I think they’d have to change the law a bit to allow you to be tried in an different state than the one you committed your alleged crime in.
George Floyd | Chauvin guilty on all counts | Sentenced to 22.5 years
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Yeah it is a minefield. Like Dirty Harry, I hate the system but it's all we got.
Could just pay the swiss or neutral party to come up with an independent committee to decide each case.
We are already suspicious of foreigners enough now.
Besides, how credible or trustworthy can the Swiss actually be? They have more guns per person than us Americans, yet they don’t mass kill even 1% as much as us.
Real exceptional, the Swiss.
They guard the pope through induced hysterics.
Imagine sharing these beliefs...
I trust then more than average poc or white american serving as juror.
You can't expect american citizens who's embroiled on daily dealings with racism, cops, criminals, to be impartial either way.
If they're going to leave it to 12 strangers to decide might as well appoint independent outsider
This is why there’s a rather detailed jury selection process.
You believe there's a person in america who never encounter incidents involving black criminals or racial spat with a POC? Or if the jury is POC never had a bad interaction with police or at least seen how the cops murdered POC in cold blood and think yeah, they'll make a good jury.
I dont even think you can even pick 12 poster from this very thread and expect them to be partial.
Obviously not.
But the point is to find the least impartial. Not every interaction is personal, often times it’s anecdotal & through the media.
You from here?
I dont think if you're white or black you can be partial enough to service as jury in such case. Too emotional for all sides.
Nope. I'm Indonesian. Even i dont think i can be partial. If I'm elected juror I'll 99% based on available evidence in this thread will choose to indict chauvin.
You’d be struck from a jury pool with relative simplicity.
We all realize that impartiality is impossible here. I’m one of the few who has never watched the video in its entirety, but I probably would have been struck for other reasons with relative simplicity.
The problem with potentially exporting a case to any other jurisdiction is that they will also have preconceived notions, either in an adjoining county or another country.
The system ain’t perfect, but there’s no real clamor for it to be upended & reimagined.
I was reading about the other three cops today and they seemingly have good defence prospects. But I can't help but think about situations where civilians are accused of aiding and abetting, or whatever the US version is and the small probability that they get mercy in such a situation. I think that these cops need to go down for this in some way even though they were essentially 'following orders'.
@Skizzo mentioned that cops have a legal duty of care to people in their charge so surely in this instance Floyd was their responsibility and therefore they were legally required to protect him from anything including a killer cop.
@Skizzo mentioned that cops have a legal duty of care to people in their charge so surely in this instance Floyd was their responsibility and therefore they were legally required to protect him from anything including a killer cop.
Can’t see them escaping justice. They all will be convicted on something.
What makes you think it wasn't a fair trial?
He was convicted.
So that makes it unfair? I'm not following the other poster's (or your) logic.
That is the prevailing sentiment going right now in the states (and for the record its is SOOOOOOO not mine) from the right wing dings.
Think of it in terms of Trump saying "the only way I can lose is if it is rigged". Same thing with the trial. The only way Chauvin could be convicted would be if it was an unfair trial.
Oh got you.
I think @James Peril has an awful take on the situation (hence me questioning him). It seems that every unfavourable outcome for the conservative right comes down to some rabbit hole conspiracy. The 'unfair trial' seems to be the latest.
Yep. Not sure if that was @James Peril's take, but it was close to it, at least how I read it. But I will give him the benefit of the doubt if it was not.
Lickers like to lick, unfortunately.
Love that fecking guy.Actual footage of pro Chauvin member:
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Private room. Must be nice.
I don't know, Hawaii looks nice.
True, it is, but you are 5 hours away from anywhere else. Really expensive too.
Sorry.
The third degree murder guilty verdict was so random. I think the jury have ignored a lot of facts when deciding on this case. Guilty on all charges and the very short period the jury took to decide on the verdict on such a very complicated case confirms this.
What facts are those?
His use of drugs, the police officer was using a police department approved neck hold, he had a pre existing heart condition, the fact the prosecution didn't want to call the person who was in a car with the victim moments before the incident as a witness, which by the way is allegedly his drug dealer. These are just a few points.
As a doctor, I can tell you that "preexisting heart condition" is a fake issue generated by the defense to downplay the effects that Chauvin had on Floyd and the idea that Chauvin was using a department approved neck restraint is completely false. You seem to be an info bubble with a lot of disinformation, no offense.
False
source: his own training officer and his chief of police both testified that what he did was not part of their approved training
Try again
Then the minnesota police department banned something which didn't exist after the George Floyd case.