George Floyd | Chauvin guilty on all counts | Sentenced to 22.5 years

Obviously the guy never stood a chance of a fair trial, no matter what he did. He was doing his job after all, very poorly, but there was no way he would ever get anything other than a guilty verdict in court due to external pressure. His life is ruined and then some, imagine getting into prison where roughly 35% of prisoners are black. Absolutely not defending the man for what happened, please don’t take it that way, but yeah... his life took a wrong turn that day.
 
I’m not sure what file transfers have to do with this at all.
From a resident P no less.
Should police have just stood back and let her stab those people she was attacking?
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No one should be taken at just face value and the first story released shouldn’t be believed.
The story could develop and I may be shown that the officer was in the wrong,
So which one is it, are you defending the Policeman simply because you are one or waiting for the story to develop? Cause it’s rather clear from your name popping up every other post of your leanings here.

I love how resident cops of the Caf only seem to be vocal when it’s a critique of the corrupt system they partake in but it’s crickets around the forum on other subjects.

As you say, let the story develop. . .
 
Obviously the guy never stood a chance of a fair trial, no matter what he did. He was doing his job after all, very poorly, but there was no way he would ever get anything other than a guilty verdict in court due to external pressure. His life is ruined and then some, imagine getting into prison where roughly 35% of prisoners are black. Absolutely not defending the man for what happened, please don’t take it that way, but yeah... his life took a wrong turn that day.
Sounds awfully like you're feeling sorry for him, though.
 
Obviously the guy never stood a chance of a fair trial, no matter what he did. He was doing his job after all, very poorly, but there was no way he would ever get anything other than a guilty verdict in court due to external pressure. His life is ruined and then some, imagine getting into prison where roughly 35% of prisoners are black. Absolutely not defending the man for what happened, please don’t take it that way, but yeah... his life took a wrong turn that day.
The life of the man whose neck he kneeled on for over 9 minutes was ended.

Among the witnesses who testified against him were fellow acting police officers.
 
Obviously the guy never stood a chance of a fair trial, no matter what he did. He was doing his job after all, very poorly, but there was no way he would ever get anything other than a guilty verdict in court due to external pressure. His life is ruined and then some, imagine getting into prison where roughly 35% of prisoners are black. Absolutely not defending the man for what happened, please don’t take it that way, but yeah... his life took a wrong turn that day.

He had 18 complaints against him prior to this specific incident. Sounds to me like his life took a wrong turn a long time ago.
 
Obviously the guy never stood a chance of a fair trial, no matter what he did. He was doing his job after all, very poorly, but there was no way he would ever get anything other than a guilty verdict in court due to external pressure. His life is ruined and then some, imagine getting into prison where roughly 35% of prisoners are black. Absolutely not defending the man for what happened, please don’t take it that way, but yeah... his life took a wrong turn that day.
That’s exactly what you’re doing. He kneeled on a mans neck for 9 and a half minutes until he was dead because he saw the colour of his skin and presumed him to be a criminal. Thank god the incident was recorded because imagine what they’d have tried to portray Floyd doing if it wasn’t.
 
Obviously the guy never stood a chance of a fair trial, no matter what he did. He was doing his job after all, very poorly, but there was no way he would ever get anything other than a guilty verdict in court due to external pressure. His life is ruined and then some, imagine getting into prison where roughly 35% of prisoners are black. Absolutely not defending the man for what happened, please don’t take it that way, but yeah... his life took a wrong turn that day.
Well, just don't go around murdering people then.
 
Obviously the guy never stood a chance of a fair trial, no matter what he did. He was doing his job after all, very poorly, but there was no way he would ever get anything other than a guilty verdict in court due to external pressure. His life is ruined and then some, imagine getting into prison where roughly 35% of prisoners are black. Absolutely not defending the man for what happened, please don’t take it that way, but yeah... his life took a wrong turn that day.

Not trying to come at you here and I understand the empathy but it's still not a great take. I think the fair trial stuff is irrelevant in the face of irrefutable and overwhelming video evidence. IMO the outcome remains the same. He consciously created unnecessary risk and chance of death (manslaughter), he unintentionally caused death whilst showing a reckless disregard for human life (knowing he was struggling to breathe BEFORE then kneeling on his neck - 3rd degree murder) and then unintentionally causing death during an assault (second degree) - it's about as straight forward a result you will ever see.
 
Obviously the guy never stood a chance of a fair trial, no matter what he did. He was doing his job after all, very poorly, but there was no way he would ever get anything other than a guilty verdict in court due to external pressure. His life is ruined and then some, imagine getting into prison where roughly 35% of prisoners are black. Absolutely not defending the man for what happened, please don’t take it that way, but yeah... his life took a wrong turn that day.
Wow. Never thought of it like this. My heart bleeds for him, it really does :rolleyes:
 
Obviously the guy never stood a chance of a fair trial, no matter what he did. He was doing his job after all, very poorly, but there was no way he would ever get anything other than a guilty verdict in court due to external pressure. His life is ruined and then some, imagine getting into prison where roughly 35% of prisoners are black. Absolutely not defending the man for what happened, please don’t take it that way, but yeah... his life took a wrong turn that day.
Surely the video evidence is overwhelming evidence regardless of public outcry?

He’s a murderer and a disgrace and hope he never leaves prison.
 
She won't be embarrassed because in her head it still sounds good. She is disconnected from humanity. Give her a lemming farm to rule over to keep her happy.
 
I saw the livestream from WaPo yesterday where one of the commentators mentioned that the identities of the jury will probably be released at some point. That can't be right, surely?
 
Without aggravating factors

tallying up the potential sentence for each of the 3 charges

he could be looking at a maximum 75 years

In the state he’ll be imprisoned , prisoners generally serve 2/3’s of their sentence so that would be a minimum 50 years

throw on aggravating factors that minimum could be much more

his free life is over

good riddance
 
Did Chauvin ever give any testimony on why he didn't remove his knee from Floyds neck and behaved like he did?
 
Bloody hell Nancy, that's some hot garbage, even for her.
 
He used his 5th amendment rights didn't he... perhaps he will testify in the inevitable appeal because he's got nothing to loose now I guess

Surely it was a mistake from the defense for him not to testify? When you're dealing with a jury who are untrained in law, you'd want to make them feel sorry for you in the hope that they see you as a good person and make a verdict on a more emotional response. Could have swayed some heads if he came across well to the jurors? Alternatively he could have implicated himself further of course.

Goes without saying I'm glad he was guilty on all accounts but can't see how testifying would have harmed his position
 
Surely it was a mistake from the defense for him not to testify? When you're dealing with a jury who are untrained in law, you'd want to make them feel sorry for you in the hope that they see you as a good person and make a verdict on a more emotional response. Could have swayed some heads if he came across well to the jurors? Alternatively he could have implicated himself further of course.

Goes without saying I'm glad he was guilty on all accounts but can't see how testifying would have harmed his position
I dunno... a lot of his fellow officers testified against him.... perhaps he is just a horrid cnut of a man and the defence thought it was best to keep him out of it?

See if they do it different on appeal?
 
Surely it was a mistake from the defense for him not to testify? When you're dealing with a jury who are untrained in law, you'd want to make them feel sorry for you in the hope that they see you as a good person and make a verdict on a more emotional response. Could have swayed some heads if he came across well to the jurors? Alternatively he could have implicated himself further of course.

Goes without saying I'm glad he was guilty on all accounts but can't see how testifying would have harmed his position

He would have been torn apart by the prosecutors.
 
From a resident P no less.

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So which one is it, are you defending the Policeman simply because you are one or waiting for the story to develop? Cause it’s rather clear from your name popping up every other post of your leanings here.

I love how resident cops of the Caf only seem to be vocal when it’s a critique of the corrupt system they partake in but it’s crickets around the forum on other subjects.

As you say, let the story develop. . .

yeah, so that’s not true. In just the last week @Skizzo did the opposite in discussions about the Wright and Toledo shootings.
 
It’s really quite odd that everyone celebrated this isn’t it? Like, I get it, the celebrations were essentially a collective wave of relief that finally some sense and justice prevails. A little bit similar to celebrating Biden getting in. It’s not good, but everyone is relieved it’s not worse now.

What a state this world is in. Be nice to collectively celebrate something actually good one day wouldn’t it?
 
Probably thinks he can hold out for an appeal and will get a pardon in 2024 from trump?


I hate to think what his time would be like. He would have to be in solitary for 4 years for any hope of that happening. That alone would send him insane.

In short.

He's fecked.
 
Probably thinks he can hold out for an appeal and will get a pardon in 2024 from trump?

Though im sure there will be a queue of prisoners wiing to lend a helping hand (or knee) if he wants to go all Epstien



State charges, so no pardon :D