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Barcelona: Charged with corruption .... again!
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) was joined by comedian Ali Woods to look back at the best and worst moments of a rollercoaster season with the annual United Hour Awards.
Has Ten Hag been sacked yet? We're not sure and we hope not, but it's looking more likely as the days pass.
Who should replace him and why is it taking so long to make a decision?
Yes, but if I understand correctly, he now specified it more clearly.
He says the financial situation and the 'salary mass' they found was severe (110% of revenue...) and it was impossible to comply with FFP rules going forward. He hoped the league could be "more flexible" but that it's not an excuse, they knew the rules beforehand and other clubs understandably want the rules to be applied evenly. So he takes responsibility as the club there.
Then, if I understood, I think he said there would have been a way to re-sign Messi and get the FFP approval had they accepted the CVC deal (meaning the CVC deal money could have made it possible, not that the league blackmailed them tying the issues together), but he can't in good conscience make a decision that would affect the club for 50 years going forward.
Which are good statements.
He doesn't completely shut the door on a turnaround, but doesn't want to give "false hope" as long as FFP remains "unflexible" as Messi has other offers....
110% of the revenue ? Barca revenue is 700M , so their wages are 770M ???
He talks about the 'post Messi era' starting now, as opposed to in two years as they had hoped.
Explains that the contracts discussed with Messi were always with 2 years in mind - first a 2 year contract paid over 5 years, then as a 5 year contract on paper but with 2 years in mind.
Explains that the contracts discussed with Messi were always with 2 years in mind - first a 2 year contract paid over 5 years, then as a 5 year contract on paper but with 2 years in mind.
No idea what timespan he's refering to, just said that the numbers they (the new presidency) found when they came into the club were much worse than they had thought.
Sensible press conference from Laporta.
Says they needed to make a decision and not 'prolong the agony'.
Says they needed to make a decision and not 'prolong the agony'.
Yeah, but he's still putting pressure on La Liga.
“Pressure” or “blame”, or both.
Yeah, I think Messi is actually gone now.
So in detail: with Messi's contract, the salary mass would have been 110% of revenue, and even without Leo, they are above the salary limit that is allowed by La Liga.
Says they have to free up salary at a rate of 4 times what they want to bring in (not sure if I understood that right, sounds mental).
Says they have to free up salary at a rate of 4 times what they want to bring in (not sure if I understood that right, sounds mental).
I purposely avoided that word, but yeah one could see it that way. Even if he doesn't mince his words concerning the financial situation of the club.
I'm positively surprised in the way he explicitly takes responsibility, as the club, for the FFP non-compliance, says the rules were known and it's due to the 'inheritance' (the previous administrations mismanagement) that they can't comply. He's not actually acting like they were entitled to be let off the hook.
It would be awful if he indeed leaves the club like that, without even a proper send-off.
Would be a farce of a contract anyway, signing for 5 but paid for 2 years and that amount spread over 5 years? feck your creative accounting, either you can or you can't. At least Laporta is more business savvy so they won't go bankrupt, he's probably in shock at how bad everything was from Bartomeu.
You seem emotional too. And you have the other thread for that comparison as well. This thread is about Barcelona being in a perilous state.
Someone posted the CVC conditions yesterday. If I'm not mistaken, Barcelona could only spend a small fraction of that sum on transfers and salary. The vast majority of that amount would have gone towards infrastructures. Given that Barcelona needed to shed GBP 175 M to register their new signings, even the CVC sum wouldn't have been enough.
He isn't wrong to reject the CVC deal regardless of whether he sees it as blackmail because it seems shortsighted. Handing over 11% of all revenues to an investment fund for a short term cash infusion seems utterly and preposterously misguided. That's not even mentioning the fact that Laporta (along with Perez) are still trying to create a superleague project and that the CVC deal would mean extinguishing any chance of a super league.
Tebas tweeting while Laporta is talking, Trump style 
What does it say?Tebas tweeting while Laporta is talking, Trump style
Tebas tweeting while Laporta is talking, Trump style
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Tebas not backing down.
Surely if Messi leaves it is not good for the La Liga profile. Who will want to watch it without him? It could set them back this season until they can sign big names again or produce their own superstar.Tebas tweeting while Laporta is talking, Trump style
google translates it as "Hello @JoanLaportaFCB, you know that the CVC operation does not mortgage the TV rights of @FCB 50 years, what it does is that they have more value for all the clubs and so you can MORTGAGE your BANKS and solve the great debt. you understood hours ago."
He's telling Laporta that the CVC deal doesn't mortgage the TV deal for 50 years but that it adds value to all clubs, and that Laporta better mortgage his banks to pay the debt. Adds that Laporta understood this hours ago.
who watched it before Messi? Kin ell people.
At the same time, how can Tebas back down publically? He would look silly. That's not to mention the fact that he's at odds with the top 2 because they tried the Super League project, and are continuing to attempt to create it.
Laporta: "Last season's losses are 487 million euros. This Season it will be more "
Holy shit , 500M loss ? How is Barca not banned because of FFP
Holy shit , 500M loss ? How is Barca not banned because of FFP
I mean it's unequivocally clear that it is completely inappropriate and unprofessional for any official in a responsible position to be on Twitter like this shooting off on serious issues regarding the area of his stewardship.
Tells you all you need to know about the guy.
Tells you all you need to know about the guy.
The plastics who were following Messi not Barca or la Liga might jump the ship but there are enough people who will still watch it. Or do you think that La Liga started in 2004?
That's too much, it must be a mistake.
He literally said this in his Press Conference
I would just like to see that figure verified. Just like GatoLoco, I'm a little sceptical because that seems too high to be true.
It’s quite hard to watch La Liga now, legally, in England, it’s a separate subscription for instance, which I’m certainly not paying for - why is that?
People will still watch La Liga. Sure, Messi leaving hurts but the financial mismanagement of several teams hurts the league more.
Just look at where the league was when Tebas came in. Half the clubs were on the verge of administration. He has done an excellent job.
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Barcelona are fecked
You're a pretty committed troll, I'll give you that. Lots of projection though.
If he loves them he’ll cave and agree to play for a measly 300k a week.
I think he’s already on blower to PSG.
I think he’s already on blower to PSG.
It's probably dawned on him how fecked La Liga really is.
Great great news all of this
When was this salary cap introduced, I dont recall hearing about it last season. Also, more pertinently, why was it introduced? Surely la liga knew this would screw over the top teams. Star players leaving means la liga is less lucrative for broadcasters
They probably are in cahoots after being butt hurt with the ESL fiasco. Hardly a theory, let's roll with it.
It was introduced because La Liga clubs en masse were headed for bankruptcy.