To be fair, although Ramos has had a phenomenal career he's now at the end of his career. Right now Maguire is the better player. He was brilliant at the euros and is now one of the best CB's in world football. I would take Maguire over Ramos now as well.
We’re actually class on paper
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Pity a team even better than us is about to add Kane and Grealish
Agree with this. Midfield is a weak spot. We don't have balanced one. We have very good defense and attack, if we can sign one great CM, that will help this team a lot. Right now it's average.
That's not true at all. He created most chances in PL and IIRC in top 5 leagues. You don't do that by being invisible.
We are getting there. The squad building aspect has been very good over the last 2-3 years.
This thread should be renamed @Pexbo vs the world.
I think we clearly look very solid side now, with only City being clear favorites, otherwise we have just as good a squad as Liverpool and Chelsea and clearly have a better first 11/squad then Arsenal and Spurs. In fact throughout Europe only PSG & Bayern have a first 11 man to man which is superior to us, I would be confident to get a win against Real, Barca & Atletico Madrid as they are mostly top heavy with weak defense as compared to us.
The biggest problem is our manager is not as good as our competitors, with Pep, Klopp & Tuchel all being far better than him, which would result in them having clear advantage. You give this first 11 to any Pep/Klopp/Tuchel and he will surely win the league.
DDG
AWB Varane Maguire Shaw
Mctominay Pogba
Sancho Bruno Rashford
Cavani
With very good squad options such as Greenwood, Fred, Martial, Telles, Matic, Lindelof & Henderson etc. I could not even fit Mata, Amad, James, Bailly & Elanga on the bench.
The biggest problem is our manager is not as good as our competitors, with Pep, Klopp & Tuchel all being far better than him, which would result in them having clear advantage. You give this first 11 to any Pep/Klopp/Tuchel and he will surely win the league.
DDG
AWB Varane Maguire Shaw
Mctominay Pogba
Sancho Bruno Rashford
Cavani
With very good squad options such as Greenwood, Fred, Martial, Telles, Matic, Lindelof & Henderson etc. I could not even fit Mata, Amad, James, Bailly & Elanga on the bench.
That's the spirit...
Yeah, I don’t think anyone’s claiming that Ole is in the Pep, Tuchel, Klopp class
World class on paper but on the field not so much.
Also Verratti is a better player than Pogba and as much as I dislike Neymar he’s better than Bruno
Also Verratti is a better player than Pogba and as much as I dislike Neymar he’s better than Bruno
Why is Verrati better than Paul? Hes too injury prone to be close to Pogba.
——————De Gea——————
AWB—Varane-Maguire-Shaw
———McTominay-Fred————
Sancho——-Bruno—-Rashford
——————-Cavani——————-
Assuming we make no more signings, this is probably our strongest 11, and the one we’re most likely to see next season. There’s still obvious deficiencies in midfield, at right back and down the left in my opinion. Striker will also need looking at next summer. So might the goalkeeping situation. There’s still a lot to do imo.
AWB—Varane-Maguire-Shaw
———McTominay-Fred————
Sancho——-Bruno—-Rashford
——————-Cavani——————-
Assuming we make no more signings, this is probably our strongest 11, and the one we’re most likely to see next season. There’s still obvious deficiencies in midfield, at right back and down the left in my opinion. Striker will also need looking at next summer. So might the goalkeeping situation. There’s still a lot to do imo.
I think we'll be seeing more of Henderson than De Gea. The only real issue I see with the above side is McFred. Sort that out, sign a Cavani replacement next summer if Greenwood isn't ready and make a judgement on whether Henderson has been good enough. This time next year the rebuild should be pretty much complete.
Yeah next summer should be CF, CM, and whatever other position we’ve realised is suddenly a priority over the course of the season. Henderson deserves the chance to nail down the number one spot, but it wouldn’t surprise me to see Ole rotate them.
Midfield is where I'm skeptical. We've got a lot of quality in all other areas. McFred is too weak in the middle
While that's fair Wan Bissaka is not mere but physique but arguably the best one on one defender in the game right now
We’re a DM and striker away from being one of the best squads in football - with some very talented youngsters to add to that squad over the next few years. The issue is the squad that’s better than us plays in our league and has one of the greatest ever managers in charge whilst being bankrolled by an entire state so without that DM and striker it’s very difficult for us to win the league. There’s every chance when Mbappe sods off from France that the 3 best squads around will all be in England.
Of all the players to question, you choose the player who is largely responsible for us finishing in second place. In the same way his influence helped us to finish 3rd the season before. Nobody else has been able to carry the burden of being the main attacking outlet except him, but he's still not good enough.
Jesus Christ.
We should sell him and stick with Pereira then. I'm sure he'll generate a pass success over 85%. Backwards, that is.
Where is Dean Henderson, Pogba and Martial?
For heavens sake men, where in earth do you see me pondering these kinds of statement? Please either learn how to inteprete words correctly or to step aside your bias of what yóu thínk í mean to say.
I also state below! Nowhere have I said he's not good enough for United, nowhere am I stating he isnt on of our best players, nowhere am I saying I am doubting he should be our #10. All Im saying is that I feel he hasnt done enough in the biggest of matched to earn himself a place in the discussion in the top10 players of the world right now..
If you actually read in stead of getting blinded with annoyance after 1 sentence and getting black before your eyes, you would have also read the following I said:
Depends on the team I guess.. I think for now Ramos is thé perfect player for PSG. They already have all the quality in the world to win the UCL, but somehow they are always bottling it in the end.. They could really use that kind of relentless leadership and mentality to win it all which Ramos provides.. They need that more than another world class defender next to Marquinos or Kimpembe like Maguire (even though he might be an upgrade to (one of) the latter. If you are a team with a fixed hierarchy on the top level and mentality to win prizes, but you are in need of another defender.
Maguire if probably the one to go for above Ramos. Maguire is defintely a leader type on the pitch and he certainly is for United right now, but its different then the leadership prize winning mentality Ramos brings to a whole squad I think.
He's better at dictating play and faster at moving the ball, also far better defensively.
Bayern on paper being better isn't debatable
Since when? Injuries have hampered him and he disappears in big games as well. Pogba has had twice the career that Veratti has had, he really needed to move 2 to 3 years ago to be honest.
Bayern is a perfect example indeed of a team which isnt better on paper, but definitely is on the pitch. Brilliantly managed team, very curious how Nagelsmann will do there..
Since always. How has Pogba had more of a career?
Any team that has McT in is is just bleh its like you have nice looking Ferrari without engine, at least there is no Lindelof in It anymore.
We need to add someone.
We need to add someone.
On paper our team during moyes is the reigning champion
Aging and our competition was improving. Was the end of an era of players for us following probably the weakest PL I have seen. It was always going to be super tough for us.
I somewhat disagree. While the signings of Sancho and Varane are a monumental step forward, we still have a midfield duo that is very, very underwhelming. We have an imperious attack and defence, but it would provide little difference if we keep turning over the ball every time it has to go through midfield(slight exaggeration, but this was a massive problem for us last season).
A new midfielder is a must, irrespective of Pogba.
A new midfielder is a must, irrespective of Pogba.
We have a mid table midfield and cavani can be relied on less in the twilight of his career but mostly on paper we are good
City may have a better squad, but starting XI?
De Gea < Ederson
Wan Bissaka = Walker
Varane = Stones
Maguire = Dias
Shaw > Zinchenko
Fred = Rodri
Pogba = Gundogan
Bruno = De Bruyne
Sancho = Mahrez
Cavani > Jesus
Rashford = Sterling/Foden
Thats what I'd say anyway. When they sign Grealish and possibly Kane or another striker, it could change but even then, I wouldnt say they are better as a starting XI. We've beaten them 3 out of the last 4 league games in the last couple of seasons and on our terms, too.
De Gea < Ederson
Wan Bissaka = Walker
Varane = Stones
Maguire = Dias
Shaw > Zinchenko
Fred = Rodri
Pogba = Gundogan
Bruno = De Bruyne
Sancho = Mahrez
Cavani > Jesus
Rashford = Sterling/Foden
Thats what I'd say anyway. When they sign Grealish and possibly Kane or another striker, it could change but even then, I wouldnt say they are better as a starting XI. We've beaten them 3 out of the last 4 league games in the last couple of seasons and on our terms, too.
Buzzing for the start of the season. Ole and the team are going to make huge strides and improvements - I can taste it so I can, and it tastes delicious. Roll on title challenge and some silverware 
This team is bloody fantastic
This team is bloody fantastic
Why didnt that mid table midfield not finish mid table last season then?
Manager doesn't match the squad. World class squad needs a world class manager. But I agree our team is fantastic, like the old times when our team line up alone scared you.
fixed a few
Probably the usual list of reasons that people give - everyone else was trash, overperformed, lucky etc.
Some fans on here seem upset that we are building a world class team and will have less and less to moan about!
So pumped for next season
So a whole team finishes in the table based only on the quality of the midfield?
Nah, we have a class team all over. An additional RB and another DM would be nice, but with or without, we have a bloody class team.