Absolutely nothing yet, people think we're being booted out of the league tomorrow and we're folding as a club for some reason? Fecking daft
European Super League
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Well. If I was as rich as Pep and Klopp are, absolutely.
This isn't simply going to be a tournament. The guaranteed slot format means that motivation in domestic leagues goes out the window.
The richest clubs in the world aren’t happy with the money they’re currently getting.
Imagine the bidding war for the rights to the top clubs in Europe playing week in, week out.
Now, how do you think the winning broadcaster will pay for these rights?
I've been wondering this. I've got a fair few questions I've not been able to really get any answer or at least discussion on.
This doesn't mean the CL and Europa stop, does it? The 'elite' wouldn't be in it and it may not be 'as' prestigious but could this not mean that different teams now make up those competitions?
Would a Southampton fan really hate the idea of a European night against Roma? Surely they would get increased TV and match day revenue. Maybe not to the extent the current CL clubs do but its still a European night isn't it?
There are Europa League teams who have never had a sniff at the CL but I'm sure it doesn't mean their fans haven't had some great trips and memories as part of that competition.
Could it potentially mean we have 3 European style competitions now and suddenly fans of a lot of clubs get the chance to start making European history of their own?
Agree. I would say that 90% of fans from these clubs don't want this and actually want Premier League and UEFA to do some drastic moves, even if it means from tommorow.
It was going to happen eventually but this is such a weird situation where none of the direct parties involved in it are exactly good and I feel no sympathy for any of them.
Premier League the loose cannon capitalists they are, whining they’re getting their cut reduced, UEFA the corrupt assholes they are, whining they’re getting their cut reduced. FIFA are the ultimate sketchy organisation for sure especially after the 2022 World Cup debacle. The clubs involved being greedy assholes. Sky in the UK are crying about these rich asshole billionaires despite spending years with their tongues up their asses saying how great it is to have these foreign owners make the league what it is. All of them have contributed to what we see now.
The PL will cave into letting the big 6 competing in the PL in my opinion. The PL sponsors that will jump ship if they ban them will be very noticeable. The PL and the FA need those big 6 a lot more than the big 6 need them.
Premier League the loose cannon capitalists they are, whining they’re getting their cut reduced, UEFA the corrupt assholes they are, whining they’re getting their cut reduced. FIFA are the ultimate sketchy organisation for sure especially after the 2022 World Cup debacle. The clubs involved being greedy assholes. Sky in the UK are crying about these rich asshole billionaires despite spending years with their tongues up their asses saying how great it is to have these foreign owners make the league what it is. All of them have contributed to what we see now.
The PL will cave into letting the big 6 competing in the PL in my opinion. The PL sponsors that will jump ship if they ban them will be very noticeable. The PL and the FA need those big 6 a lot more than the big 6 need them.
If the Champions League/European Cup continues, they wouldn't be able to.
Look bud, don’t paint with a broad brush. I’m an American and I don’t like it either.
Competition needs underdogs hence why Arsenal and Spurs also were invited
Sadly, true.
However my point is people will care most about what they pay and even if every game is ppv, people will be happy if they are spending less overall.
Maybe the PL should have had a stricter fit-and-proper test.
Yeah, PSG and Bayern on their moral high ground.
You’ll care when you start realising how vapid, meaningless and cynical this new league is.
When facing Real or Barca means absolutely feck all to either set of fans it might make a dent.
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Are we talking around 23 games all season if we are banned from all domestic stuff? Or If not banned from domestic 70+ games? VDB might get 15 minutes here.
I'm just going to go to bed and hopefully wake up from this nightmare.
I don't think alienating the rest of the smaller clubs is a good thing and the greed is ridiculous but....
Every year when it comes to champions league I'd hear people saying how good it would be if x team actually played x team whilst the teams are in their prime form but don't end up playing each other at all.
It would be refreshing to see the big guns actually battle it out each season to see who truly was the best out of a strong bunch but then when it comes to the actual winning of the cup it might be not that special because cup upsets by smaller teams are the best experience imo.
Bit like Leicester winning the prem.
I'd just prefer to keep the current format though. Arsenal will be the meme club of the decade. Play rubbish in prem but get have an automatic place in the big league.
Every year when it comes to champions league I'd hear people saying how good it would be if x team actually played x team whilst the teams are in their prime form but don't end up playing each other at all.
It would be refreshing to see the big guns actually battle it out each season to see who truly was the best out of a strong bunch but then when it comes to the actual winning of the cup it might be not that special because cup upsets by smaller teams are the best experience imo.
Bit like Leicester winning the prem.
I'd just prefer to keep the current format though. Arsenal will be the meme club of the decade. Play rubbish in prem but get have an automatic place in the big league.
Does it? Why? The format supports the domestic calendar, just like the current Champions League does. Do teams in the Champions League just not have the motivation to win their domestic league?
Kai Havertz has been quoted as calling this idea a disgrace. We better hear from the two greatest players of our time; Messi and Ronaldo and their condemnation of this. They are the icons of world football, they need to stand up and let their voices be heard.
@crossy1686 you're so disconnected from reality, it is unreal.
The PL will be worthless. The history and tradition of the game will be gone. We'll be in a competition by default, killing the competition and removing any excitement. This will lose it's shine within a few years as it will become monotonous. You'll never see an underdog go and win it. Us and a few others will be so rich that the smaller PL teams will be left in the dust. Players like Grealish won't play for teams like Villa.
This is just the start too. Eventuality the teams will decide to leave domestic competition as the gap between ESL teams and the rest becomes so big. The other teams probably won't even want us around in the PL, which will be a important as the League Cup after this.
The PL will be worthless. The history and tradition of the game will be gone. We'll be in a competition by default, killing the competition and removing any excitement. This will lose it's shine within a few years as it will become monotonous. You'll never see an underdog go and win it. Us and a few others will be so rich that the smaller PL teams will be left in the dust. Players like Grealish won't play for teams like Villa.
This is just the start too. Eventuality the teams will decide to leave domestic competition as the gap between ESL teams and the rest becomes so big. The other teams probably won't even want us around in the PL, which will be a important as the League Cup after this.
Does this mean we can sign Sancho, Haaland, Grealish, Varane and Ndidi in the same transfer window now?
you will though. I’m certain all clubs will play in their domestic leagues. I’m not saying it’s right, but we are creatures of habit, and we will continue to watch.
Brave new world innit?
Great yes
You can't forget the format though.
Of course I love seeing the best players in the world face each other, but you'll quickly see that without something material on the line - without the vast majority of games actually mattering - it becomes a very diluted form of the sport.
Players don't give their all, star players are rested far more frequently and the actual games are much, much, much less competitve.
It's a cash grab. The 15 'Founding Fathers' are guaranteed their millions every year regardless of performance, while quite literally half the league (almost certainly made up entirely of 'founders' as they'll have a huge wage/player disparity to the 5 teams that qualify yearly) make the playoffs. It renders the extended group stage a half-hearted borefest.
It will most certainly - based on all evidence of similar formats - be a vastly inferior product.
An 18-25 game group stage that barely matters will be like watching preseason friendlies LARPing as actual competition... like the International Champions Cup we played in for a couple of summers.
Time to boycott football folks
No we won’t / goodbye Glazer United
Apparently Bayern are in but want to let the shitshow pass before joining, Dortmund weren't invited, its Leipzig (purely on footballing history like our goodselves at City) and Porto.
It’s designed by Americans to cater for the Chinese.
We don’t have to wait to know it’ll be unpalatable dogshit.
The only hope of stopping this rests with the managers and players. They are the clubs biggest assets. The owners of all these clubs care not a jot about the opinions of fans and pundits.
Managers most of all. I don't need to guess what Arteta and Ole and Klopp and probably Pep make of these plans, but will they have the balls to stand up against it and walk away? Or will they bow down to the wads of cash? Huge test of character for all of these managers. The players will probably follow the managers lead.
I think we can guarentee no player or manager has been informed of these plans before today, they'll all be reeling.
Managers most of all. I don't need to guess what Arteta and Ole and Klopp and probably Pep make of these plans, but will they have the balls to stand up against it and walk away? Or will they bow down to the wads of cash? Huge test of character for all of these managers. The players will probably follow the managers lead.
I think we can guarentee no player or manager has been informed of these plans before today, they'll all be reeling.
And when it happens every year? What becomes special then?
With FIFA opposing, will that mean this super league will have jurisdiction to change certain rules as FIFA will no longer be the governing body?
Alright, we need to stop with this bollocks.
Our players aren't motivated by the amount of prize money on offer, and that hasn't stopped us recruiting before now. And even if that was in the slightest bit true, surely winning the SL would mean we'd absolutely kill the sponsorship deals? There's huge incentive to win the biggest competition on the planet.
And it doesn't matter if you or I watch it, everyone else in the world will be.
These clubs AND 5 clubs will be invited (id imagine it would be the one best performing team in each league). So if say Leicester said yes then West Ham would play in the CL. The race for top 4 would mean nothing.
Like if you’re 5th with 6 games to go and you can’t win the league then there’s not really much to play for. You’d just rest all of your players for the SL games.