Kag
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Or, both were used rather crassly to deflect from the true issues at hand: his attitude and form, both of which were poor for a long time.Family issues and online abuse from "Manchester United fans" killed his confidence.
Or, both were used rather crassly to deflect from the true issues at hand: his attitude and form, both of which were poor for a long time.Family issues and online abuse from "Manchester United fans" killed his confidence.
There might have been a role for this Lingard. But we had no reason to believe that we’d see this one, primarily because of the two years that preceded it. Sometimes players need a clean break and there is no better evidence of this than Lingard at West Ham.I agree with this and I'm not saying he should have been a starter here but there was a role for him in this team. Players like Lingard are who you keep on the bench at a top 2 club. He could come on to help protect a lead by keeping defenders pinned back, could replace Bruno in cup games and could be a good tactical option for counter-attacking gameplans.
At this point we've simply strengthened a potential top 4 rival for free!
Neither would I but I could see us going as high as what I've said there.Wouldn't pay more than 50all in for him.
Lingard and 30/35 max
But Lingard is worth at least 20m and that would make it 80m for Rice.Where did I say it would be like for like? I'd involve him in a swap for Rice.
Also 100 million value for Rice is the stupidest thing I've ever heard in Covid times especially.
It'd be like 60 + Lingard and even that is overpaying
He was decent under Van Gaal. He hardly set the world on fire.It's not as if he came from a small club. He grew up at United and was good under LVG and to an extent under Jose too. It's not as if he couldn't handle the pressure of playing for United.
That's not true of late whether United wants to keep the player or not if United's Valuation of player is not met they aren't moving we should be getting atleast 10-15 m minimum and that would most probably be Lingard's price tag in summer.This doesn't increase his value though.... he's a not wanted United player, United never take advantage of that. £5-8m.
I was thinking this. I haven’t seen him kick a ball for West Ham but the amount of goals he’s getting in fairness, he’s on fireHe's in better form than any of our attackers
Goal and assist.Goal aside, he’s been pretty poor vs Arsenal.
Can definitely see us doing that. We should take any bids for him, as he's definitely more suited to a smaller PL club. I see us rejecting bids thoughWho knew that loaning out players rather than letting them rot not even making the subs bench could increase their value? Can't believe it took us so long to realise that. Unfortunately I can already see us rejecting £25m bid from West Ham in the summer and offering him a new ridiculous contract.
And you just keep throwing players and managers under the bus. Without even considering impact supporters can have.Oh, look at that. People flocking to Lingard's defence as if it wasn't his fault he was such a poor footballer for us for so long. It's everyone fault but himself. How come he seemed to be the only one so adversely affected by these so called toxic Manchester United fans calling him out for being shite? Rashford gets just as much as stick as Lingard does and he put in decent performances and had a great output in terms of goals and assists. Meanwhile, Lingard went an entire year without a goal or assist. It's just revisionist bollocks.
People need support in difficult times.Or ruined by his terrible performance for us over a long time, may be.
I have no words, good grief.Have to say a front 3 of - Lingard-cavani-James would be a nightmare for defenders in terms of pressing from the front.
Can't see VDB staying.If he wants to go then fair enough, we shouldn't stand in his way. But if he's happy to come back and compete with Van de Beek?
You mean surely 180.80mill player at this rate
He is not good enough to play for Manchester United, by any stretch of the imagination.....unless of course you are happy with the team's mediocre results for the last 7 years....Great goal. He's more than good enough to have been a squad player here. Another one inexplicably frozen out by Ole.
Inexplicably? He was off the boil for 18+ months.Great goal. He's more than good enough to have been a squad player here. Another one inexplicably frozen out by Ole.
He barely played for the final 12 months that he was here. Before that he had an absolutely terrible 6 months, and before that he was 'ok'. Not good, but not terrible like he was for the first half of 19/20.Let's not rewrite history. He was one of our worst players for the last 2 whole years. Good to see him back in form.
Due to off field issues.Inexplicably? He was off the boil for 18+ months.
He has got the talent to be a good squad player here but let's not pretend this West Ham form is representative of his recent history with us.