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We just need to compare Henderson to Pickford and Pope on all main stats.Henderson is clearly 3rd choice for England, and i think that’s fair.
We just need to compare Henderson to Pickford and Pope on all main stats.Henderson is clearly 3rd choice for England, and i think that’s fair.
I use Samsung Internet on my phone, do you know when this stat will be released for the platform?Thank you. We need more people stating that repeatedly for those that are not up to date and are probably still using Internet Explorer.
You'll get the update with vaccination. I already have mine installed.I use Samsung Internet on my phone, do you know when this stat will be released for the platform?
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You need to watch a tutorial on how to eat Tide pods first.I use Samsung Internet on my phone, do you know when this stat will be released for the platform?
Been at it all day, feel a bit washed out now.You need to watch a tutorial on how to eat Tide pods first.
There was a misunderstanding with Lindelof earlier in the 2nd half. Dean could've collected an easy ball only for Lindelof to decide to clear it for corner kick.Made Some gold stops today, not only that i could hear him shout “keepers” a few times when he came for the ball. Dominant trait Lacking in DDG.
This is actually backed up by the stats on chances prevented. I saw this thread on twitter but I'll also just post the text for anyone who doesn't want to click the tweet and follow the thread -I like him because he is also very proactive. He is going to make mistakes because this is his first season at a big club and the pressure is on him but he made three brilliant saves yesterday. I do not know but I feel more confident with him in goal than David now.
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You also have to keep in mind how much he helps on crosses. Maguire is one of the best headers of the ball in the league but even he only wins 70% of his aerial duels. So if he loses 3/10 and those happen to be around the 6 yard box, if those 3 are on target, from that close there's a very good chance of scoring. This is when everyone blames Maguire for a goal but with Henderson in goal the chance doesn't even happen, because unlike De Gea, he will come and claim or punch that ball away...The willingness to come off his line is huge. I hadn't really clocked it until yesterday but De Gea being unusually reticent (almost to the point that he never comes out of his box to meet the ball at all) has been having a huge, invisible effect on our defence. It effectively doubles the amount of space in behind our defensive line for strikers to run into. It's probably the reason why for a while our CBs have seemed slower playing for us than they did at their previous clubs or do at their next club, because the strikers have a much longer distance to make their pace advantage count. Maguire may be the perfect example of this.
The more you think about it, the more willingness to come out of the box and intervene and good judgement to get it right, are probably the most important qualities the keeper can have.
Let’s be honest, he is never going to be better than Dave at shot stopping. I mean, in regards to shot stopping ability, I am not taking anyone in history over Dave.I think that thread sums it up pretty well.
Henderson is allowing or defence to be more confident in pressing high and getting tight, knowing that if a ball comes over the top Henderson will be there ready for it.
On set pieces he's also noticably more proactive, I've noticed our defensive line is being held a LOT higher now on free kicks than before. This all can't be a coincidence.
Whether he's a better shot stopper than de Gea right now is probably doubtful, but he's doing a great job in preventing other avenue of attacks that DDG has struggled in recently.
There is hyperbole and overrating, then there are these kind of posts.I mean, in regards to shot stopping ability, I am not taking anyone in history over Dave.
You could be right that he never will be as good, but he still can be wary good at it!Let’s be honest, he is never going to be better than Dave at shot stopping. I mean, in regards to shot stopping ability, I am not taking anyone in history over Dave.
As long as he is commanding in other aspects of the game, we should be alright. I hope we can give Dave a good farewell, after all that he has given us over the years, if we are phasing him out.
How long did it take you to upload those pictures?This is actually backed up by the stats on chances prevented. I saw this thread on twitter but I'll also just post the text for anyone who doesn't want to click the tweet and follow the thread -
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THREAD: #Henderson’s shot prevention has been class in his first 8 #PremierLeague games & its played a big part in #ManchesterUnited’s success! He is preventing 3.07 chances occurring per game corresponding to ~0.44 ExG per game! That’s double #DeGea’s ExG prevented per game!
Here I will compare #Henderson’s cross claiming & sweeping (the two branches of shot prevention) so far this year to #DeGea’s & discuss how this has affected #ManchesterUnited’s defence. I will use my shot prevention model as sadly mainstream models miss many important actions!
Sweeping: #Henderson’s sweeping has been highlighted after his tidy display vs #THFC & it wasn’t a one off! So far this year for #ManchesterUnited he has prevented 11 opposition chances occurring by sweeping which corresponds to preventing 0.15 ExG/90 (#PL avg is 0.10 ExG/90)
#DeGea’s sweeping has been criticised but actually he’s been far more active than last year but indeed he’s still sweeping at a below avg rate! #DeGea has prevented 14 opposition chances occurring by sweeping which corresponds to preventing 0.07 ExG/90 (#PL avg is 0.10 ExG/90)
#Henderson’s sweeping vs #DeGea’s 1. #Henderson sweeps more often & further from goal & this has so far prevented an additional 0.08 ExG per game (ie saves #MUFC 1 additional goal every 12 games) 2. #DeGea retains possession more often as he seldom chooses to clears the ball
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Claiming: Many have noted how active #Henderson is when it comes to claiming & so far this year for #ManchesterUnited he has prevented 12 opposition chances occurring by claiming crosses which corresponds to preventing 0.29 ExG/90 which is well above the #PL avg of 0.20 ExG/90!
#DeGea’s claiming has been criticised again this year which is a little unfair. #DeGea has prevented 18 opposition chances occurring by claiming crosses which corresponds to preventing 0.15 ExG/90 which is below the #PL avg of 0.20 ExG/90 but is hardly disastrous.
#Henderson’s claiming vs #DeGea’s 1. #Henderson claims more often & further from goal & this has prevented an additional 0.14 ExG per game (ie saves #MUFC 1 additional goal every 7 games) 2. #DeGea is tidier & catches more often but this is cos he comes for “easier” crosses.
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Conclusion: #Henderson’s prevention is above avg while #DeGea’s prevention is below avg #Henderson’s claiming+sweeping has prevented #MUFC conceding an extra 0.22 ExG/90 vs #DeGea #DeGea is tidier when he claims+sweeps but this doesnt outweigh the fact he is far less active
The fact #Henderson sweeps further from goal & claims crosses further from goal than #DeGea is a big plus for #ManchesterUnited’s defence as it means they can play higher & concentrate on defending a smaller area safe in the knowledge that #Henderson will come out if needed!
In the replies, he offers a comparison to Allison, Ederson, Nick Pope and Emi Martinez -
#Alisson & #Ederson usually have around 0.18 ExG prevented per game from throughballs & the best cross claimers ie #Pope & #Martinez usually have around 0.36 ExG prevented per game from crosses so #Henderson’s level isn’t a long way off those guys, he’s like 80% of the way there.
I dunno, I just copied and pasted the image address from twitter and the pictures appeared. Why?How long did it take you to upload those pictures?
How long did it take you to upload those pictures?
Where did you read that news about Sam Johnstone? It would be nice to have him back as a 2nd keeper if DDG is leaving.He is learning quickly and it seems he is very confident in his abilities. I think we are going to let DeGea leave and the news is we may get Sam Johnstone back. That boy is very good and to me he is going to be even better than Dean. He is taller than Dean too.
Johnstone is 28 and an established player?He is learning quickly and it seems he is very confident in his abilities. I think we are going to let DeGea leave and the news is we may get Sam Johnstone back. That boy is very good and to me he is going to be even better than Dean. He is taller than Dean too.
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Absolutely loved that. One of the most exciting things for me, when it comes to Henderson is his potential. He already holds a fairly decent track record behind him, playing in the lower leagues and working his way up and with his confidence he just always seems to rise to the task at hand. Tremendous mentality and I for one can only see him getting better the more experience he gathers at this level.Elite mentality. Age 22 when he was knocking on the door was his Sheffield season, he's now our Number 1.
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I don't see why he'd come back. He is a fantastic shot stopper but I'm not sure he'd get a fair run at the no.1 jersey with Henderson here and at his age I'd have thought he'd want to be playing every game and pushing to try to get in the England squad over Pickford. In fact if I were him I'd actually want to go to Everton and try to dislodge Pickford from the side maybe. Depends how much he backs his ability I suppose.Where did you read that news about Sam Johnstone? It would be nice to have him back as a 2nd keeper if DDG is leaving.
Is he out of contract in the summer?
It was on gimme sport and team talk. That United wants to bring back Sam Johnstone if DeGea leaves in the summer, which most predict he will. It may just all be bs of course.Where did you read that news about Sam Johnstone? It would be nice to have him back as a 2nd keeper if DDG is leaving.
Is he out of contract in the summer?
I know... what was he thinking with that cap!?Decision making tonight was seriously bad.
+1Awful performance.