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We should not let him go if we don’t have a replacement lined up. Inconsistent performances aside, it weakens us significantly if he leaves.
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If we can replace him. That's the big issue right now. Our finances are not that great and we have already spent huge amount on Sancho. We would have some fixed amortization amount each season after player acquisition and sales and I hope we have enough for atleast the players we need.This shows we wont miss him too much on field, we will lose some commercial revenue though
If we replace one of McT/Fred with a quality player like Saul/Goretzka i think that will restore balance in the midfield and we might win more matches, I like Pogba but his leaving could help us
He doesn’t come across as the brightest in fairness.Thanks. Well that was a dumb comment to make.
The same convo happens every transfer window. Expectations raised, then nothing happens. Then someone says just wait till the transfer window ends...and nothing happens. If you have been following our efforts in transfer windows in the past you will see that we are following on a similar path. Including the bringing in of players to strengthen in non-priority areas. So far the same ole same ole. And our season starts in just three weeks time.Hyperbole and you have no idea whether or not they've got someone lined up. Every day there's a new link to a CM or DM. There's still another month of window to go yet. Don't understand the need for drama when we're making good signings and have other big signings lined up.
He's a hard one to fathom isn't he, because all of his peers apparently love him and yet on (in terms of tactical awareness) and off the pitch he really does come across as a fecking idiotHe doesn’t come across as the brightest in fairness.
The improvement in the right wing position is the gap between Greenwood and Sancho. That gap isn't massive... and it doesn't make us title contenders. Our weakest area of the pitch is central midfield and it looks like we are losing Pogba. We have known this. If and when he goes, and it is highly likely, we will be replacing downwards as it stands. And then we have McTominay and Fred. That is not a honours-challenging midfield. But we strengthen our forward line, which is where we are at our strongest. If that makes sense.. Then this £$£!"$!£"TWRWEFQWERQWEREWFD makes sense.What a poor take. United have lacked an RW since forever, it has been our most important position to find for years. We are clearly also looking for a CB.
We don’t need a DM (as much as I want one) because we don’t play in a setup that requires one as a stand alone.
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He is on record as saying he would never play for them as well.
Used to that with Neymar and Mbappe though aren't theyPSG fans know exactly what they will be getting that's why. From the sublime to the ridiculous from game to game. No consistency from him.
Strange thing to say considering how noisy we have been in the market this year.Sell him and get a replacement. Unfortunately I don't trust the Glazers to reinvest and replace him.
Yep — and I’d say our midfield without Pogba is weaker than our attack was without Lukaku. In other words, I trusted Martial/Rashford/Greenwood more than I trust McFred and beeky.We did the same with Lukaku.
That's the issue I have with Pogba leaving, we'd need to spend considerably more on a worthy replacement than we can get for him. It's true that he doesn't really fit, but without him, we lack quality and creativity in the middle.
Best case, although not very likely, would be keeping Pogba for the season and replacing him with free agent Goretzka next season.
Yeah they already have two big time Charlies. They don't want a third.Used to that with Neymar and Mbappe though aren't they
Not a strange thing to say after over 15 years of Glazer ownership.Strange thing to say considering how noisy we have been in the market this year.
Sure some of it will need to come to fruition, but there’s a lot more positive noise coming out this year than previous
I agree with you to a point. Pogba is a creator and draws defenders. He can be a match winner. I am on the fence. I can see that losing Pogba is not the end of the world. But it looks bad to lose your best players. The best teams don't lose their best players. I have been on hear berrating Pogba's lack of loyalty. I won't shed too many tears if he goes. But we HAVE to replace him. Because our midfield stinks to high heaven compared to your Chelseas, Citys and Liverpools as it stands, let alone when losing Pogba. You could, in theory, bring back Lingard, and if he is the player that played for West Ham, that might be good. But my theory there is that he was able to concentrate on his football in London because he away for the distractions he has further north. I would not put all my money on Lingard carrying on his West Ham form. But I would have him in my squad every day of the week. My concern is that resorting to Lingard is another last resort option that United since Sir Alex left have been very good at.Agreed on most of what you said except the Pogba part.
Yeah he's talented but imo him leaving is in fact a bless in disguise for us.
First, we don't have that fat fecker and his circus around anymore. Pogba won't renew so having him around only make things worse for the dressing room. And it's not like he or the fat fecker or his circus don't have a big mouth anyway.
Second, if we manage to sell him we'd have more money for our transfer budget and considerably free up our wages bill.
Finally, he can't defend well enough to play as a midfielder, he's not effective as Bruno as an attacking midfielder, he's not fast enough to dislodge Rashford on the left.
His best place will be on the bench and some occasional minutes here and there, for all that money and noises. Plus Bruno and Sancho will need a lot of possession to be effective. You add Pogba to that and you'd have a huge balance issue if you'd try to play the three together. I don't mind him being here, we'll have more options and a good sub but it's just too expensive and troublesome.
Yep incredibly strong looking team. Bet they still don't win the UCL thoughDonnarumma (Navas)
Marquinhos — Ramos — Kinpembe
Hakimi — Wijnaldum — Verratti — Pogba — Bernat
Neymar — Mbappe (Di Maria)
That’s potentially the strongest PSG side in god knows how long. Neymar will finally get some of the supporting cast he deserves.
Agree re: VdB, the notion he was suddenly ‘kick on’ because we’ll be forced to play him more is true RedCaf mental gymnastics.Balance is important but so is quality. We are never going to win major honours with midfielders of the standard of Fred, Mctominay, VDB and Neves. If we're selling Pogba we really need to add someone properly gifted on the ball.
Also VDB is laughably bad and has to prove himself to be good enough for us let alone a qualiry player for us
I’ve answered my point elsewhere but no slander was meant, let’s forget Ince.Which United fans didn’t miss Butt? Great attitude and solid CM.
Ince was not missed however!
We have players who can play on the right. Sancho actually is equally as effective if you have seen him on the left. This isn't a debate over whether Sancho is a super player. As said earlier if you compare Greenwood to Sancho in that position what is the gap? And is that gap big enough to make any difference. In other words, how big an improvement to the side does his arrival herald? I would argue it is not a big difference. And that the priority improvements are needed elsewhere and I would say midfield especially and that is without Pogba leaving. City won the league without what is called 'a striker' so go figure.We were strong at right wing despite having no right wingers?
Difference in theory should be huge as far as chance creation/assists.We have players who can play on the right. Sancho actually is equally as effective if you have seen him on the left. This isn't a debate over whether Sancho is a super player. As said earlier if you compare Greenwood to Sancho in that position what is the gap? And is that gap big enough to make any difference. In other words, how big an improvement to the side does his arrival herald? I would argue it is not a big difference. And that the priority improvements are needed elsewhere and I would say midfield especially and that is without Pogba leaving. City won the league without what is called 'a striker' so go figure.
Definitely not — because we are.Yep incredibly strong looking team. Bet they still don't win the UCL though
Yeah but teams are far more than that. Pogba does more than the stats would reveal, otherwise McTominay is a better midfielder because he scored more goals than him last season from a defensive midfield position. But I don't know why I am defending Pogba he has been poison in the past and last season he had to turn something on because he was injured, and wanted to play for France and needed to put himself in the shop window if he wants to leave. Not a fan of the prima donna side of his game. And he probably is overrated. But even I recognise a Pogba fully committed is a beautiful thing to watchDifference in theory should be huge as far as chance creation/assists.
Good post. Not like the shite from the Daily Mail posted after yours.This fecking "Bruno vs Pogba" bullshit again. Are you not tired?
If Pogba does not sign the contract, then he does not want to play for United. Plain and simple.
Stop s*cking his d*ck. It's pathetic.
This club lost Staam, Beckham, Keane etc, top-top players and legends who, unlike Pogba, performed consistently and did not allow their agents to disrespect the club.
I liked Pogba since his academy days at the club, but if he does not want to be here, let him go. Good riddance.
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You are on fire! Good points; highlight was Fat Toad RaiolaPogba can do unbelievable things on the ball, his long-range passing and technique on the ball are phenomenal. But football and elite football at that is so much more. Liverpool walked the league with three midfielders who, combined have less innate, on-the-ball talent than Pogba. He loses the ball far too often and you feel whatever goodness he does at one end, he will undo at the other. I don't ever want to see a good player go but we've let much, MUCH better players go than him when it hasn't worked.
He reminds me of Veron, who was an incredible player. Technique, vision, passing, dribbling, just an utter joy to watch. Yet, didn't fit the team, didn't fit rugged, early 2000's Premier League football, didn't have the desired effect of making us a better team. Even happy to sell him on to an upcoming rival!
With Paul, it will be a shame to see him go but he has won a few trophies here and given us some good performances. But it's obvious that with his fat toad of an agent in his ear, he is swayed to go to the farmers league - imagine, at this stage in your career making a move where the only positive is your agent gets €40m?! There he can spray passes under zero pressure to Neymar and have three other players running for him, while he completes a highlight reel for YT and goes viral once a week for the TikTok generation.
At 28, choosing PSG is a career downturn and embarrassment if I am being brutally honest. It actually tells you everything your need to know about Paul Pogba. Best of luck to him, I'd much rather he stays but if we get £50m plus for him - take it, improve the squad and move on.
I thought your talking about how much of an improvement Sancho is over Greenwood on the right?Yeah but teams are far more than that. Pogba does more than the stats would reveal, otherwise McTominay is a better midfielder because he scored more goals than him last season from a defensive midfield position. But I don't know why I am defending Pogba he has been poison in the past and last season he had to turn something on because he was injured, and wanted to play for France and needed to put himself in the shop window if he wants to leave. Not a fan of the prima donna side of his game. And he probably is overrated. But even I recognise a Pogba fully committed is a beautiful thing to watch
So happy to lose him for free then?We should not let him go if we don’t have a replacement lined up. Inconsistent performances aside, it weakens us significantly if he leaves.
He probably wouldnt unless sick of ligue 1 and nobody caring when they win it. Just an example of sort of player that would be way better for us that pogbaWhy would Verratti have any interest in coming here?
We would do well to get Paredes out of Pogba moving to PSG. Early last season I thought he would have been a good signing to give the option of a natural playmaking no.6 in the squad as he couldn't get into the team, but Pochettino came in and gave him more game time. Wijnaldum and Pogba don't play his position but Paredes could still see his chances significantly reduced as a result of their signings. He is a good passer and made a difference to PSG's play with too much of the same from Herrera, Gueye and Danilo Pereira prior to Pochettino's arrival - would be a good signing.
Reading this, you couldn’t see football more d differently to me.The improvement in the right wing position is the gap between Greenwood and Sancho. That gap isn't massive... and it doesn't make us title contenders. Our weakest area of the pitch is central midfield and it looks like we are losing Pogba. We have known this. If and when he goes, and it is highly likely, we will be replacing downwards as it stands. And then we have McTominay and Fred. That is not a honours-challenging midfield. But we strengthen our forward line, which is where we are at our strongest. If that makes sense.. Then this £$£!"$!£"TWRWEFQWERQWEREWFD makes sense.
This is strategic chess, maybe. Fat Toad 3d-style summer madness chess. Do PSG even want him? Maybe United want rid of him? Mini beats his drum. Plenty of smoke and mirrors, I’d suspect. One day this will end in PogTears, I predictIf he's not willing to sign an extension that is 350k p/w then he needs to be sold simple as that
He doesn’t come across as the brightest in fairness.
Oh.bum the quotes got all buggered up.He's a hard one to fathom isn't he, because all of his peers apparently love him and yet on (in terms of tacticmight not like some of the manipulation that goes on off field but he certainly knows what he's doing.
Right wing was by far the biggest hole in the squad and has been the highest priority everyone should be able to recognise that. Sancho is a far better winger than Greenwood who is quite obviously a striker (and a young one at that) just doing a job out there.We have players who can play on the right. Sancho actually is equally as effective if you have seen him on the left. This isn't a debate over whether Sancho is a super player. As said earlier if you compare Greenwood to Sancho in that position what is the gap? And is that gap big enough to make any difference. In other words, how big an improvement to the side does his arrival herald? I would argue it is not a big difference. And that the priority improvements are needed elsewhere and I would say midfield especially and that is without Pogba leaving. City won the league without what is called 'a striker' so go figure.