SirAnderson
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Cups are only an ego boost, they mean nothing.It is very strange to rest your main players in a QF of a cup that we want to win.
Especially, we don't have any game for a couple of weeks after. It is like we are resting the players for international games.
Is this a self assessment?He is a disgrace and a complete loser
Yes, but did we have a game 3 days before, and 3 days before that, and 3 days before? Resting your key players after heavy game is fine, as long as your fringe players step up, and a bit of luck that your opponent played like Everton's.It is very strange to rest your main players in a QF of a cup that we want to win.
Especially, we don't have any game for a couple of weeks after. It is like we are resting the players for international games.
FTFYHis management is criminal. Absolutely awful.
Starting fringe players who were not match-fit didn't help the logic of what you just said. Might as well start the key players and sub them off later.Yes, but did we have a game 3 days before, and 3 days before that, and 3 days before? Resting your key players after heavy game is fine, as long as your fringe players step up, and a bit of luck that your opponent played like Everton's.
Only logical conclusions: he didn't want to win that badly and he was resting them for national teamsIt is very strange to rest your main players in a QF of a cup that we want to win.
Especially, we don't have any game for a couple of weeks after. It is like we are resting the players for international games.
Exactly. Shaw, Pogba and Bruno needed to play together at some point (preferably start, get us goals and then sub) if we wanted to win.Starting fringe players who were not match-fit didn't help the logic of what you just said. Might as well start the key players and sub them off later.
When you say "we are" , just remember, that "we" stands for players + supporting staff. at what point do we need to make changes everywhere.We are a team full of losers simple. Too many players that just do not know how to win .
Does our squad have any winners? Pogba yes and who?Cant win in the cups because he prioritises the wrong things and rotates too heavily.
Game was already over the second he picked VdB and Matic to start today. Awful team selection and totally needless. Chelsea last season all over again.
If you want to give Shaw and Bruno a rest you can do it without simultaneously letting the 3 biggest stinkers, those two and Martial (stinking up the place for differing reasons), all back into the team at once.
As a manager Ole is not a winner. And that's just as well because the whole reason he's here is to help soften the blow of the end of ambition to win titles.
Starting lineup was a losing one for sure but I disagree with DvB being the main problem. Maguire, Fred, and Telles (who usually are ok players) were horrible today. Probably out of form all three of them. And stating Pogba as a winger, instead of giving a chance to Amad Diallo was a criminal decision. Pogba should have played his usual, McT should have started instead of Matic, Fred should have been rested and Amad should have started. Bruno and Luke had to be brought in at half timeCant win in the cups because he prioritises the wrong things and rotates too heavily.
Game was already over the second he picked VdB and Matic to start today. Awful team selection and totally needless. Chelsea last season all over again.
If you want to give Shaw and Bruno a rest you can do it without simultaneously letting the 3 biggest stinkers, those two and Martial (stinking up the place for differing reasons), all back into the team at once.
As a manager Ole is not a winner. And that's just as well because the whole reason he's here is to help soften the blow of the end of ambition to win titles.
How do you know Fred was not match fit? Martial is always an unknown anyway, you think he is fit, he is not. You think he is a risk, he gives you a 8. If you never play Telles or VDB, how can you know whether he is good or not. It was a decent rotation with only 2-3 key players being rested on purpose. You can't play the same 11 every game 60 games a season.Starting fringe players who were not match-fit didn't help the logic of what you just said. Might as well start the key players and sub them off later.
So not starting an 18yo who has played very little first team football and has only been in the country and club for a couple of months is 'criminal'. BTW he gave the ball away a fair few times in the 5 minutes he was on so I'm quite glad he didnt start him.Exactly. Shaw, Pogba and Bruno needed to play together at some point (preferably start, get us goals and then sub) if we wanted to win.
Also, there was absolutely no reason to not start Amad Diallo, when so many of our forwards are injured or out of form. Not starting him, that was a decision that was simply criminal.
And if anybody had played too many games and needed resting - how was that not Maguire? He was shit today
Grow up, that's an embarrassment.He is a disgrace and a complete loser
What does that make you buddy?He is a disgrace and a complete loser
Since when is starting 18 year olds ind a cup (!!!) game not a good idea? Especially when you don't have much of the choice because Rashford is injured, Cavani is out of form, Martial is depressed or whatever feck is wrong with him, and basically you are left with Greenwood who had to play on the wing while he wouldSo not starting an 18yo who has played very little first team football and has only been in the country and club for a couple of months is 'criminal'. BTW he gave the ball away a fair few times in the 5 minutes he was on so I'm quite glad he didnt start him.
In terms of shit performances the defense and the goalkeeper were the best of a bad bunch today, the midfield three were dreadful, matic and fred gave the ball away relentlessly and were getting passed around and run past all game, considering the pressure they were under the defence did pretty well to keep leicesters chances down. And van de beek was non existent.
Ole Cleary priortised the EL and the bonus of not just making sure we have as back door to the CL (which we shouldn't need) but also getting top seed status for the CL group stage if we go on to win it.
He obviously felt that bruno/shaw/mctom were not fresh to enough to start and complete the game and possibly thought it better to have them as bench options to come on later in the game against a tiring leicester, it almost worked aswell we were really pegging them back and putting them under the kosh before we conceded the 3rd goal. If we started them all do you really think we would of blown leicester away? And got ourselves a couple of goal lead and been able to take them all off and relax? I wouldn't of thought so.
True, we’ve had terrible luck. Imagine we had Chelsea’s CL run this year.. Sevilla, Krasnodar, Stade Rennais, Atletico and Porto.I am not saying it as an excuse - but when you look at the opponents we have had in the cup tournaments - of course that is part of the answer. When you meet the best teams all he time, sooner or later you will lose.
Look at the draws we have had below - that shouldn't even be possible. The only time we generally were Lucky With the Draw - Europa League last season. Apart from that it's been hellish all around.
C.L 20/21 : Leipzig and PSG
E.L 20/21 : Milan, Sociedad, Granada and Roma
FA 20/21: Liverpool, West Ham, Leicester
LC 20/21: Brighton, Everton, Man City
FA 19/20: Wolves, Norwich, Chelsea
LC 19/20: Chelsea, Man City
FA 18/19: Arsenal, Chelsea, Wolves
C.L 18/19: PSG, Barcelona
That’s why I haven’t paid too much attention to this semis BS.I am not saying it as an excuse - but when you look at the opponents we have had in the cup tournaments - of course that is part of the answer. When you meet the best teams all he time, sooner or later you will lose.
Look at the draws we have had below - that shouldn't even be possible. The only time we generally were Lucky With the Draw - Europa League last season. Apart from that it's been hellish all around.
C.L 20/21 : Leipzig and PSG
E.L 20/21 : Milan, Sociedad, Granada and Roma
FA 20/21: Liverpool, West Ham, Leicester
LC 20/21: Brighton, Everton, Man City
FA 19/20: Wolves, Norwich, Chelsea
LC 19/20: Chelsea, Man City
FA 18/19: Arsenal, Chelsea, Wolves
C.L 18/19: PSG, Barcelona