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The Ben Foster effectHenderson has the best job in football. £100k a week, and every week he doesn't play he gets better in the eyes of the British press.
The Ben Foster effectHenderson has the best job in football. £100k a week, and every week he doesn't play he gets better in the eyes of the British press.
That’s where the lump sum pay-off comes in. It’s all well and good him choosing to go to some mid table La Liga side, we will be footing the bill like we did with Alexis Sanchez.De Gea should take a pay cut to go back to Spain and be with his family. He would be well suited to going to a non-Barca/Madrid La Liga club where there would probably be a little less pressure so that he can enjoy the remainder of his career.
Someone like a Sevilla, Sociedad, Betis or Villareal would surely be interested.
If he refuses, tell him he will be on the bench next season. He won’t get picked for Spain, and after that, nobody is going to be offering him big money anyway.
Neither Henderson nor DDG are world class keepers at the moment. It’s on us to find the next one & train up the one that stays.I think Henderson hype will be regretted if he becomes our number 1 with no De Gea to step in when it becomes obvious that he isn’t good enough. Then the excuse will be “well of course Ole can’t compete we need a world class keeper, look at the difference it made to Liverpool”
I agree De Gea hasn’t been performing world class, but we know for a good 4-7 years he was, at 30 he should be at his best with several years still go. It could simply be about the goalkeeping coach, a lot has been made in the past about DDG needing to feel a connection with his goalkeeping coach.Neither Henderson nor DDG are world class keepers at the moment.
A lot of it depends on the club, obviously.I agree De Gea hasn’t been performing world class, but we know for a good 4-7 years he was, at 30 he should be at his best with several years still go. It could simply be about the goalkeeping coach, a lot has been made in the past about DDG needing to feel a connection with his goalkeeping coach.
My opinion, we let De Gea go, he will go on and have success at another top club, probably more success in the next 3-6 years than Henderson will have in the next 12 years.
maybe. But if I am De Gea then I would be taking a serious look at taking a wage cut to be able to go back to Spain.That’s where the lump sum pay-off comes in. It’s all well and good him choosing to go to some mid table La Liga side, we will be footing the bill like we did with Alexis Sanchez.
There’s new rumours of him leaving, in my opinion I think DDG *may* want to go back to Spain to raise bis child, more than falling down the pecking order? Hence why we’re allegedly looking to pay off his contract as a thank you for being a legend of the club? I dunno, just spitballing here, maybe it’s a tactical decision, who knows"Funny" how he lost his no1 place. If he stayed (not going in Spain to be with the kid) he would not lost his no1 spot.
Also Tom Cleverly, Ben Thornley, Kieran Richardson and basically anyone English who has played for United in the past 20 years.The Ben Foster effect
Ben Foster Mark 2.02 howlers already tonight, nothing will be said. Not at fault for the goal in fairness.
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Don't take the Caf as the full fan base. It's full of melts.I always worry for Henderson when I notice he’s playing. Never known a fan base so toxic towards one of their own He’s 24
How is the fan base toxic towards him?I always worry for Henderson when I notice he’s playing. Never known a fan base so toxic towards one of their own He’s 24
I hope you live somewhere where the time difference means your watching this in the middle of the night.Amazing how the most important quality someone needs to be United starting 11 player nowadays is an English passport. This is right behind being the manager's favourite.
I just know that when he plays he gets hounded for not being prime de gea.How is the fan base toxic towards him?
I know, I have a lot of time for Man Utd fans.Don't take the Caf as the full fan base. It's full of melts.
He doesnt have to be right, he looks incredibly shakey, worse than the average PL keeper which is weird as he was one of the better keepers last season by numerous metrics.I just know that when he plays he gets hounded for not being prime de gea.
I know, I have a lot of time for Man Utd fans.
He's made 3 "howlers" today apparently, so there's an example.How is the fan base toxic towards him?
Those were 3 very very poor exhibitions of goalkeeping, which could have easily been errors leading to a goal. Well at least two of them I'd say. But maybe we are used to that now.He's made 3 "howlers" today apparently, so there's an example.
How cute, I said something you don't like and now you want are trying to post something petty and pathetic.I hope you live somewhere where the time difference means your watching this in the middle of the night.
no. Your post was a joke. Get a grip. The lad is 24.How cute, I said something you don't like and now you want are trying to post something petty and pathetic.
This is what I don’t get and it’s why I posted my comment. It was only the other week he was getting praised for a great run of clean sheets and a performance against Milan. But then again, you will have seen more of him this season than I have, I just haven’t seen this so called average keeper. He’s not the finished article at all but some comments are incredible.He doesnt have to be right, he looks incredibly shakey, worse than the average PL keeper which is weird as he was one of the better keepers last season by numerous metrics.
"Cute?"How cute, I said something you don't like and now you want are trying to post something petty and pathetic.
I'm always surprised De Gea is 6ft 4. Similar when I hear Henderson is 6ft 2.What is it with teams and swarming our GK making him look 2 foot 1.
It's because it's now been pitted as Henderson vs De Gea. So whenever one of them does well it will be overpraised as evidence of how much better he is than the other. And then when he doesn't do well he ships heavier criticism in return. Which is ultimately unfair on both.This is what I don’t get and it’s why I posted my comment. It was only the other week he was getting praised for a great run of clean sheets and a performance against Milan. But then again, you will have seen more of him this season than I have, I just haven’t seen this so called average keeper. He’s not the finished article at all but some comments are incredible.
So what does that have to do with my post? He's not warranted a starting spot ahead of De Gea based on performances and all of a sudden he's starting? What criteria is there to make him a starter.no. Your post was a joke. Get a grip. The lad is 24.
I can see that. It’s not fair like you say, I don’t get why people like to take sides like this but I guess it boils down to a newbie coming in and looking to push an established keeper out. Just enjoy having two talented players.It's because it's now been pitted as Henderson vs De Gea. So whenever one of them does well it will be overpraised as evidence of how much better he is than the other. And then when he doesn't do well he ships heavier criticism in return. Which is ultimately unfair on both.
young players being in contention all season for the no 1 spot, and he’s been having a run.So what does that have to do with my post? He's not warranted a starting spot ahead of De Gea based on performances and all of a sudden he's starting? What criteria is there to make him a starter.
Literally no reason, you're right. I'll forgive the personal insult, as I'm sure it's difficult when someone disagrees with you, so you have to resort to insults.young players being in contention all season for the no 1 spot, and he’s been having a run.
no reason... must be because he’s English. Tool.
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To the extent it doesn't make sense.
So, so trueDon't take the Caf as the full fan base. It's full of melts.
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To the extent it doesn't make sense.