Don't feed it
FC Bayern München 2020/21
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Just watched that post PSG interview of Flick on Sky in full for the first time, and now I don't think it's certain Flick wants to leave.Stop posting this Sky tweet as if it's anything official. Why would Lothar fecking Matthäus of all people be in a position to break those news?
I think he values the club job at Bayern highly, and he likes it alot. I also think that in terms of, let's say, professional level, he knows it's the best he can get, and the NT isn't comparable.
It sure seems like there are definitively issues to be sorted out between him and the board and especially Brazzo. He's a weird guy, hard to know what's the situation from watching him speak and act; which players he wanted or did not want, how happy he is with the squad building, or if he is unhappy whether it's to the point of blaming Brazzo for failing him, and failing at the DoF job.
Maybe the relationship is beyond repair (in which case I think it's more likely Flick will leave than that the club will fire Brazzo for him, whatever the result of online polls at BILD, kicker or Focus.de).
But maybe there can be made adjustments, and he will continue. That would be so, so lovely.
Flick should stay: the season goals will be reached by winning the Bundesliga title and you can't really complain being knocked out from the CL by PSG who has a multimillionaire squad.
But keeping this philosophy I feel Bayern can get another european cup in a few seasons. Their transfer market activity is quite solid overall.
But keeping this philosophy I feel Bayern can get another european cup in a few seasons. Their transfer market activity is quite solid overall.
This is probably one of the main reasons why Guardiola left too.
He wanted Neymar, De Bruyne and Sterling. Instead he got Götze, Coman and Costa.
I said this before; i have huge respect for Bayern regarding lots of things and rate them among top 5 giant clubs in the world (United, Real, Barca, Juve, Bayern) but any coach who goes there must lose all self respect to accept that job. Rummenige, Kaiser Franz, Hasan, Hoenes...all wiping floor with managers in public. "Shut up and do what we tell you." And players are above manager which is also something which is odd to me.
The weirdest moment was when club took side of Guardiola against Kovac (their own manager at the time). Seeing Kovac saying sorry on press conference was sad thing to see. And Kovac is not a person who is labelled as a soft or yes man.
But hey, you have results on your side so it is working i guess.
There were good reasons for not getting Neymar. Bayern have a torrid history of sighing young South American players as they aren't able to handle the immense pressure and added change in weather/culture. It's not as if Gotze was a poor player, Gotze was arguably better at the time of signing given his role with Dortmund. He had a good first season but then injuries got to him, don't think Bayern could've predicted that. This doesn't even consider the insane price Barca had to pay for Neymar as well.
De Bruyne was get too expensive, if Pep wants to have an unlimited transfer kitty otherwise he'll throw his toys out of the pram then City is the best place for him.
Sterling, I can't remember him every being seriously linked to Bayern to be honest. Coman would've been a great player himself had he not had so many injuries, that was a steal by Bayern.
Thiago was Peps signing and had he not come Kroos might have considered to be more important and given a better deal.
To be fair, Hoeneß went to jail anyway so we might as well also have bought Neymar in the process.
In reality, of course he never would have come.
In reality, of course he never would have come.
If that's the impression you've been getting, I don't really share it. About Flick, for example, board members only speak in glowing terms publicly. Like they did with Guardiola.
That there's hassle behind the scenes about a lot of different decisions, personell and transfers, is true.
Do you really see Bayern paying what Barcelona paid for Neymar? To date no one has a specific amount Barcelona paid for Neymar, speculations are that its over 100M for fees, agent and daddy fees back in 2013
Sterling? How many English players will leave their league. I dont see Bayern paying for him
The main point s that Bayern does not have unlimited funds to play with like City PSG and many clubs and pushing for certain players will not work regardless of who you are.
E.g Bayern cannot really get a player like Mbappe with his cost even if the manager whines about it
What do Bayern fans think of Hernandez? long term CB?
Not sure about his heading but the rest is very promising. Good pace (you could see him in 1v1 vs Mbappe) and solid tackles. Needs a physical strong partner. If fit, 1st 11 CB.
Yes long term LCB if he can stay fit with Upa and Sule being the RCB
He better be, for the money spent. If he can achieve the level he showed in the return leg vs PSG somewhat consistently, he'd be very much worth it.
How much did you pay?
80M Euros
Damn. Quite rare from you guys to spend that amount of cash on one player, no? He looks top quality though!
Not just the defending. His distribution from the back was superb. Didn't know he had that in his locker.
@kouroux Look at people disrespecting Lucas.
I really shake my tête
Hernandez has ridiculous potentialBoth the Hernandez brothers are ridiculous physical specimens
Only that Theo is worse player by far
It helped a lot that he finally played as CB and not LB. I am obviously not a coach but i never understood why Flick absolutely insisted of playing him as LB with Alaba at LCB.
The fact that he can play there at a genuinely good level probably clouds managers minds. Simeone should have moved him back to CB and I think that France should have him at CB with Mendy on the left.
PS: Thinking about Choupo-Moting, Carsten Jancker was mainly a backup back in the day, right?
Great thought process
thinking of Choupo who comes to mind...Jacker!But nah, he was mainly a starter only in his last season he barely played.
I was thinking about striker depth at Bayern. I wasn't likening Jancker and Choupo.Great thought process
But nah, he was mainly a starter only in his last season he barely played.
Gnabry being out as well and therefore having to play Choupo certain didn’t help Bayern.I was thinking about striker depth at Bayern. I wasn't likening Jancker and Choupo.
Lewandowski, Gnabry and Goretzka are where the goals come from since Sane and Coman are more the creators than scorers. And Müller is just not synced with Choupo either.
Insane how wasteful Sane has been this whole season.
Also Musiala is unreal, for sure will get a much lower number next season.
Also Musiala is unreal, for sure will get a much lower number next season.
United should get Wout Weghorst. God I would love that.
Flick confirms he will be leaving end of the season
Goddammit
Who do you think will replace him?
Pretty shit season all in all. Our football was uninspired for long stretches, our transfers werent good, no CL success, an embarrassing Cup exit, horrendous defending all season long, Flick leaving after this farcical spat with the Board... Feels like a wasted year somehow. At least there's Musiala to be hyped for.
Yes, i know, first world problems.
Yes, i know, first world problems.
might be Nagelsmann
I guess he’s the best bet, but then Bayern would be his third club in two and a half years
He sounds disloyal when you put it that way but tbf to him, 3 seasons at a midtable side like Hoffenheim and 2 at a CL level side like Leipzig seems a normal, good trajectory to the top team in the country, and maybe the world. 5 years of good work at 2 clubs is a fairer judgment for a top young manager.
Apart from Nagelsmann, no name really springs to mind. Seems shitty timing to be looking for a new head coach.
But i'm not yet convinced that this the end of the drama, there may yet be more infighting at the club. The only certain outcome is that not both Brazzo and Flick will be at the club next season, i guess.
Take back Pep
Ole
I stated couple of pages back that Nagelsmann hasn't got enough experience to deal with the circus at Bayern. It's far to early for him, will be eaten alive.
Yeah, you’re right. It just sounded weird in my head for some reason.