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What power do they have?Anyone think that the European governments will band together and stop this?
What power do they have?Anyone think that the European governments will band together and stop this?
What left to play for in the league when City tops the league with 20 points by christmas?As a player or manager, why wouldn't you be motivated to win the league anymore? Does that currently happen when we're in the CL? Why is there new focus all of a sudden?
This. The PL will cave in as they will eventually do a sweet deal that will satisfy both parties. Happens all the time in business.It was going to happen eventually but this is such a weird situation where none of the direct parties involved in it are exactly good and I feel no sympathy for any of them.
Premier League the loose cannon capitalists they are, whining they’re getting their cut reduced, UEFA the corrupt assholes they are, whining they’re getting their cut reduced. FIFA are the ultimate sketchy organisation for sure especially after the 2022 World Cup debacle. The clubs involved being greedy assholes. Sky in the UK are crying about these rich asshole billionaires despite spending years with their tongues up their asses saying how great it is to have these foreign owners make the league what it is. All of them have contributed to what we see now.
The PL will cave into letting the big 6 competing in the PL in my opinion. The PL sponsors that will jump ship if they ban them will be very noticeable. The PL and the FA need those big 6 a lot more than the big 6 need them.
We’d easily be able to afford it, but not with the Glazers in charge.Does this mean we can sign Sancho, Haaland, Grealish, Varane and Ndidi in the same transfer window now?
Depends who gives them the most money.Anyone think that the European governments will band together and stop this?
It will because none of the teams involved will play in the domestic competitions of their country.you think that Man Utd and Liverpool won’t want to be winning the league?
Winning the league and challenging is not about getting into Europe. That’s when the club is chasing 3rd and 4th - it’s about winning the league. There will always be prestige in doing so.
I know you are emotional, but it’s not the death of domestic football. I’m not saying I like the super league, but the reality will be different to the perception that many have this evening.
Qualification not required. Do you think we'd care as much about a game vs Liverpool in the league when we play them or another team in the ESL, where the big money is, a few days later. The PL will become utterly dog shit and the level of contempt that has and will be shown towards it will be there for all to see.Does it? Why? The format supports the domestic calendar, just like the current Champions League does. Do teams in the Champions League just not have the motivation to win their domestic league?
A lot of dooms day talk based on a rant Sky put out this morning. You don't know any of this but this is the way you've chosen to view the whole event.@crossy1686 you're so disconnected from reality, it is unreal.
The PL will be worthless. The history and tradition of the game will be gone. We'll be in a competition by default, killing the competition and removing any excitement. This will lose it's shine within a few years as it will become monotonous. You'll never see an underdog go and win it. Us and a few others will be so rich that the smaller PL teams will be left in the dust. Players like Grealish won't play for teams like Villa.
This is just the start too. Eventuality the teams will decide to leave domestic competition as the gap between ESL teams and the rest becomes so big. The other teams probably won't even want us around in the PL, which will be a important as the League Cup after this.
Yeh one club doing it is fine and Arsenal are doing it with the aim of getting into the CL. If we had the SL this season then Spurs, Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool would probably all just be resting their players.But arsenal are literally doing that now! Jose did it with us in his first season.
That is good to hear. Only said it to because it seems to cater to the Americans with the NBA format. No racism intended.Look bud, don’t paint with a broad brush. I’m an American and I don’t like it either.
Earlier today, RMC said that for the moment Al Khelaifi is not committing because he is friend with Ceferin. Marseille are the other french club and we don't really know why they haven't accepted yet.Is it true PSG only said no because there was going to be an actual FFP in place to stop them spending like a spaz?
Probably because in that season they will get more money than they will get from Uefa in 5Something people havent thought about yet...
The idea of inviting 5 new clubs to the super league every year is a stupid joke. In a fantasy world where the Super League get their wish for the clubs to continue playing in national leagues. How are you going to invite 5 teams every year to join the Super League and forsake UEFA competitions, when they won't get any permeance in the Super League?!
They'll join the Super League for one season, then get kicked out, and be fecked out of parallel UEFA competitions. Maybe even banned from them forever.
These 5 invited teams are going to end up being shit teams from out of Europe, I guarenfeckingtee it.
Piss off. The reasons have already been well explained.
I will add:First, our history is built on beating domestic teams and winning domestic leagues. We don't sing about winning Super Leagues, we sing about '20 times'.
Second, the money will not be reinvested, as we have shown previously, they will go into the Glazers' pockets and if you believe the opposite, I have a bridge to sell you.
Lastly, if you are part of a competition based on your birthright, we are going back hundreds of years in terms of structure of society. This is nothing to do with what football is meant to be and represents for the everyday man. If football was like this from the beginning, it wouldn't have become the most popular sport in the world.
Frankly, your posts sound like a sales pitch.
Un-named storm trooper who dies pretty earlyI would say more C-3PO
Been happening in the stands for a while now, games goneTime to boycott football folks
Agreed. If I have to see that "Football Created by the poor, stolen by the rich" tifo again I'm going to lose it.Can we not have a seperate thread for those of us who are calm to have an actual discussion about this? It's seemingly impossible because of the flood of emotional out cries. I'd really like to actually talk about this and weigh up the pros and cons without all the drama and childish tantrums.
They're in it for the prestige and the ability to sportswash their reputation. That provides the incentive to be involved in the biggest competition.PSG is owned by Qatar. Do you think they are in it for the money? I don't think Qatar is going to create any more problems with the WC.
I am surprised at City though.
Exactly. Anyone who watches the NBA understands this. The regular season is utter dogshit, and nobody takes it seriously because 95% of games don't matter.I’ve not seen it mentioned anywhere but the most glaring problem I see with this new league if it does go ahead is the fact that the majority of games in the league will be dead rubbers.
If you have 15 teams in the league guaranteed to remain in the league then any team below the top 3 have literally nothing to play for. If you are not close to winning the super league then all your games are meaningless as you have no rewards or punishments based on how you perform.
BROUGHT TO YOU BY OMNICORPI look forward to tuning into Amazon Prime at 2am on Thursday morning to watch the United-Liverpool derby, played at some half empty megastadium on the west coast of America.
How is football between two great teams dogshit?It’s designed by Americans to cater for the Chinese.
We don’t have to wait to know it’ll be unpalatable dogshit.
Rumor is City and Chelsea were told its happening get with the program or be left behind. If you aren't in, you aren't in and they don't want to be left behind. Why else would City sign up to a comp with rules on wages to revenue.PSG is owned by Qatar. Do you think they are in it for the money? I don't think Qatar is going to create any more problems with the WC.
I am surprised at City though.
agree.Will it?
Can people stop just saying this please? Just explain why. Not one person I've read or watched has really made an actual case for this.
All I see is emotional outburst. It's frankly embarrassing how little actual discussion is going on. So many people aren't even bothering debating it. It's really frustrating. It's like wading through a crowded room of grown adults having toddler style tantrums on the floor. Stop being such a bunch of wet wipes and talk about it properly ffs.
Gary Neville has really got a lot of you going. It's scary how easily everyone seems to be lapping up Sky and BT's outrage. I can guarantee you it isn't because they care about the fans.
I suspect I've thought it through a lot more than you so leave the atrwnots at patronising to the side. I'm not saying I'm on board with it but I've at least genuinely contemplated the reasons this could be both good and bad, I don't think for a second that you have.
Teams out of title races wont fare well in a competition of the elite. Money isnt the be all and end all, if a club has the resources and is failing, they will be under incredible pressure to win.Key points to understand is the damage this does to the CL (which will haemorrhage money and status without the best clubs and players) and domestic leagues (which become consequence-less friendlies for the SL clubs once they are out of a title race and offer little more than access to 2nd/3rd rate competitions for the smaller clubs who will increasingly be left behind).
Because winning a league title is still a big deal. The majority of your games are still league games.What incentive is there for any if these clubs to get top 4 in the league now? They automatically get super League every year nomatter where they end up in the league. Is this really difficult to understand?
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Nah. It'll only take a few years before Inter Miami get a place though.I look forward to tuning into Amazon Prime at 2am on Thursday morning to watch the United-Liverpool derby, played at some half empty megastadium on the west coast of America.
OK so if half way through the season you're out of the title race domestically, and you're also at the bottom of this super league, what exactly will half of your season be for?Will it?
Can people stop just saying this please? Just explain why. Not one person I've read or watched has really made an actual case for this.
All I see is emotional outburst. It's frankly embarrassing how little actual discussion is going on. So many people aren't even bothering debating it. It's really frustrating. It's like wading through a crowded room of grown adults having toddler style tantrums on the floor. Stop being such a bunch of wet wipes and talk about it properly ffs.
Gary Neville has really got a lot of you going. It's scary how easily everyone seems to be lapping up Sky and BT's outrage. I can guarantee you it isn't because they care about the fans.
I suspect I've thought it through a lot more than you so leave the atrwnots at patronising to the side. I'm not saying I'm on board with it but I've at least genuinely contemplated the reasons this could be both good and bad, I don't think for a second that you have.
The only way this is dead in the water is that for once, just once, all players unite.Kai Havertz has been quoted as calling this idea a disgrace. We better hear from the two greatest players of our time; Messi and Ronaldo and their condemnation of this. They are the icons of world football, they need to stand up and let their voices be heard.
All founding clubs have to sign up to a spending framework apparently. That and Bein sports are one of the main sponsors of the CL.Does anyone know/suppose why PSG have not accepted yet?