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Did you just get back from an Applebee’s?
No, I was on youtube and listening an interview that he had earlier this year with Pat McAfee and then watched him deal with a football mom. Last week I was rewatching him telling Rodgers that he would get some blitzes and smash him. :lol:
 

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Big day tomorrow, if anything is going to happen with Rodgers you’d expect to hear more this week.
 

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Big day tomorrow, if anything is going to happen with Rodgers you’d expect to hear more this week.
I’d say that’s more the case for Julio Jones news, which could drop any time now.

The Rodgers, and Watson, sagas will be in limbo until the end of the summer at least, in my humble opinion. Right now it seems like they are daring him to retire for a year and pay them back the ~$30M he’d owe them.
 

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I’d say that’s more the case for Julio Jones news, which could drop any time now.

The Rodgers, and Watson, sagas will be in limbo until the end of the summer at least, in my humble opinion. Right now it seems like they are daring him to retire for a year and pay them back the ~$30M he’d owe them.
Perhaps. I’d be shocked to hear anything on Watson but I’m hoping we get some kind of movement on Rodgers.
 

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Julio goes from the best WR duo in the league to the best WR duo in the league and both times it isn’t even close.
 

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Julio goes from the best WR duo in the league to the best WR duo in the league and both times it isn’t even close.
Is it and was it? Jefferson and Thielen are the best duo in the league, Diggs and Thielen were the best duo previously.
 

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Is it and was it? Jefferson and Thielen are the best duo in the league, Diggs and Thielen were the best duo previously.
Nah, Diggs never unlocked his potential at the Vikings and was just a "good" receiver used as a deep threat. Ridley's stats were on the same level (and better on a per game basis) than Jefferson's last season, while Julio literally shits all over Thielen. Thielen is very good, Julio is first ballot HOF.

As from this season it comes down to AJ Brown vs Thielen (AJ Brown) and Julio vs Jefferson (Julio). Even if you switch it up, Brown is as good (better imo) than Jefferson and Julio again shits all over Thielen.

It's fine if you disagree but you're clearly a huge Minnesota homer :D so don't think many people would agree with you (but I could be wrong too, I just rate Julio incredibly high and think AJ Brown is great too).
 

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Nah, Diggs never unlocked his potential at the Vikings and was just a "good" receiver used as a deep threat. Ridley's stats were on the same level (and better on a per game basis) than Jefferson's last season, while Julio literally shits all over Thielen. Thielen is very good, Julio is first ballot HOF.

As from this season it comes down to AJ Brown vs Thielen (AJ Brown) and Julio vs Jefferson (Julio). Even if you switch it up, Brown is as good (better imo) than Jefferson and Julio again shits all over Thielen.

It's fine if you disagree but you're clearly a huge Minnesota homer :D so don't think many people would agree with you (but I could be wrong too, I just rate Julio incredibly high and think AJ Brown is great too).
The issue is that you rate Jones incredibly high and aren't judging what he is today. Just an example PFF's final wide receiver ranking after the regular season had both Thielen and Jefferson in the top 10, Jefferson was 2nd and Thielen 6th while Jones was 9th and Ridley 15th; AJ Brown was third.

Even if I agreed with you that Jones and Ridley were the best duo, it wouldn't be by some distance but a highly debateable point and the same applies to AJ Brown and Jones.

Also Godwin and Evans aren't far either.
 

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As a Jets fan, just want to jump and say how excited I am for the new season. Not a usual feeling and I feel some of our draft picks outside of Wilson will really shine!
 

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As a Jets fan, just want to jump and say how excited I am for the new season. Not a usual feeling and I feel some of our draft picks outside of Wilson will really shine!
Adding AVT to Becton gives you 2 fantastic pieces to build your OL, and I think Elijah Moore will be one of the steals of the draft even if he primarily plays out of the slot.

I’m more optimistic on the Jets’ odds for success in the near to mid-term than the team next to them at the top of the draft in Jacksonville.
 

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A lot of that will simply depend on how Lawrence and Wilson get off to their NFL careers, although I definitely agree that the Jags could've done way better with e.g. appointing Meyer and drafting Etienne in the second round.

I know nobody cares about someone else's fantasy team but I got Wilson in the second round of our rookie dynasty draft (after Lawrence, Fields and Lance were already gone) so am gonna root for him as well.
 

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A lot of that will simply depend on how Lawrence and Wilson get off to their NFL careers, although I definitely agree that the Jags could've done way better with e.g. appointing Meyer and drafting Etienne in the second round.

I know nobody cares about someone else's fantasy team but I got Wilson in the second round of our rookie dynasty draft (after Lawrence, Fields and Lance were already gone) so am gonna root for him as well.
First round, they went out of their way to draft him in the first round!
 
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First round, they went out of their way to draft him the first round!
Even though they already had a good young RB on a cheap contract. And then they started working Etienne at WR, even though they have a guy that was born to play a WR/RB gadget role in Shenault.

It was a shambles even aside from the Tebow nonsense.
 

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Even though they already had a good young RB on a cheap contract. And then they started working Etienne at WR, even though they have a guy that was born to play a WR/RB gadget role in Shenault.

It was a shambles even aside from the Tebow nonsense.
In a podcast that I follow one of the guest made the good point that they were building the squad as if they were a college team(100+ players) with no care of roster balance or cap management.
 

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Why does it look like he's already limping :mad:
 

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Adding AVT to Becton gives you 2 fantastic pieces to build your OL, and I think Elijah Moore will be one of the steals of the draft even if he primarily plays out of the slot.

I’m more optimistic on the Jets’ odds for success in the near to mid-term than the team next to them at the top of the draft in Jacksonville.
I am here for Moore tbh, guy looks legit a star in the making I think with him, Mims and Davis will be really explosive. I expect Crowder to leave, hopefully, we can use the cap space to add some more talent. The OL has been made of paper for a while, AVT and Becton (if he can stay fit) looks solid, add in Carl Lawson and potentially signing Moses and this is a lot stronger.
 

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I'm seeing NFL people on twitter creaming themselves over this Jones trade for the Titans and how it makes them contenders. I don't really get that, their offense was not their cause for concern, they have been bad defensively for years. He's been a part of exactly the same kind of team in Atlanta, without any success the last couple of years. He's 32, and coming off an injury ridden season. It's a fun trade, but not really a game changer for me.
 

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I'm seeing NFL people on twitter creaming themselves over this Jones trade for the Titans and how it makes them contenders. I don't really get that, their offense was not their cause for concern, they have been bad defensively for years. He's been a part of exactly the same kind of team in Atlanta, without any success the last couple of years. He's 32, and coming off an injury ridden season. It's a fun trade, but not really a game changer for me.
They’re not even in the second tier of the AFC. It goes KC then Buffalo, Baltimore, and the Browns; then a bunch of teams with no chance this year.
 

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I'm seeing NFL people on twitter creaming themselves over this Jones trade for the Titans and how it makes them contenders. I don't really get that, their offense was not their cause for concern, they have been bad defensively for years. He's been a part of exactly the same kind of team in Atlanta, without any success the last couple of years. He's 32, and coming off an injury ridden season. It's a fun trade, but not really a game changer for me.
You never know with the Titans. Jones, however is clearly on the downward slope of his career and its highly unlikely he's going to produce like the JJ of 2015 again. If they get 90 receptions out of him then it will be considered a massive win for the Titans.
 

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Deshaun might well be the wildcard in all this, despite Aaron garnering all the headlines. If they settle and it doesn’t move to criminal court then who knows what might be on the cards. I know I said it wouldn’t happen in Denver after Kelly was hired but I’m often wrong.

@Rado_N I don’t know anything about a cheese room, but I can only guess maybe their chile con queso was a bit shit.
 

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@Rado_N I don’t know anything about a cheese room, but I can only guess maybe their chile con queso was a bit shit.
It was a reference to Glaston and his over the top bigging up of the Spurs stadium, apologies.

I really can’t see the Watson situation going away, and certainly not quickly enough for him to be a viable trade target for anyone this year. Don’t get me wrong I’m not naive enough to think a team wouldn’t ignore it all if he can find a settlement, I just don’t see 22 cases disappearing.
 

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I really can’t see the Watson situation going away, and certainly not quickly enough for him to be a viable trade target for anyone this year. Don’t get me wrong I’m not naive enough to think a team wouldn’t ignore it all if he can find a settlement, I just don’t see 22 cases disappearing.
They can disappear sooner rather than later and be only a 4-6 game Big Ben suspension, if the lawyerly talking head types are to be believed.

Like with the Packers’ situation there’s just no telling, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s playing again before Rodgers is.
 

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And there are rumors about Sheldon Richardson. Zimmer didn't like having a bad defense.
 
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And there are rumors about Sheldon Richardson. Zimmer didn't like having a bad defense.
With 17 games and A-Rod doing who knows what, the Vikes might be a good bet on the over for wins. I would have also included the Texans there but they’re no longer at 3 wins it seems.

*standard disclaimer: take NFL betting advice from me at your own peril*
 
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