you are fecking tiresome. I gave You an example of why it shouldn't be broadcast because children will be watching.
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Yeah, the news. Usually not live and in the middle of a football match. I turned off pretty sharpish. Disappointed to hear they filmed closeups of a potentially dying man tbh.
That is a different wider point, but tbf I don't believe in censorship and pretending really life events aren't happening.
And yeah I don't see why adults can't just turn off their tv if there's something on they don't like.
People watched on because they wanted to know he was okay. Didn't need to see CPR being enacted and his wife distraught for that.
Do people just argue for the sake of it on here now. It's gone mental.
People could get the update on his condition from various source without watching on. It's just typical that people watch it then moan after that it's wrong it was broadcast.
They all share a responsibility...The people behind the camera are well aware of what's going on, there's no reason whatsoever to film or broadcast those images.
Also, i have no fecking idea what you're actually on about, your comparisons are so far fetched that i'm not entirely sure where to start. Essentially, your conclusion is that the world is a shit place where horrible images are generally shown, so there's nothing wrong with filming or broadcasting to the world, with all the families watching the euros, a fecking family event, that a player is lying on the pitch, maybe dead, while receiving CPR, then with trying to save him with the defibrillator, then showing his missus in tears not knowing if her husband is still alive....Brilliant....
Half a brain and they pan out so that it's impossible to see anything apart from a crowd on the pitch.
One silver lining is that watching it has probably prompted lots of people to Google how to perform CPR, which might save some random people's lives that otherwise might have died.
per chance, have you had the Pfizer vaccine? I read there’s a small chance that that can cause inflammation of the heart.
I hope to feck no one try's to perform CPR via google advice.
Won't do any harm if a person's heart has stopped already. Doing it wrong is better than not doing anything.
It’s UEFA who provide the broadcast. Every station worldwide would have had the same pictures. BBC could and should have cut to the studio earlier, but they can’t be blamed for them showing his wife etc.
The Twitter outrage half an hour after it happened, before we knew if he was even ok, was pathetic. Talk about priorities. Some people’s lie with being annoyed on the internet, clearly.
In a live or die situation I’d rather have someone try than someone do nothing. Even if it’s an amateur solely acting off of things they learned on google.
Really weird thing to get into an argument about, fair to say when I tune into the euros I don’t expect to be watching a dying man on my tv screen? And for it to be filmed and watched on the TV.
If 1 is true, how can 2 also be true?
I'm liking this positive take on the situation.
I think if you are in that situation, its not all about what you know its about having confidence in what you are doing. The fact Kjaer knew about clearing the air way was probably as important if not more so, than performing the CPR, no point in CPR if the person is choking to death.
Because they cannot control where the director pans the camera & the game had not been suspended when she was on the pitch.
This also has to do with respect for the player. He's a human being after all and has a right to not be filmed while fighting death.
Look, if you find yourself in a situation of being the only one around to help, I really do hope you will go on YouTube and just follow the instructions there while trying.
It's not rocket surgery. And breaking a few ribs because your technique is off is vastly preferable to the alternative.
You realise you can Google CPR and get information on courses that teach it too, right? No need for the “smart” response.
That’s in addition to the points already made.
Children should be acquainted rather keep it off. Learn sooner than never.
What is Google advice exactly? Googling cpr would likely lead to a top result of the NHS or similar, and an infographic of correct methodology.
Id prefer to have CPR properly explained in schools, even if you google it you are totally unaware if what you are reading is correct.
CPR is for when the heart has stopped. Choking is a different matter. You tilt the head back before starting CPR anyway, which naturally makes the tongue be clear of the airway.
Actually i hope many people try that. Were not talking about medical staff here, but about the first person to spot a cardiac arrest, whoever that is
I think the world is great.
I don't think there's any point pretending bad things don't happen, we should accept the realities of life.
Anyone who doesn't like anything the see on tv should just turn off. I don't believe in censorship.
It's their job to film what they're told to film.
The fault lies with the producer and editor, not the cameraman.
As a 34 year old I think I’m more likely to get my advice from google than from school.
If you are choking on your tongue it has to be physically removed (not an easy task), which reportedly is what Kjaer did.
I felt better after seeing the pics of him conscious. Felt horrible before that. Understandable to still feel a bit shaken though.Anyone else feeling hollow/still shaken?
Unbelievably great news that he's okay. I honestly thought for several minutes that I'd seen him die on the pitch. Fecking scary stuff
Why argue over it, it was shown get over yourself, more important things in life, grow up and stop being so childish.
Yeah, I remember having first aid training years ago and asking the teacher "what happens if you push too hard?" and he said "don't worry about it, if their heart has stopped beating, you can't kill them again!". Was brutal but makes sense.
I appreciate what you're saying, but again, its wrong.
There's tens of cameras recording different stuff in a stadium. It's the editors and producers who actually choose which camera's contents are shown to you at a given time.
It's the same situation in say, an car accident report. The camera person on scene will capture everything he comes across. The news editor will actually only show you what's appropriate enough.
I'm not aware that he was choking on his tongue. Looked like he just collapsed.
Google is school for adults. This is known.
I’m pretty sure that’s not exactly recommended and could cause more damage than helping.
Can you please stop spreading false information regarding CPR?
1) Tilting the head is enough
2) it's not even necessary at the beginning for cardiorespiratory arrest since compressions are the priority and mouth to mouth should not be performed unless you can do it without stopping compression for too long.
3) You don't choke if you don't breathe
There's ONE priority : compressions
Are you telling me they can’t cut it if they need to? I think it’s more likely that the directors didn’t have a protocol to follow?