It also adds to their argument for the ESL, “we need this to survive” and all that.
Run with it.
Barcelona: Charged with corruption .... again!
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Run with it.
They arent allowed to register any new signings, even if he went for 1 euro a week he wouldnt be allowed to play as I understand it.
2013 I think.
If that’s the case then what sort of clusterfeck are they running down there where they can’t register their best player becuase they’ve been busy signing turds on big contracts.I would be foaming at the mouth if I were a Barca fan.
For every 100m reduced from last season’s salaries, they can add 25m right?
They’ve just released 100m.
How much have they reduced the salaries of the big earners? I know quite a lot of them agreed to reduced pay.
You're speaking for yourself, which is absolutely okay. There's no denying that having to let Messi go will hurt La Liga for a while, but people are acting like it's the end of the world and that spanish football is doomed. Throughout history Spain, especially Real and Barca, have attracted players that either were or on the of way becoming the best in the world. It didn't begin Messi and certainly won't end with him. Even he's probably the best to ever have graced a football pitch.
Holy shit. That's a lot of money to lose in one year.
They’re fecked. Like well and truly fecked.
No wonder they went all in in the super league. It’s getting to the point where their entire existence may be dependent on it…
No wonder they went all in in the super league. It’s getting to the point where their entire existence may be dependent on it…
This isn’t a Fortune 500 company that can recover from this or right it off as a loss. This is a football club
It's been frustrating to read RedCafe over the last year or two. Every turn it's "Messi's contract demands this", "Messi wants that", "Barca are in the hole because of Messi", yadda yadda yadda.
I would be foaming at the mouth if I were a Barca fan.
I've been saying this for ages now, and anyone who follows Barcelona knows it too; that Bartomeu and his recruitment policy has fecked up the team infinitely more than a superstar Messi contract ever could.
Laporta: "Without Messi, the wage bill is 95% compared to the club's income."
Laporta: "Even without Messi we do not have more margin in the salary limit."
Laporta: "The football industry recommends a wage bill between 65% and 70% of the Club's in income. Now, it is 95%. The problem is not only wages but also the very high amortizations."
For those still using this whole fiasco as an excuse to blame Messi and not focus on Bartomau, they'd do well to heed the above quotes. They are still fecked without Messi because of the malpractice in managing the club over a period of Bartomeu's entire reign.
Judging by the interview, Barcelona will have a hard time even registering the new signings without Messi as well.
Maybe someone like Aguero wont be part of the team this season?
Maybe someone like Aguero wont be part of the team this season?
Well, didn’t they take on €700m short-term debt?
Disgraceful.
I don’t think they are, I think this will be good for them.
Well if its true Barcelona are already 1 billion in debt and are going to record close to 500m loses this year I honestly think its time for them to be put in administration or transfer ban until the debt is back under control. They must be made to sell players now or its going to get worse.
They aren't. That's the point. This house of cards is starting to tumble. Next year we'll see headlines about either bankruptcy or someone outright buying Barca. The South American drug cartels don't have their grubby hands on European football, yet. We let everyone else in, we might as well ask some druglords to foot the bill.
Disgraceful.
To my understanding, nor Depay or Aguero can be registered as of now. They'd have to offload a few players first or reduce their salary. But a Barcelona fan can come in and correct me if I'm mistaken.
I would be foaming at the mouth if I were a Barca fan.
Why the feck were they making any new signings given the financial hole they're in?
I don't think people are blaming Messi specifically are they? However, his exorbitant contract in addition to all of the others that Barca have agreed with their players are to blame here. Mis-management of a club and business on a massive scale.
500 million euro loss per year is not good for a football club. Its one thing to lose Messi, its another knowing you're blowing your arse that badly ever year.
We should be in there trying to lure frankie
on a different note what does this mean for their 3 summer signings? Can the players null and void them to go elsewhere?
on a different note what does this mean for their 3 summer signings? Can the players null and void them to go elsewhere?
Where are the Barca fans who think this will be made back? Additionally, I believe it, they had a projected revenue of €1bn for last season and it was rumoured that it was more likely to be €660m which means the €487m is in the right ballpark. He has also seen the audit which is due to be published and admitted that it is way worse than he thought so this would support these figures.
Losing their heads over there, Everything falling apart now
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It looks like Laporta was just waiting around, hoping one day Tebas would ease the restrictions, some plan that.
So they expect €500m+ losses but still sign new players on high wages? And two who play in the same space like Griezmann? I don't get it.
Well it's not like they paid money, I think the idea was sign them and clear a few off the books, so it's techincally a "saving" without diminishing the squad extremely.
Problem is no-one wants to buy their cast offs for high fees and the wages they are on, so now new signings look stupid rather than shrewd, if they'd flogged Griezmann and a few others it would have been a bit better.
Its not like they haven't tried, there just aren't any clubs interested in buying from them now.
By reducing the wage bill as they are being forced to, they will actually make some money to pay off those debts though, rather than making outrageous loses each year and refinancing/loaning up etc.
Long term it’s gonna be good for them.
I find it hard to believe the likes of Pedri wouldn't have suitors.
Clubs just aren't interested in buying the players they want to sell, which is a different thing.
Just as smart as thinking the creation of the ESL would face no backlash and everyone else in Europe would just roll over when Holy Barcelona decides to rip everyone off...
Wait… so the revenue is €500m lower than before, but they didn’t actually finish the year with a loss of €500m.
That is a very big difference.
Sounds like the 500m is ”lost revenue”.
With fans back in stadiums and massively reduced wage bill, this will ultimately be very good for them.
Well I think they're asking for stupid prices or trying back handed swap deals, it's time for a fire sale,
No one is off limits, raise money quick!
The trick to the fire sale is that you still want to be able to at least compete afterwards. Can't just sell half your first team and then fill it up with youngsters from the second team. I mean, maybe you can... I would be interested in the result. Prices are obscene right now, especially for salaries. Those player agents need to be banned from football. Or their payment needs to be capped.
Lets not pretend they offered Messi an obscene contract in a vacuum, he and his team negotitated to get into the fees they agreed to... actually maybe not, given how mental these messages have been, maybe they did just ring him up during contract renewal and be screaming down the phone "Whatever it was before, will double it!!!"
There must be some hyperbole in his statements or there was zero point in being so bullish before hand that they'd be able to resign Messi, a 95% wage to turnover ratio before you account for Messi and amortizations of player purchases is batshit crazy. Like not just "haha, that's doesn't make sense" like utterly unhinged from reality. There was no way it ever made sense.
If you believe the reported Messi wages of 2mil a week, they were spending over a billion a year? They were spending more than City, Liverpool and Us combined?
I guess he’s being clever, it’s surely 95% without Messi compared to Covid revenue which is 500m below expected revenue.
ah so it's 95% of 500m, as they projected 1 Billion for this year without Covid, even still that's like 580m euro in wages.
So if they are not able to register Depay and Aguero, their front line would be Dembele, Griezmann, and Braithwaite??
Interesting times ahead, I know they will try and raise funds by selling one or two players but which of the current squad will actually get them a decent fee? Or is the point solely to reduce the wage bill?
Interesting times ahead, I know they will try and raise funds by selling one or two players but which of the current squad will actually get them a decent fee? Or is the point solely to reduce the wage bill?