Thoughts on Emile Smith Rowe (5.5)?
Fantasy Premier League 21/22
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I think I’d still have one of the Brentford duo of Canos or Mbeumo ahead of him just cause it’s Arsenal. Also if they get Odegaard he is going to be rotated.
Where’d you get that from?
Thought he was just subbed at HT (lots of subs, friendly)?
Arsenal is surely more capable than Brentford? Do agree re Odegaard.
Chances of Brandon Williams going out on loan to a PL club to get regular gamete? If he does he would be a goos cheap defender option.
I think Brentford are more attacking. I won’t be surprised if they pull a Leeds this year. Leeds has lesser “talent” than Arsenal did but were the better attacking team.
Leeds won 18 games and scored 62 goals. Brentford won’t get anywhere near that.
Took a knock playing against my boys Luton, it was because of a dumb move from Burn.
But he was hauled off at half time along with other players so it could just be precautionary.
Wins maybe not. But I think they are entertaining and they can score 45-50 goals this season.
Alright boys thanks for making me realize the obvious.. latest draft..
Ederson (Foster)
TAA Fofana Shaw Digne (Manquilo)
Salah Gundogan Bruno James (Bissouma)
Watkins Antonio (Obafemi)
Bench still kinda weak but I feel like I make some changes on the way after GW1.. I really wanted Greenwood in there in place of James but if he starts off the bench then I’m done.. I’m going to risk James for GW1 and see what role he plays.. Richarlison & Siggy are out so James has to play a pivotal role alongside DCL
Anybody taking ESR from Arsenal.. wait a bit.. I want him too but if you want a strong start then you have to wait to bring in punts like him..
That's a much better team.
I'm starting with him if they don't sign Odegaard or someone else. Been given the number 10 shirt, great end to last year and nailed atm. If he starts well everybody will have him in by the Norwich game.
What's with the Buendia love?
They also have Gallas number 10 so I wouldn't put too much stock into that
Assist machine, has previous EPL experience, had a great championship season last year, in a much better team and is a cheap enabler. That's the kind of punt I'm ok with.
TouchéThey also have Gallas number 10 so I wouldn't put too much stock into that
Can someone help me with this thoughts I'm having?
From my times playing this game I'm seeing the consensus that most people like to use 343.
But I've been wondering why no more people using 442, because for me I prefer to spend money on 4th defender than 3rd attacker.
I'll try to compare between the popular 7.0-7.5m Forward and 5.5-6.0m Defender and their historical point from past seasons
Forwards
Wood - 138/136/131pts
Adams - 137pts
Wilson - 134/116/168pts
Richarlison - 123/165/153/125pts (Playing as mid before last season)
Antonio - 118/11/118pts
Iheanacho - 110pts
Watkins - 168pts
Jimenez - 43/194/181pts (Injured last season)
Defenders
AWB - 144/127/120 pts
Maguire - 124/123/92/117 pts
Shaw - 124 pts (seems to always injured the seasons before so only got little minutes)
Dias - 142pts
Cancelo - 138 pts
Digne - 120/120/158 pts
Azpi - 113/130/158/175/170/124/132/109/100 pts (I think the most consistent one)
Chilwell - 139/114/118 pts
As you can see, I think generally both will get similar 120-140pts. Even though FWD have much higher ceiling, but I think not many will have season like Bamford, Watkins, or Jimenez debut where they exceed our expectation.
So instead getting 7/7.5m FWD and 4.5m DEF, isn't it better to get 5.5/6m DEF+ 4.5m bench fodder FWD?
You can use the extra 1-2 mil for boosting other position. Or even picking TAA/Robertson/Van Dijk who have been getting 160+ points for the past 3 seasons.
I think the downside of picking the extra defender is you basically only have 2 outfield bench because currently there are no playing 4.5m FWD. But that also be mitigated by upgrading into 5.5m FWD.
From my times playing this game I'm seeing the consensus that most people like to use 343.
But I've been wondering why no more people using 442, because for me I prefer to spend money on 4th defender than 3rd attacker.
I'll try to compare between the popular 7.0-7.5m Forward and 5.5-6.0m Defender and their historical point from past seasons
Forwards
Wood - 138/136/131pts
Adams - 137pts
Wilson - 134/116/168pts
Richarlison - 123/165/153/125pts (Playing as mid before last season)
Antonio - 118/11/118pts
Iheanacho - 110pts
Watkins - 168pts
Jimenez - 43/194/181pts (Injured last season)
Defenders
AWB - 144/127/120 pts
Maguire - 124/123/92/117 pts
Shaw - 124 pts (seems to always injured the seasons before so only got little minutes)
Dias - 142pts
Cancelo - 138 pts
Digne - 120/120/158 pts
Azpi - 113/130/158/175/170/124/132/109/100 pts (I think the most consistent one)
Chilwell - 139/114/118 pts
As you can see, I think generally both will get similar 120-140pts. Even though FWD have much higher ceiling, but I think not many will have season like Bamford, Watkins, or Jimenez debut where they exceed our expectation.
So instead getting 7/7.5m FWD and 4.5m DEF, isn't it better to get 5.5/6m DEF+ 4.5m bench fodder FWD?
You can use the extra 1-2 mil for boosting other position. Or even picking TAA/Robertson/Van Dijk who have been getting 160+ points for the past 3 seasons.
I think the downside of picking the extra defender is you basically only have 2 outfield bench because currently there are no playing 4.5m FWD. But that also be mitigated by upgrading into 5.5m FWD.
Nice and well researched post. To add an average of the forwards you mention (if we take away the very worst 2 seasons (Jimmy's injury season and Antonio's 11 pts season) it is 142 points on average. maybe the range/variance is around 30 pts depending on who you pick, so somewhere between 110 to 170 pts.
For a 4.5 / 5.5 defender to get 110-140 pts is not impossible, i.e one of Burnley's seasons or just say Shaw this season could be possible. For me the most important is they can have a chance each match to either score or keep a clean sheet.
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That actually isn’t a bad idea. I just replaced Toney with Robertson. The latter will our score the former provided they play the full season. My bench was shit to begin with then before the change.
My team… for now.
Bench:
Guaitia
Ayling
Klick
Coady
Ederson
Digne - Cresswell - Dias
Fernandes - Son - Dallas - Souceck
Calvert Lewins - Watkins - Toney
Digne - Cresswell - Dias
Fernandes - Son - Dallas - Souceck
Calvert Lewins - Watkins - Toney
Bench:
Guaitia
Ayling
Klick
Coady
Yup with 5.5 you can easily get starting defender from all the top team (probably bar Man City because of Pep Guardiola is my idol)
But I guess more people prefer to take the riskier option with higher reward by choosing an extra attacker?
Well now your team almost identical to mine
Even though I always hold myself from owning 2 Liverpool defenders, feel so dirty hoping they get a clean sheet every week
Agree. Lot of "you must have 352, 343", pick the team that you think will get the points
Bachman Foster
TAA Robertson Shaw Digne Ayling
Salah Sancho Raphinha Bowen Buendia
Watkins Toney Obafemi
With £1.5m in the bank and absolutely no idea how to use it for now.. I think I will make many changes.
TAA Robertson Shaw Digne Ayling
Salah Sancho Raphinha Bowen Buendia
Watkins Toney Obafemi
With £1.5m in the bank and absolutely no idea how to use it for now.. I think I will make many changes.
Anyone taking a punt on Ziyech? Or should I go to reliable Raphinha?
I would be tempted to make yourself Covid-proof and upgrade Obafemi to Welbeck so you have all starters on your bench!
Will add more value to your squad and give you even more protection from any Covid crisis.
What’s people’s thinking on Joshua King for Watford I’ve thrown him in instead of Pukki, for a gamble..
That bench is still pretty poor isn't it?! Or is it just me?That actually isn’t a bad idea. I just replaced Toney with Robertson. The latter will our score the former provided they play the full season. My bench was shit to begin with then before the change.
For me, you need a playing bench. Even if there are 2 point merchants.
Completely.
And there's some good choices of 4.5m defenders this season too. White, Coady etc.
I think what puts me off the 4 strong defenders route, aside from me always going in with too much money in defence and regretting it, is that those cleanies can go easily. Whereas if you have 3 strikers there's always a chance of a goal or assist.
If you go in with 2 strikers, especially mid value ones, all it takes is for one to have a tough fixture, and the other one to have a bad day, and you suddenly have zero from your whole attack.
I think a different question, is the Liverpool 7m men versus equivalent midfielders. They're big value in that comparison. IF they have a season like 2 seasons ago. Not last year, when conceding almost every game.
I've got him mate, and Deeney.
A double Watford attack!?? You are a brave man
I’ve a feeling he’ll start up front for Watford and be their main man, hopefully he goes on a goal scoring binge to start the season..
So far, I'm on
Sanchez (Foster)
TAA, Shaw, White Coady Fofana
Salah Bruno Grealish Raphina Bissouma
Watkins Antonio Toney
Weighing up a few different directions though
Sanchez (Foster)
TAA, Shaw, White Coady Fofana
Salah Bruno Grealish Raphina Bissouma
Watkins Antonio Toney
Weighing up a few different directions though
- Getting Robertson in as well as TAA
- Binning Grealish off if he goes to City (although an 8m starting at City could be a beast) Options could be Buendia, or Havertz/Mount
- Bruno to Sancho, but who knows if he'll hit the ground running
- Had a draft with Kane, Sancho and Cresswell in there, but a 4.5m forward
One will be on the bench.A double Watford attack!?? You are a brave man
Not bad, although I don't believe in Raphinha or DCL/Digne from the beginning.That actually isn’t a bad idea. I just replaced Toney with Robertson. The latter will our score the former provided they play the full season. My bench was shit to begin with then before the change.
No City players? Going without them entirely?
City almost guarantees you need a quality bench, whereas Liverpool and United are much more reliable when it comes to selections for the league.
City will start the season with Sterling, Bernardo, Mahrez, Foden, Grealish, Ferran, Jesus, Mahrez all competing for those attacking positions.
Even in defence, you slot in Cancelo for the clean sheet at home to Norwich and Pep starts Mendy.
It’s not worth the hassle imo.
Thats actually a decent punt. One should start and it covers yourself for 5.5 mil. Interesting idea!
Definitely not worth the hassle if they got 2 x Mahrez now!
Jokes aside, there'll always be some City player who's worth it. Dias / Gundogan last season, KdB, Aguero in some seasons.
Hearinh Laporte wants away, so tempted by Stones myself.
You see? Massive problems
