“Moron, can’t count, don’t confuse him, can’t even spell, talking shit, he’s a child, let’s ignore him
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Online personas are toxic as ever.
”Online personas are toxic as ever.
Has the cult of Rashford become more important than the player?
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The other poster is lying about how many goals he scored and saying Dan James is going to have a better Euros so I’m not surprised he’s getting a bit of grief when he’s arguing in bad faith.“Moron, can’t count, don’t confuse him, can’t even spell, talking shit, he’s a child, let’s ignore him
Online personas are toxic as ever.
In terms of toxicity, nearly every post I’ve seen from you on this forum is excessively negative, which doesn’t really contribute to making the forum a less toxic place.
Exactly, someone posts how his goals (non penalty) aren't enough or not good enough in the last 2 seasons in PL. When I post the stats to show he is 7th in Goals + Assists in PL since last season, someone will moan about stats or even starts with their mental gymnastics with how 7th is not good enough or how him being only one on the list means he isn't a team player or randomly talking about Europa.
fecking hell, we have Greenwood who didn't play in first half of last season and was poor in first half of this season, Martial who went AWOL this season, Bruno who joined in Jan, Cavani who started playing regularly in the second of this season but no, it's Rashford's mistake why they are not in the list
. One of the worst takes on caf and there are some moronic ones.I don't have a problem with Rashford's status in the team being inflated by fans. We as fans live for this type of romanticism and it's a great feeling to have such a humanitarian amongst our players, especially a local lad who came from the academy. I do think it's a problem when that sentiment extends to the manager though and makes him untouchable on the pitch.
On the pitch, my problem with Rashford is that he's always trying to force his way out of a slump with a worldie of a goal or an assist, which leads to him taking on 30 yard shots which ruin our momentum when we're chasing a game or are trying to break the deadlock. Those shots usually lead to a goal kick which takes a minute for a time-wasting goalkeeper and completely stifles our ability to put sustained pressure on opponents. He also can't see when it's not his day and keeps trying to dribble past defenders who repeatedly get the better of him, and that's a very frustrating thing to watch when you know it'll just be like that for the duration of the game since he isn't coming off regardless of injury status or actual in-game performance because "he can always pull something special out of his sleeve".
On the pitch, my problem with Rashford is that he's always trying to force his way out of a slump with a worldie of a goal or an assist, which leads to him taking on 30 yard shots which ruin our momentum when we're chasing a game or are trying to break the deadlock. Those shots usually lead to a goal kick which takes a minute for a time-wasting goalkeeper and completely stifles our ability to put sustained pressure on opponents. He also can't see when it's not his day and keeps trying to dribble past defenders who repeatedly get the better of him, and that's a very frustrating thing to watch when you know it'll just be like that for the duration of the game since he isn't coming off regardless of injury status or actual in-game performance because "he can always pull something special out of his sleeve".
Exactly.
When people start making up things to discredit one of our players then they'll get grief and rightly so.
Btw after reading your post, I just checked the post history and it's actually ridiculously toxic. The cheek of calling other people toxic!
So to make it clear, Rashford shouldn't be involved in his community and doing so is a PR move that targets fools like @KM and @roonster09?
This is the point I want to make too. No way if SAF was the manager, his decision making would have been this selfish and poor. As for his off the field activities it's exactly as you said. He would have put an immediate stop to it. No Obama calls etc.
“Moron, can’t count, don’t confuse him, can’t even spell, talking shit, he’s a child, let’s ignore him
Online personas are toxic as ever.
Thanks @Posh Red, you made it easier.
Ironic stw2022 moaning about toxic (for one reason you poined out), Ali Dia called me and KM fools but no that's not toxic because Ali Dia is arguing same points as stw, shows the fake moral outrage
To be fair if SAF was the manager, then he wouldn't have been overplayed to this extent and would have been managed injury wise a lot better.
Not sure SAF would've stopped his off the field activities btw. It's a lot different than Beckham! Fergie was a proud socialist.
He goes through spells of working hard and not but overall I think people overrate attackers putting in a shift defensively. If someone is banging in a goal and game and running the show creating chances no one cares if he doesn’t run around like a demon defensively. It becomes much more of an issue when they shit the bed in their actual role in the attack and then proceed to mail it in off the ball.
7th for g/a in the team that came secondThanks @Posh Red, you made it easier.
Ironic stw2022 moaning about toxic (for one reason you poined out), Ali Dia called me and KM fools but no that's not toxic because Ali Dia is arguing same points as stw, shows the fake moral outrage
amazing. We are so lucky. Thanks for constantly reminding us. Mark my words James will have more effective euros. Come back to me after it happens. Just like i said we’d bomb if we continued to rely on Rashford and it came to pass but you guys are taking some supposed moral high ground. Good on you
Exactly, paid posters by Rashford's PR team
Was that the bottom on the list? Did you learn that there comes a scary number after 7, that is called as 8?
Good that you know there is a number called 7, thought you are stuck with 1.
Again, my post in reply to @KM couldn't have been more spot on when I read your posts.
Exactly, someone posts how his goals (non penalty) aren't enough or not good enough in the last 2 seasons in PL. When I post the stats to show he is 7th in Goals + Assists in PL since last season, someone will moan about stats or even starts with their mental gymnastics with how 7th is not good enough or how him being only one on the list means he isn't a team player or randomly talking about Europa.
fecking hell, we have Greenwood who didn't play in first half of last season and was poor in first half of this season, Martial who went AWOL this season, Bruno who joined in Jan, Cavani who started playing regularly in the second of this season but no, it's Rashford's mistake why they are not in the list
Why do people talk absolute nonsense when there is easily accessible evidence of their nonsense, here is what SAF think about Rashford's off the field activities.
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He would have because it's effecting his football. SAF doesn't like outside activities. To him it's only Manchester United and Manchester United only.
Was he the manager of Manchester United when that happened?
SAF the retiree and the manager of Manchester United are two different people. It's obvious that he is not going to slate him in public now. As a manager he was different.
Of course it's obvious that he isn't going to slate him now or ever when he supports that kind of actions. Just stop talking nonsense.
Christ.
How are you so sure it's affecting his football?
I mean how much time does the things Rashford does outside of football take from him? do we know if Rashford is neglecting his responsibilities as a player? is he skipping training sessions? does he turn up late? i mean what's this all about when posters say he should focus on football & stop whatever he is doing outside of it
Sir Alex is a massive socialist and hates the Tories he'd have been all for what Rashford is doing
And also those that feign concern about his form and say he shouldn''t be trying to feed starving kids as it distracts him don't hide their true colours/motives as well as they think.
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Your constant fanboy posts are just as tedious, pretending to be some kind of super fan. At least I’m being honest with myself and I don’t have to bend the stats and take the piss out of posters to make a point. Still it’ll be handy to have someone to laugh at while his awesome performances continue….
Most reasonable posters can finally call it for what it is. Underwhelming
it's not like he traveled to US to meet Obama, it was a video call ffs
My personal opinion is he should just concentrate on football for the time being and try and play himself back into form.
My gut instinct is Ferguson, he were still manager, would not be happy with him as well.
My gut instinct is Ferguson, he were still manager, would not be happy with him as well.
Even if he traveled to the US, it would change nothing. That's a few hours out of several thousands. Also it's not as if athletes are or should focus on football 24/7 having other interests and goals is important for their mental health and general happiness.
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7bn people in the world mate, only 2 were ahead of him getting on the scoresheet in the final.
I don't get the under rating of Rashford by some posters here. The kid is fantastic, I would kill to have at my club.
He's played with injury problems pretty much since he did his back at the beginning of last year and of course it has hit his form but there have still been some fantastic moments, like his hat trick off the bench against Leipzig for example.
The kid has huge potential, whether he will realise it or not no one knows, but he seems like sensible lad and knows how to get his head down. I think the biggest thing for him is learning to simplify his game when he's going through a bad patch of form, but apart from that he is a wonderful footballer and a local lad to boot.
As for his off the pitch activities, good on him, he's changed government policy for the better twice and he's only 23. As for those who say SAF wouldn't have put up with it, how do you know? I see far too many people using the line "SAF would have etc etc" to back up there arguments with no idea whatsoever.
Rashford is a great asset to your club, you're lucky to have him.
He's played with injury problems pretty much since he did his back at the beginning of last year and of course it has hit his form but there have still been some fantastic moments, like his hat trick off the bench against Leipzig for example.
The kid has huge potential, whether he will realise it or not no one knows, but he seems like sensible lad and knows how to get his head down. I think the biggest thing for him is learning to simplify his game when he's going through a bad patch of form, but apart from that he is a wonderful footballer and a local lad to boot.
As for his off the pitch activities, good on him, he's changed government policy for the better twice and he's only 23. As for those who say SAF wouldn't have put up with it, how do you know? I see far too many people using the line "SAF would have etc etc" to back up there arguments with no idea whatsoever.
Rashford is a great asset to your club, you're lucky to have him.
I don't see him in that Rooney/Ronaldo/Van Persie/Van Nistelrooy level, and the truth is as much as fans are saying he's regressed, he was never really on his way there to begin with. If you gave us a front 4 full of Rashford quality players, I don't think we'll win the league, with Bruno/Cavani, you can say that, and that's the standard we need for at least 75 percent of our starting 11. I don't think Rashford is better than Sterling or has a better ceiling either. I don't think he's achieved as much either, yet he's treated like the future of Man Utd and compared with Mbappe whilst Sterling, who's of a similar age and talent level is barely discussed.
It's the United factor and the fact that when we were really poor in terms of attacking talent, he stood head and shoulders above the rest. It speaks more to the lack of quality we had before. He's a good player, but I see him in the Mahrez/Sterling/Damien Duff/ Joe Cole realm. A player who can start regularly, but can also be used in rotation. An x factor that can destroy teams on his day and in given situations, but shouldn't be relied on for consistent quality.
It's the United factor and the fact that when we were really poor in terms of attacking talent, he stood head and shoulders above the rest. It speaks more to the lack of quality we had before. He's a good player, but I see him in the Mahrez/Sterling/Damien Duff/ Joe Cole realm. A player who can start regularly, but can also be used in rotation. An x factor that can destroy teams on his day and in given situations, but shouldn't be relied on for consistent quality.
Like I said, perfect example. Poster who don't see why the stats was posted.
Reasonable poster
So poster who can't read, can't count, liar and what else?
And he isn't toxic as expected
There are actually people here who prefers Welbeck over Rashford? 
Exactly, at least its sort of understandable when people moaned about players' off field activities when they opened their fashion brands and all that (IMO even that's wrong, people can do whatever they can. It's their career and they are not bound by football fans imagination on how to be perfect player) but it's hard to understand why anyone would have problem with what Rashford did. fecking hell, he is making sure there are millions of kids who are fed daily and he is playing even when he is injured.
We have gone full circle, only thing missing is, Rashford, championship player and how he won't start for any PL team.There are actually people here who prefers Welbeck over Rashford?
I can guarantee you that Rashford spends less time on his political activities than Bruno does on his wife and two children.
If you want to start imposing arbitrary rules on extracurriculars, start with banning players from having families.
He’s not that young though. He’s 24 soon and he’s had an incredible amount of first team football. At which point will it be reasonable to expect consistency? 400 games? 600?
If he wasn’t from the academy not a single person would be making this argument.
He’s of a similar age Fernandes, Mata, Herrera, Poga were when they signed. Some slightly younger, others slightly older but that’s the age bracket he’s in now. If any of those came with the same level of performance a Rashford we’d be raging
If he wasn’t from the academy not a single person would be making this argument.
He’s of a similar age Fernandes, Mata, Herrera, Poga were when they signed. Some slightly younger, others slightly older but that’s the age bracket he’s in now. If any of those came with the same level of performance a Rashford we’d be raging
This is my opinion. Let’s be honest without Rashford we wouldn’t be anywhere near 2nd. He’s one of the best U24 players in the world. Facts.
That's exactly what I had in mind, reading some you would think that footballers with kids do not spend hours taking care of them.
Here's my question for you. How much responsibility should we ideally put on him. On wednesday and much of the season, we consistently look to Bruno and sometimes Cavani to produce most of our chances and magic. At this point in his career, we should also be consistently looking to Rashford based on his reputation, but in reality, I don't think most fans believe he will produce anything. Personally, I have more hope in 19 year old Greenwood to produce than Rashford, both creatively and scoring-wise; I think most of the forum feel the same way and that's pretty damning for a guy compared to Mbappe by the press.