba be more durable but in a rather stop-start season where his own fanbase sh*t on him at most turns he’s again proving his ability trumps most anyone in the squad.
There’s always a caveat with the lad & it’s nonsense.
Haha I was going to post something similar but you saved me the trouble. I really wonder what the explanation Is for us to be 2nd now and 3 last year inspite all these issues and compounded by the PE teacher. I am sure someone would say Pogba but he has missed most of last season and a good part of this season. Are Bruno, Rash and Shaw by themselves pulling relegation fodder upto the Top 4?De Gea is finished and Henderson is not up to replacing him
AWB is awful going forward and in possession generally. Shaw is fat and unfit.
Leicester are laughing all the way to the back after robbing us of £80m for bang-average Maguire. Lindelof is weak, slow and easily bullied.
McFred is the worst CM partnership in the top half. Bruno only scores penalties and doesn’t turn up against the top 6. Pogba is a liability and wants out.
Rashford and Martial are inconsistent and lazy. Dan James is a Championship player. Greenwood has only 1 PL goal this season and is looking more like the next Macheda than the next RvP.
Ole is PE teacher. Failed Cardiff manager who has no tactical nous.
Oh to have world-class, flawless players in every position like the mighty Chelsea, Leicester, Spurs, Arsenal and Liverpool. All coached by tactical geniuses.
Shame about their league positions but that’s just one of those minor details only old-fashioned football fans about.
Rice-Soucek or Xhaka-Partey
How about now?How about now
Bitter hahaHow about now?
To be fair, they have won more games than us.How have Leicester got a better midfield than us but we're above them in the league?
Is this a serious question? Genuinely asking.How have Leicester got a better midfield than us but we're above them in the league?
He’s awful. He’s not even good enough for Everton.You have been crying out for a decent CM since Carrick. I even think Doucoure would have been a decent stop gap for you guys, he can’t finish attacks but he is a decent passer of the ball and able to dictate games.
But apparently Leicester play with a different tactical system so that completely negates the differences between Ndidi and Tielemans and McFred.Ndidi and Tielemans are in a different league to McTominay and Fred as a partnership.
Ndidi and Tielemans, Rice and Soucek, you don't have to look very high up the table for a better midfield pair.Ndidi and Tielemans are in a different league to McTominay and Fred as a partnership.